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The reason why Faulkner was not playing is so that he and Starc could get some red ball practice incase needed for the first test, so they are playing Shield cricket.

A reason as to why Smith may not have been picked for the first ODI (and it wasn't documented a lot) was that a couple of days ago Johnson hit I'm on the hand in the nets at the WACA, and possibly could have done a little damage. I think they might have thought from that that he gets a quick rest, but now he'll slot straight back in to where Clarke won't be.
Cool, thanks for updates on why Faulkner and Smith may not have been in side. Clearly you been following the cricket news closer than some of us. I also just found out in last 24 hours there was some shield matches played under lights with pink ball. Interesting experiment. I wonder if they trialled a Test with night session how late it would go.
Day's play 3-30 pm to 10-30 pm ? and night session 8-30 pm to 10-30 pm ?

I remember yonks ago when first started watching cricket channel 9 had Supertests on at night.
They played for 4 days and not 5 days. So each day was 7 and half hours of actual play. It allowed them to have last session be three and a half hours under lights. Probably something like 7 pm to 10-30 pm. If they did it that way I think first and second session go the usual two hour sessions and play start at 2pm each day. I'm not expecting them to really do it in Tests but interesting they even trialling night game with Shield cricket right now.
 
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Sounds like Adelaide going to be the first venue to hold a day/night Test match.


article posted below

Adelaide Oval to host day-night Test match between Australia, New Zealand
RICHARD EARLE ADELAIDENOW NOVEMBER 14, 2014 9:11PM

ADELAIDE will win the right to host cricket’s historic day-night Test between Australia and New Zealand as the traditional format prepares to take the pink-ball plunge next November.

The Advertiser can reveal final day-night Sheffield Shield trials last week alleviated concerns over the durability of pink kookaburra balls.


Secret Cricket Australia research has also dispelled the theory pink balls can’t be detected by colour blind players such as Test opener Chris Rogers.

CA has been in dialogue with New Zealand for 12 months to stage a day-night Test which proves more accessible to families and a prime time boon for television broadcasters.

South Australian Cricket Association boss Keith Bradshaw said Adelaide was the “obvious choice” for the inaugural day-night Test after a meeting of fellow chief executives this week.

“The eyes of the world will be on Adelaide, it is a world first,” said Bradshaw who pioneered the introduction of pink balls as Marylebone Cricket Club chief five years ago.

“We will attract massive interest, the timeslot works well. It would be special to host the first day night Test.

Melbourne and Sydney won’t change their Boxing Day and New Year Tests and Perth has a different time zone.”

The second Sheffield Shield round that finished last week featured a new pink ball with a black seam and improved lacquer. Play spanned 2pm-9.30pm — the family, leisure and television friendly hours that late Channel 9 mogul Kerry Packer first recommended for Test cricket 30 years ago.

“The big issue is the integrity of the game and balance between bat and ball. We had a result in the South Australia v New South Wales game on the fourth day. The game wasn’t impacted by the fact we used a pink ball.”

Adelaide’s dry spring climate, time zone and redeveloped stadium makes it the only viable venue to host the day-night clash against the Kiwis.

“I think we have a real advantage when you consider weather, dew factor and time zone,” Bradshaw told The Advertiser.


“The Kiwis will request some day-night practice games before taking on Australia next summer which would be all part of the build up.

“I would expect significantly increased attendances for what we have had in previous years.”

Colour blind Test opener Rogers declined to play the day-night Sheffield Shield round for Victoria claiming he can’t pick up a pink ball but will be told that practice makes perfect. Rogers last faced a pink ball four years ago.

The Advertiser understands independent research has determined colour blind players actually see the pink ball better than a red ball. A colour blind person sees the pink ball as light green and a red ball as dark green.

“We have the pink dye infusing into the leather now so it doesn’t chip or discolour. The feedback is positive towards heading to a day-night Test,” said Bradshaw.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/c...alia-new-zealand/story-fni2usfi-1227123632675
 
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Rod Marsh on Day/Night Tests

Australia great Rodney Marsh has said that concerns over ball colour should not stop the staging of day/night Tests, given it is more than 30 years since he played in floodlit “Supertests” during World Series Cricket.

Last month the sport's global governing body, the International Cricket Council (ICC), announced Tests could be played under lights, with rival teams deciding on the hours of play and the colour of the ball to be used.

“I say bring it on!” Marsh, who played in the “rebel” World Series Cricket run by the Australian media mogul Kerry Packer in the 1970s, which pioneered innovations now commonplace to the world game such as coloured clothing and floodlights.

