How unlucky have you been?
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Off the top of my head:
Hurn. 7pts+ a trade
Sammy Mitchell. 9pts + a trade
Trading out Langdon before he went on to score 90, 128, 118.
Ryder injuring himself for 36pts, then out for 3 rounds.
Traded to Hampson who this last round got the red vest and 31pts himself.
Picking T Mitchell to begin with, who then rewards with two vest-worthy scores, hurts himself and then needs trading.
Trading him in to Zorko who then gives a wonderful sub-50 score display.
Roughead. Poor pick.
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Hurn. 7pts+ a trade
Sammy Mitchell. 9pts + a trade
Trading out Langdon before he went on to score 90, 128, 118.
Ryder injuring himself for 36pts, then out for 3 rounds.
Traded to Hampson who this last round got the red vest and 31pts himself.
Picking T Mitchell to begin with, who then rewards with two vest-worthy scores, hurts himself and then needs trading.
Trading him in to Zorko who then gives a wonderful sub-50 score display.
Roughead. Poor pick.
Me preparing my own team.
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They are both bad luck, although I got Sammy Mitchell and although it is still bad luck he got injured it also a risk picking him at start of season knowing his age and these types of things happens more to players of his age group. Annoyed with myself for picking both Pavlich and Sammy Mitchell. I think we push our luck when we pick too many older players. Thankfully Pavlich has stayed on the park but I probably should taken just one of them in my squad.
Not sure you can class this bad luck really.
We all know rookies are a bit unpredictable so when you trade any out you got to be fairly confident they are done making the cash you expect.
Rather than be bad luck on your part it really is just a speculative move that did not work for you. Bad luck really is something out of our control like injuries to our players at wrong time. A trade gone bad because someone scored well after you traded them is not bad luck unless it was Jaensch!!!
I consider myself a little lucky Langdon made more cash than what I expected but as a DEF/MID that had already showed he could score over 100 you needed to be sure you were not trading him out too early.
Certainly bad luck there.
The boat on Hampson sailed in first or second round for mine. Trading to get him recently kind of chasing something and likely to not pay dividends.
It is bad luck but I did not consider him need trading because you lose a lot of cash by doing so and importantly if he came back within a week or three there was reason to believe he could repay the patience. However, he's now been out too long so can understand feeling you need to trade if you consider your season can still be a winner without him.
I got Zorko earlier when Dixon had to be traded. Unfortunately he got a big hit by Lynch that week and last week got sick so the bad luck is really with the poor guy himself having two games of really bad scores because he really was out there when not really well enough to be his normal dynamo self.
Tough for all of us that own him through that period but those trading him out now because of those two games I think are making a mistake.
Not sure you can class this bad luck really.
We all know rookies are a bit unpredictable so when you trade any out you got to be fairly confident they are done making the cash you expect.
Rather than be bad luck on your part it really is just a speculative move that did not work for you. Bad luck really is something out of our control like injuries to our players at wrong time. A trade gone bad because someone scored well after you traded them is not bad luck unless it was Jaensch!!!
I consider myself a little lucky Langdon made more cash than what I expected but as a DEF/MID that had already showed he could score over 100 you needed to be sure you were not trading him out too early.
Certainly bad luck there.
The boat on Hampson sailed in first or second round for mine. Trading to get him recently kind of chasing something and likely to not pay dividends.
It is bad luck but I did not consider him need trading because you lose a lot of cash by doing so and importantly if he came back within a week or three there was reason to believe he could repay the patience. However, he's now been out too long so can understand feeling you need to trade if you consider your season can still be a winner without him.
I got Zorko earlier when Dixon had to be traded. Unfortunately he got a big hit by Lynch that week and last week got sick so the bad luck is really with the poor guy himself having two games of really bad scores because he really was out there when not really well enough to be his normal dynamo self.
Tough for all of us that own him through that period but those trading him out now because of those two games I think are making a mistake.
I don't mind injuries to players late on in matches or named outs on Thursday, that's where depth and durabiltiy history are crucial, but trading players in for them to get injured and late withdrawals are the killer.
