Discussion 2025: AFL SuperCoach Discussion

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aj74 said:
The problem with that idea is that Houston has to beat Moore to the kick-in.

Usually Darcy is closer to goal and runs over to take the kick and I think we're instructed to play first dibs. So yeah, Darce takes the kick-ins a lot more often than he should, especially considering the lack of tall marking options we tend to have and let's just say... Moore is a much better marking option than kicker-innerer with the result that there's usually a good turnover goal in the offing for the oppo. But still, Darcy's gonna Darcy so Houston is gonna need to get his skates on if he wants those kick ins.

Still.. better than having Bruzzy Maynard trying to kick them in. We all remember that one on ANZAC day I think it was that was so putrid it had everyone in the stadium, including the coach, wetting themselves laughing

The only player we have that would successfully take the ball off those two with his demands for a kick-in would be Nick Daicos, proving to all the haters that he doesn't just get all his stats from handball receives. So there. ;)
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Howe actually takes more kick ins and Josh Daicos started taking some at the end of the year.
 
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freowho said:
Howe actually takes more kick ins and Josh Daicos started taking some at the end of the year.
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Yeah put Howey on the list too. He's had some shocking kick ins. Especially for a guy with such a quality field kick on him.

Word on the street is that Howe might be a fairly decent aerial target too. Maybe even better than Moore so once again, I've no real idea why he's taking kick ins

Edit: who we really need taking kickins is probably Isaac Quaynor. He's a generally straight kick with decent enough vision but gets under them too much, often resulting in a lofted ball when it's in general play.

But with Darcy Cameron's hands getting stickier every year and McStay drifting back as an option, the pack mark thing is well represented now and on top of that, we can have Howe, Houston and Moore going for the high ones. Hoskin Elliott can get up there a bit too if he drifts back. Every once in a while, Elliott or Hill could come down and show them all how it's really done.

So yeah, maybe they should just get IQ kicking his 8 irons out to the 50 and people can come along to watch the boys treating everyone like marking bags. It'd be great to watch.
 
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aj74 said:
The problem with that idea is that Houston has to beat Moore to the kick-in.

Usually Darcy is closer to goal and runs over to take the kick and I think we're instructed to play first dibs. So yeah, Darce takes the kick-ins a lot more often than he should, especially considering the lack of tall marking options we tend to have and let's just say... Moore is a much better marking option than kicker-innerer with the result that there's usually a good turnover goal in the offing for the oppo. But still, Darcy's gonna Darcy so Houston is gonna need to get his skates on if he wants those kick ins.

Still.. better than having Bruzzy Maynard trying to kick them in. We all remember that one on ANZAC day I think it was that was so putrid it had everyone in the stadium, including the coach, wetting themselves laughing

The only player we have that would successfully take the ball off those two with his demands for a kick-in would be Nick Daicos, proving to all the haters that he doesn't just get all his stats from handball receives. So there. ;)
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That is one of my concerns, but just on general vibes really I was hoping that that directive was because there wasn't an outstanding kick-in taker at the pies, so first come first served was the idea. But if Houston is an upgrade, maybe the team plan is changed. As I don't follow Collingwood training sessions, I don't know if this is the case; pre-season will tell. If he's not monopolising kick-ins I will probably move away from Houston though.
 
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freowho said:
Petracca's CBA's, TOG and AF have been declining for 3 years now. Oliver won't get his full fitness back. He should have a better year but I'm not sure he gets back to 110+.
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Ben's Beasts said:
Good discussion on Rivers. Definitely a polarising sort of pick.

What I will say though is that it’s unlikely that Petracca plays anywhere near the sort of midfield minutes that he’s played in recent years. We all know what happened last season and he is yet to join full training yet following the new rib injury sustained this pre-season. He is just such a weapon up forward too.

If I was to guess the starting three in the middle for round 1, it would be Viney, Oliver and Rivers.
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warewolves said:
I think you’re right @Ben’s Beasts I also had that in mind when picking Rivers.
Petracca could well spent most of his time forward early in the season.. that Dees forward line looks a bit shaky and Trac could be needed there way more than he is in the mids
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BIGB0Y said:
Have you got rivers in your team atm?
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Also a fellow melbourne supporter here. Rivers has been in and out of my plans. Currently out and can't see him coming back in. I think Trac will still be the 3rd highest CBA % at the Dees even with a decrease from the past few years. I think the other player expected to get a heap of increased mid minutes is Koz. I can see him, Trac and Langford (or Sparrow) being used in a 3 man forward/mid rotation. I think we're going to end up with a real mix of CBA % after Clarry and Viney. Then when Rivers rest downs back I'm equally wary of how a fit Salem reduces Rivers impact down back with them looking to Salem as the distributor. Rivers is a watch for me in the preseason.
 