“What people need to understand is that during World Series Cricket we played Supertests at night,” Marsh, one of cricket's greatest wicket-keepers, was quoted as saying on Lords.org on Wednesday.

“This was nearly 35 years ago and there is no reason why this can't happen with Test matches today.”While Test cricket attracts large crowds in England, attendances in other parts of the world for the five-day game have declined.

But supporters of day/night Tests argue they could revive spectator interest in the format, making it easier for fans to work during the day.

Day/night fixtures proved popular with Australian crowds when introduced by Packer and have since become an accepted part of one-day games around the world.

Australia selector Marsh, 65, said there was no reason why floodlit cricket would not succeed at Test level as well.

“Night Test cricket would be really successful on the sub-continent and in Australia, New Zealand and South Africa,” he said.

“I don't think it's necessary in the UK but it could easily go through until 8:00 pm (1900 GMT during the English season) with a red ball. The West Indies may also embrace day/night Test matches.”
 
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A scorecard from one of the Supertests played in 1979 at SCG

note Australian team known as WSC Australians
Which was the World Series Cricket side.
I was a small kid at time and watched WSC cricket on channel 9 and actually did not understand what the *other* Australian side was. i.e the Test side at the time. The Test cricket was on channel two but it looked like not of same standard. The next summer WSC Cricket and Test cricket merged together as one and that was last time I saw day/night Supetests!!!

from cricinfo site here is one of games from back then that I probably saw on tv.
Dennis Lillee got 7 for 23 in second innings and match winner but these stats never get included in his Test match record.
No WSC stats are recognized by ICC but it was the best standard of cricket around at that time.

World Series Cricket Supertests - Semi final
WSC Australia v WSC West Indies
WSC Australia won by 10 wickets
1978/79 season
Played at Sydney Cricket Ground
21,22,23,24 January 1979 - day/night match (4-day match)

WSC West Indies 1st innings R
CG Greenidge c Pascoe b Bright 39
RA Austin b Lillee 27
IVA Richards c IM Chappell b Bright 10
LG Rowe c & b Bright 4
JC Allen c Gilmour b Bright 20
CH Lloyd* not out 37
DL Murray† c †Marsh b Bright 0
AME Roberts c †Marsh b Pascoe 0
AL Padmore c Wessels b Bright 12
WW Daniel b Pascoe 1
CEH Croft c †Marsh b Lillee 3
Extras (lb 4, nb 6) 10

Total (all out; 67 overs) 163 (2.43 runs per over)
Fall of wickets 1-65 (Austin), 2-82 (Greenidge), 3-82 (Richards), 4-102 (Rowe), 5-118 (Allen), 6-118 (Murray), 7-119 (Roberts), 8-144 (Padmore), 9-145 (Daniel), 10-163 (Croft)
Bowling O M R W Econ
DK Lillee 15 4 33 2 2.20
GJ Gilmour 10 3 26 0 2.60
LS Pascoe 19 4 42 2 2.21
RJ Bright 23 6 52 6 2.26

WSC Australia 1st innings R
BM Laird c Greenidge b Roberts 0
KC Wessels b Croft 5
GS Chappell lbw b Croft 8
IR Redpath lbw b Padmore 9
DW Hookes c Greenidge b Croft 69
IM Chappell* b Croft 23
RW Marsh† c Richards b Croft 23
GJ Gilmour c Austin b Roberts 3
DK Lillee c Richards b Roberts 2
RJ Bright b Daniel 18
LS Pascoe not out 5
Extras (b 7, lb 6, nb 7) 20

Total (all out; 86.4 overs) 185 (2.13 runs per over)
Fall of wickets 1-0 (Laird), 2-10 (Wessels), 3-17 (GS Chappell), 4-88 (Redpath), 5-118 (IM Chappell), 6-147, 7-153, 8-173, 9-177, 10-185
Bowling O M R W Econ
AME Roberts 29 14 35 3 1.20
CEH Croft 26 7 65 5 2.50
WW Daniel 14.4 4 21 1 1.43
RA Austin 2 0 9 0 4.50
AL Padmore 15 3 35 1 2.33

WSC West Indies 2nd innings R
CG Greenidge c GS Chappell b Lillee 8
RA Austin lbw b Lillee 0
JC Allen c GS Chappell b Lillee 4
LG Rowe c Redpath b Lillee 12
IVA Richards b Lillee 10
CH Lloyd* c Laird b Pascoe 29
DL Murray† c GS Chappell b Lillee 9
AME Roberts lbw b Pascoe 0
AL Padmore c Laird b Bright 11
WW Daniel b Lillee 2
CEH Croft not out 0
Extras (b 1, lb 2, nb 1) 4