I think anyone who picked Deledio (probably no-one but still) has the best stake to claim in this thread.
For me, trading Mitchell > Hurn before Hurn played Melbourne was the killer. Tried to make up points and was rewarded with a 7 and a forced trade (on top of trading Mitchell!).
I'm also devastated that I went Acres over Cameron (I had Cameron locked in but went safe) but I think that's probably a little less luck related. Stings though!
I think anyone who picked Deledio (probably no-one but still) has the best stake to claim in this thread.
For me, trading Mitchell > Hurn before Hurn played Melbourne was the killer. Tried to make up points and was rewarded with a 7 and a forced trade (on top of trading Mitchell!).
I'm also devastated that I went Acres over Cameron (I had Cameron locked in but went safe) but I think that's probably a little less luck related. Stings though!
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Just so I can remember not to do these next year:
Trading Mitchell out RD2, then trading Mitchell back in RD5 then back out again RD8.
Trading out JKH for gImpey. JKH looked like not getting any game time and gImpey has been starting every week.
Picking Daisy - CFC got rid of him for a reason.
You could blame luck but really just some poor emotional choices. There is no room for emotion in SC.
Trading Mitchell out RD2, then trading Mitchell back in RD5 then back out again RD8.
Trading out JKH for gImpey. JKH looked like not getting any game time and gImpey has been starting every week.
Picking Daisy - CFC got rid of him for a reason.
You could blame luck but really just some poor emotional choices. There is no room for emotion in SC.
"I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it." Thomas Jefferson
I take a few new lessons from the previous in to every new year. Last year I traded some under performers too early and held some under performers too long. I also spent top dollar on getting new premos and missed some bargains later on. I went too early on a couple of mr right now average new rookies and missed some of the great ones. I didn't really plan for the byes!
I also got hung up on those 50/50s I got wrong.
So this year I researched the hell out of my starting team and read pretty well everything on here and didn't pick nearly as many under performing mid pricers and got my rookies pretty well spot on.
I traded Tom Mitchell when he stopped being injured and just became dropped (held just one week)
I held rookies like Langdon and Tyson after bad scores because they had tonned up nicely in the past and culled the consistently average ones
I'm waiting for the really good rookies and have only brought them in time for their 3rd games
I waited/am waiting till the new premos had had a decent discount before bringing them in.
I used the bye planner properly.
My point is I managed my luck with a few basic rules and plenty of research and when the real bad luck happens I'll have the cash, trades and a strategy to deal with it.
Having my best year easily but I've been too conservative to win it unless the 850 people in front of me all cop some extreme actual bad luck and I pull a Bradbury with my almost finished team and 17 trades left
I will definitely be a leagues beast!
My other point is **** does happen and it's the way you deal with it that matters.
I take a few new lessons from the previous in to every new year. Last year I traded some under performers too early and held some under performers too long. I also spent top dollar on getting new premos and missed some bargains later on. I went too early on a couple of mr right now average new rookies and missed some of the great ones. I didn't really plan for the byes!
I also got hung up on those 50/50s I got wrong.
So this year I researched the hell out of my starting team and read pretty well everything on here and didn't pick nearly as many under performing mid pricers and got my rookies pretty well spot on.
I traded Tom Mitchell when he stopped being injured and just became dropped (held just one week)
I held rookies like Langdon and Tyson after bad scores because they had tonned up nicely in the past and culled the consistently average ones
I'm waiting for the really good rookies and have only brought them in time for their 3rd games
I waited/am waiting till the new premos had had a decent discount before bringing them in.
I used the bye planner properly.
My point is I managed my luck with a few basic rules and plenty of research and when the real bad luck happens I'll have the cash, trades and a strategy to deal with it.
Having my best year easily but I've been too conservative to win it unless the 850 people in front of me all cop some extreme actual bad luck and I pull a Bradbury with my almost finished team and 17 trades left
I will definitely be a leagues beast!