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Eagling said:
That is one of my concerns, but just on general vibes really I was hoping that that directive was because there wasn't an outstanding kick-in taker at the pies, so first come first served was the idea. But if Houston is an upgrade, maybe the team plan is changed. As I don't follow Collingwood training sessions, I don't know if this is the case; pre-season will tell. If he's not monopolising kick-ins I will probably move away from Houston though.
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Well... at least one fan based training report from Annabelle over at Hotrods referred to us trying to get the ball into Houston's hands as often as possible, which I guess is what the Power would also have been trying to do.

We've gutted our team of pace, having lost Noble and Richards, with Harrison missing the year with an ACL and the likes of Crisp and Hoskin-Elliott being yet another year older. We'll be relying on kicking to get the ball moving as quickly as possible and Houston seems pretty close to being our best kick already.

If I was coach, I'd be getting Hill up onto the wing too. We are stacked for forwards at and could do with his pace up the ground. Maybe move Sidebottom to forward goalsneak for his last year or so. McCreery has done minutes in the middle and the fans would like to see that continue but he has tank issues and for mine, I reckon he's probably too fumbly to play mid. Keep an eye out for it though. If we decide we need a defensive tackle merchant in the guts, then he's a pretty obvious choice for that role change.
 
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Creeker said:
Have to admit, I'm warming to Trent Rivers.
Talk is of more mid time this year. ;)
The 2 games last year with his most CBA's were.
Round 15. 80% CBA's - Supercoach score - 131 :unsure:
Round 17. 83% CBA's - Supercoach score - 143 :eek:

If it happens to go pear shaped, he's an easy flip to Matty Roberts after his early bye.
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You have to put some context into those 2 games.
They were against North and WC.
They were also 2 of the first 3 games after Petracca got his LTI.
In the 5 games after Petracca got his LTI where Rivers had between 61% and 78% CBA's Rivers averaged 77 SC (Ave 69% CBA's).
 
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Shannon said:
I have been looking at Rivers also, here are the CBA numbers from last year :-

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All his scores from round 15 to 24 :

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The concerns are the round 16 & 22 scores despite getting high CBA numbers - seem to recall he had a lot of clangers in the round 22 game v Port, not sure what happened round 16.
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I'm struggling to see the upside here with Trac and Clark back to dominate CBA's. Rivers only managed 90 odd with both pretty much out of the picture late last year.
 
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Toothless Tigers said:
After numerous changes, lots cursing Round 3 and 12, wailing and gnashing of teeth at what to do with the Rucks, I have finally settled on this until Round 0 barring injuries.

Balance - $16,100
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Hey man. Not sure how serious this plan is but a question nevertheless... I see you went for Berry over SPP. Is that just a placeholder thing or do you prefer Berry and if so, why?

Edit: Nevermind. I thought this was Connoisuer's full midfield team from earlier and was wondering what insights he might have had on the two Port players
 
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mwross91 said:
Also a fellow melbourne supporter here. Rivers has been in and out of my plans. Currently out and can't see him coming back in. I think Trac will still be the 3rd highest CBA % at the Dees even with a decrease from the past few years. I think the other player expected to get a heap of increased mid minutes is Koz. I can see him, Trac and Langford (or Sparrow) being used in a 3 man forward/mid rotation. I think we're going to end up with a real mix of CBA % after Clarry and Viney. Then when Rivers rest downs back I'm equally wary of how a fit Salem reduces Rivers impact down back with them looking to Salem as the distributor. Rivers is a watch for me in the preseason.
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Any idea how Oliver is tracking? Need to get that average back above 100 to be worth it.
 
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Under The Dome said:
He put up his current team on Swordplay with only Bont and Xerri above 600k and doesn't look at mid season byes. He only carried 5 players through the season that played with Livingstone as the 6th.
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Extremely interesting side/structure and listen to his reasonings.

Only 4 players between $ 500-600k & 5 onfield rookies
 
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