Total (all out; 37.5 overs) 89 (2.35 runs per over)
Fall of wickets 1-5 (Austin), 2-12 (Greenidge), 3-19 (Allen), 4-31 (Rowe), 5-42 (Richards), 6-69 (Lloyd), 7-69 (Roberts), 8-80 (Murray), 9-88 (Daniel), 10-89 (Padmore)
Bowling O M R W Econ
DK Lillee 14 3 23 7 1.64
GJ Gilmour 11 3 30 0 2.72
LS Pascoe 5 0 20 2 4.00
RJ Bright 7.5 2 12 1 1.53

WSC Australia 2nd innings (target: 68 runs) R
KC Wessels not out 40
BM Laird not out 26
Extras (nb 2) 2

Total (0 wickets; 24.5 overs) 68 (2.73 runs per over)
Did not bat GS Chappell, IR Redpath, DW Hookes, IM Chappell*, RW Marsh†, GJ Gilmour, DK Lillee, RJ Bright, LS Pascoe
Bowling O M R W Econ
AME Roberts 4 0 21 0 5.25
CEH Croft 3 0 11 0 3.66
WW Daniel 4 1 14 0 3.50
RA Austin 5 1 7 0 1.40
AL Padmore 8.5 3 13 0 1.47
Match details
Toss WSC West Indies, who chose to bat
Umpires JR Collins and G Duperouzel
Close of play
Sun, 21 Jan - day 1 - WSC Australia 1st innings 50/3 (IR Redpath ?*, DW Hookes 25*)
Mon, 22 Jan - day 2 - no play
Tue, 23 Jan - day 3 - WSC West Indies 2nd innings 78/7 (DL Murray ?*, AL Padmore ?*)
Wed, 24 Jan - day 4 - WSC Australia 2nd innings 68/0 (24.5 ov) - end of match
 
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wiki stuff


For the 1978–79 season the Supertest format was changed to a round-robin format, with the top team going to the final, and the other two teams playing-off in a semi-final. The Supertests were also changed from the traditional five-day Test match format to four-day day–night matches.

8–11 December 1978
s
WSC Australia XI Aus WSC
v
World WSC.png World XI
150 (83.5 overs)
Ian Chappell 48
Garth Le Roux 5/39 (25.5 overs)
175 (99.4 overs)
Javed Miandad 59
Dennis Lillee 4/51 (32.4 overs)
180 (98.2 overs)
Greg Chappell 81
Imran Khan 4/30 (15.2)
257 (140 overs)
Majid Khan 77
Gary Gilmour 3/57 (29 overs)
WSC World XI won by 102 runs
VFL Park, Melbourne, Victoria
Umpires: Gary Duperouzel and Jack Collins
21–23 December 1978
scorecard
WSC West Indies XI Windies WSC.png
v
World WSC.png WSC World XI
217 (70.5 overs)
Lawrence Rowe 85
Mike Procter 3/36 (8.5 overs)
471 (163.3 overs)
Asif Iqbal 107
Albert Padmore 4/102 (39.3 overs)
210 (62.2 overs)
Andy Roberts 45
Derek Underwood 3/68 (24 overs)
WSC World XI won by an innings and 4 runs
Sydney Cricket Ground, New South Wales
Umpires: Gary Duperouzel and Peter Enright
12–15 January 1979
scorecard
WSC Australia XI Aus WSC.png
v
Windies WSC.png WSC West Indies XI
366 (121.5 overs)
Kepler Wessels 126
Joel Garner 3/79 (32 overs)
419 (163.1 overs)
Lawrence Rowe 175
Dennis Lillee 3/91 (42 overs)
304 (152 overs)
Ian Chappell 65
Ryan Austin 4/85 (53 overs)
2/126 (57 overs)
Gordon Greenidge 58*
Mick Malone 2/41 (13 overs)
Match drawn
VFL Park, Melbourne, Victoria
Umpires: Gary Duperouzel and Douglas Sang Hue
Player of the match: Lawrence Rowe
By winning both matches the WSC World XI qualified for the final. A semi-final between WSC Australia and WSC West Indies determined the other finalist.
Semi-Final
21–24 January 1979
scorecard
WSC Australia XI
v
WSC West Indies XI
185 (86.4 overs)
David Hookes 69
Colin Croft 5/65 (26 overs)
163 (67 overs)
Gordon Greenidge 39
Ray Bright 6/52 (23 overs)
0/68 (24.5 overs)
Kepler Wessels 40
89 (37.5 overs)
Clive Lloyd 29
Dennis Lillee 7/23 (14 overs)
WSC Australia XI won by 10 wickets
Sydney Cricket Ground, New South Wales
Umpires: Gary Duperouzel and Jack Collins
Final
2–4 February 1979
scorecard
WSC Australia XI Aus WSC.png
v
World WSC.png WSC World XI
172 (50.4 overs)
David Hookes 33
Garth Le Roux 5/57 (18.4 overs)
168 (64.5 overs)
Garth Le Roux 33*
Dennis Lillee 5/51 (18.5 overs)
219 (87.3 overs)
David Hookes 96
Garth Le Roux 4/44 (17.3 overs)
5/226 (57.1 overs)
Barry Richards 101
Gary Gilmour 2/75 (22 overs)
WSC World XI won by 5 wickets
Sydney Cricket Ground, New South Wales
Umpires: Douglas Sang Hue & Jack Collins
Player of the match: Garth Le Roux
 