My other point is **** does happen and it's the way you deal with it that matters.
"I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work, the more I have of it." Thomas Jefferson
I take a few new lessons from the previous in to every new year. Last year I traded some under performers too early and held some under performers too long. I also spent top dollar on getting new premos and missed some bargains later on. I went too early on a couple of mr right now average new rookies and missed some of the great ones. I didn't really plan for the byes!
I also got hung up on those 50/50s I got wrong.
So this year I researched the hell out of my starting team and read pretty well everything on here and didn't pick nearly as many under performing mid pricers and got my rookies pretty well spot on.
I traded Tom Mitchell when he stopped being injured and just became dropped (held just one week)
I held rookies like Langdon and Tyson after bad scores because they had tonned up nicely in the past and culled the consistently average ones
I'm waiting for the really good rookies and have only brought them in time for their 3rd games
I waited/am waiting till the new premos had had a decent discount before bringing them in.
I used the bye planner properly.
My point is I managed my luck with a few basic rules and plenty of research and when the real bad luck happens I'll have the cash, trades and a strategy to deal with it.
Having my best year easily but I've been too conservative to win it unless the 850 people in front of me all cop some extreme actual bad luck and I pull a Bradbury with my almost finished team and 17 trades left
I will definitely be a leagues beast!
My other point is **** does happen and it's the way you deal with it that matters.
I take a few new lessons from the previous in to every new year. Last year I traded some under performers too early and held some under performers too long. I also spent top dollar on getting new premos and missed some bargains later on. I went too early on a couple of mr right now average new rookies and missed some of the great ones. I didn't really plan for the byes!
I also got hung up on those 50/50s I got wrong.
So this year I researched the hell out of my starting team and read pretty well everything on here and didn't pick nearly as many under performing mid pricers and got my rookies pretty well spot on.
I traded Tom Mitchell when he stopped being injured and just became dropped (held just one week)
I held rookies like Langdon and Tyson after bad scores because they had tonned up nicely in the past and culled the consistently average ones
I'm waiting for the really good rookies and have only brought them in time for their 3rd games
I waited/am waiting till the new premos had had a decent discount before bringing them in.
I used the bye planner properly.
My point is I managed my luck with a few basic rules and plenty of research and when the real bad luck happens I'll have the cash, trades and a strategy to deal with it.
Having my best year easily but I've been too conservative to win it unless the 850 people in front of me all cop some extreme actual bad luck and I pull a Bradbury with my almost finished team and 17 trades left
I will definitely be a leagues beast!
My other point is **** does happen and it's the way you deal with it that matters.
I traded Langdon before he went bang because I thought his previous ton was the outlier. Kept Tyson and Dunstan, Tyson bounced back, Dunstan didn't. Those are all choices not the product of bad luck.
The bad luck is injuries and as others have pointed out, if you pick injury prone players (for me see Rioli, Cyril). Admittedly I only brought Rioli in because Walters got injured. I consider the Walters injury unlucky because he had a good injury history and the injury he got (dislocated tendon) I don't recall having even heard of before.
The Mitchell injury is one each way, not a long injury issue but getting older.
Most of the ones that hurt are just selection choices. Walters (not sure if the bad play Rd 1 and 2 was injury related or not), Roughy and Dusty up forward (Pavlich has been dicey but cheaper than those), Enright down back.
Otherwise I am actually pretty happy, no Higgins down forward has hurt and not getting on Swallow and KK down back are the other two. I was never taking Higgins so have to live with it. If not for the Walters injury might have got Swallow before Rd 3 but no guarantees. Have to back your choices and move on.
No Murphy (took JPK) looked dicey early but JPK has come back strong.
Walters is my only real bit of bad luck and maybe Roughy getting himself suspended in the bye rounds.
I've heard impromptu say a few times and I think it might of been in reference to chewy -
make a mistake
acknowledge the mistake
fix it
and move on
tom Mitchell has been tough to digest and I held until rd 8 - however I started with JPK and since titch has been out he has gone big! so I kinda call it evens.
josh caddy is probably on never again lost tho!
make a mistake
acknowledge the mistake
fix it
and move on
tom Mitchell has been tough to digest and I held until rd 8 - however I started with JPK and since titch has been out he has gone big! so I kinda call it evens.
josh caddy is probably on never again lost tho!
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Dale Thomas was a mistake I made so moved him on after a few rounds and he did not look like making profit for me which was my aim and get some decent scores. Unfortunately another mid-pricer I brought in for a little less funds was making money for me until bad luck getting injured again and forced to trade out when had him Frankin, Tom Mitchell and McCarthy all not playing at same time in my forward line. Having to trade to get out of trouble is no fun when you want to be building your team up and you know there is bound to be people up in front pack missing all the trouble and doing pro-active trades whilst you in damage control yourself.
Edit: Just saw I forget to mention the other mid-pricer was Fasolo, but essentially expensive cash cow that circumstances of other forward keepers meant he needed to be traded as opposed to them. He was so helpful whilst he lasted but damn his foot problems mucking up a really good thing.
Edit: Just saw I forget to mention the other mid-pricer was Fasolo, but essentially expensive cash cow that circumstances of other forward keepers meant he needed to be traded as opposed to them. He was so helpful whilst he lasted but damn his foot problems mucking up a really good thing.
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My sook:
I will never take a 30+ yo player again, with the exception of Ablett and maybe longstanding elite ruckmen (eg. Cox).
2 old farts have caused a lot of headaches this season, S Mitchell and Chappy.
R2: S Mitchell => Hanley - to avoid a donut, and I suspected that Mitchell would be out for a few weeks. Mitchell back in R3 and dominated, Hanley injured in R4 and then missed 2 games, scored poorly because of injury niggles, and has lost about $100k. Actually considered D Swallow instead of Hanley during R2 as well =(
R4: Chapman late WD Sunday afternoon, copped a donut as Hale was already covering for Hickey injury.
R6: Traded S Mitchell back in as he was dominating. Mitchell injured in R7 for 9 points, and lost $55k.
Chapman and Roughead suspended during the byes has hurt as well.
Got hit with X Ellis 2 points, however most people got hit so not so bad luck on that front.
Nevermind - onwards and upwards for the rest of the season!
I will never take a 30+ yo player again, with the exception of Ablett and maybe longstanding elite ruckmen (eg. Cox).
2 old farts have caused a lot of headaches this season, S Mitchell and Chappy.
R2: S Mitchell => Hanley - to avoid a donut, and I suspected that Mitchell would be out for a few weeks. Mitchell back in R3 and dominated, Hanley injured in R4 and then missed 2 games, scored poorly because of injury niggles, and has lost about $100k. Actually considered D Swallow instead of Hanley during R2 as well =(
R4: Chapman late WD Sunday afternoon, copped a donut as Hale was already covering for Hickey injury.
R6: Traded S Mitchell back in as he was dominating. Mitchell injured in R7 for 9 points, and lost $55k.
Chapman and Roughead suspended during the byes has hurt as well.
Got hit with X Ellis 2 points, however most people got hit so not so bad luck on that front.
Nevermind - onwards and upwards for the rest of the season!
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I've had a relatively small number of incidents of bad luck but each one has been quite punishing.
- Picking Grimes over Swallow, with their bye weeks being the decisive factor. If they had opposite bye rounds I would have been 100% certain to go Swallow. Bad decision and definitely my fault but the gap between them looking at their previous scoring history as been ridiculous.
- Had Jacobs most of pre-season but decided that 22 games at 100-105 ave probably wasn't enough because of the 110 ave rucks in 2013. The unlucky part was I went Ryder because TBC was injured and thought he could ave 110 and then he got an injury 30pt score in round 2. Then I got in Mumford for one great score before he was a late out and I had to trade him. So two completely wasted trades and some points lost because I didn't pick Jacobs.
- Those two lost trades meant I didn't make two last round (have 6 left). I was going to bring Sidebottom in as I thought nobody else would have him so he could have been a huge pod. Then he goes and scores a 170!
- Jack Martin's 9 in round 1 and Ryder's 30. Q4 injuries would have scored me about 100pts extra.
- R14 Murphy late out = Grimes 47. If this happened the next week instead I would have got Grimes' 112, so 65 extra points. Those extra points are entirely luck based.
- Picking Grimes over Swallow, with their bye weeks being the decisive factor. If they had opposite bye rounds I would have been 100% certain to go Swallow. Bad decision and definitely my fault but the gap between them looking at their previous scoring history as been ridiculous.
- Had Jacobs most of pre-season but decided that 22 games at 100-105 ave probably wasn't enough because of the 110 ave rucks in 2013. The unlucky part was I went Ryder because TBC was injured and thought he could ave 110 and then he got an injury 30pt score in round 2. Then I got in Mumford for one great score before he was a late out and I had to trade him. So two completely wasted trades and some points lost because I didn't pick Jacobs.
- Those two lost trades meant I didn't make two last round (have 6 left). I was going to bring Sidebottom in as I thought nobody else would have him so he could have been a huge pod. Then he goes and scores a 170!
- Jack Martin's 9 in round 1 and Ryder's 30. Q4 injuries would have scored me about 100pts extra.
- R14 Murphy late out = Grimes 47. If this happened the next week instead I would have got Grimes' 112, so 65 extra points. Those extra points are entirely luck based.
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Have copped and forced to trade out:
Rd3: Hurn (7 + injury) , Michie (omitted)
Rd4: Hickey (injury) , BMartin (omitted)
Rd5: TMitchell (injury/omitted)
Rd6: MThomas (injury), Xellis (injury, but avoided the 2)
Rd7: SMitchell (9 + injury)
Rd9: Grimes (terrible form)
Rd12: Watson (injury), SGray (omitted)
... And am holding Cutler, Hartung and CCameron with a lack of trades..
Not sure how this stacks up in terms of luck, but a few of these have really hurt my trade bank. Round 12 especially!
Rd3: Hurn (7 + injury) , Michie (omitted)
Rd4: Hickey (injury) , BMartin (omitted)
Rd5: TMitchell (injury/omitted)
Rd6: MThomas (injury), Xellis (injury, but avoided the 2)
Rd7: SMitchell (9 + injury)
Rd9: Grimes (terrible form)
Rd12: Watson (injury), SGray (omitted)
... And am holding Cutler, Hartung and CCameron with a lack of trades..
Not sure how this stacks up in terms of luck, but a few of these have really hurt my trade bank. Round 12 especially!
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From what I noticed most of other recent winners only had 1 or two keepers get long term injuries in season.
You've had Sam Mitchell, Hurn, Watson and Tom Mitchell. Although Watson and Sam Mitchell most of others would have had too which probably explains why those 4 keepers injured and out of team has not hurt as much as it would if there were more unique players. Hurn would have hurt a bit because less would have had him.
Doing bloody well by my reckoning to be right in the mix. Explains why you got a few less trades than some others in top ten rankers. Hopefully you get some luck in last 8 rounds and have no more trades to use for injuries. Although I like your cover in general if you can use the last few trades well for linking up well.
Good luck. Hopefully you or aps1 take the whole thing out but so many rounds to go, you need some luck on side too.
You've had Sam Mitchell, Hurn, Watson and Tom Mitchell. Although Watson and Sam Mitchell most of others would have had too which probably explains why those 4 keepers injured and out of team has not hurt as much as it would if there were more unique players. Hurn would have hurt a bit because less would have had him.
Doing bloody well by my reckoning to be right in the mix. Explains why you got a few less trades than some others in top ten rankers. Hopefully you get some luck in last 8 rounds and have no more trades to use for injuries. Although I like your cover in general if you can use the last few trades well for linking up well.
Good luck. Hopefully you or aps1 take the whole thing out but so many rounds to go, you need some luck on side too.