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Hmmm all very, very interesting. Should be good to see how it works.
I would think it will run to similar time slots as to that of Day/Night ODI's, from say around 2 til 10:30 ish.
 
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World Cup still some time away but early thoughts.

Squad of 15
If I were selector, he's what my best 11 and squad of 15 would look like:

1. David Warner
2. Aaron Finch
3. Cameron White
4. Steve Smith
5. George Bailey
6. Mitch Marsh
7. Ben Dunk
8. James Faulkner
9. Mitch Johnson
10. Pat Cummins
11. Cameron Boyce

12. Glenn Maxwell
13. Shane Watson
14. Josh Hazlewood
15. Michael Clarke

Wade, Coulter-Nile, Haddin and Starc all extremely stiff.
 
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If I were selector, he's what my best 11 and squad of 15 would look like:

1. David Warner
2. Aaron Finch
3. Cameron White
4. Steve Smith
5. George Bailey
6. Mitch Marsh
7. Ben Dunk
8. James Faulkner
9. Mitch Johnson
10. Pat Cummins
11. Cameron Boyce

12. Glenn Maxwell
13. Shane Watson
14. Josh Hazlewood
15. Michael Clarke

Wade, Coulter-Nile, Haddin and Starc all extremely stiff.
Interesting. White let us down last World Cup so cannot see him getting a gig.
Think T20 is his game.
Similarly I think Dunk be lucky to get a gig but brave choice.
I cannot see Starc or Coulter-Nile missing unless Pattinson somehow gets back to full time bowling over summer or Hazelwood proves me wrong and gets a spot ahead of them. I think Starc will be important. He can get wickets in a hurry with his inswinging yorkers. Handy late order bat too.
 
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Who did Faulkner fall out with? Match winning performer not as good as the massively over hyped youtube quality Maxwell? Faulkner averages 10+ better with both bat and ball in ODIs.
 
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Not good Coulter-Nile got a hammy. Not to fuss. Plenty of time until World Cup time.
James Faulkner the finisher tonight to add onto great work of Smith and Wade to get Australia back in the chase when looked almost gone. Series wrapped up and good preview to World Cup starting in about 3 months time.
 
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4 - 1 result. Not bad considering Clarke and Mitchell Johnson basically took little part and Maxwell was out of form this series.
 
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I really hope Phil Hughes is alright, not looking good at the moment. Shook me up quite a bit seeing what happened, hope he pulls through!
 
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I really hope Phil Hughes is alright, not looking good at the moment. Shook me up quite a bit seeing what happened, hope he pulls through!

Really scary stuff.
It is eerie as I just watched a fox footy show that was a special on Peter Motley footy career last week that I had never seen.
He came to Carlton in 1986 with Kernahan and Bradley. Many rated him better than those two. He had injury ravaged first season. Came back later in year and started to get match fit. Played in 86 grand final at half back despite never getting fully match fitness that season. Early next season he looked to be starting to find himself and I was excited how good he looked. I remember coming home from a game versus Footscray and loving what I saw and excited how talented he was. Not long after he was involved in a car accident coming back from footy training. In shock found out his life was on the line. After a scary week or so he managed to pull through.
It was such a bad accident it was surprising he lived. Thankfully he still gets around on with his life but was never able to play football again naturally. He had to learn to talk again and move his whole body. Amazing he is still with us. His best mate Braddles at the time lived with him. Everyone was shook up. Made the whole season eerie feeling but we managed to win the flag and Motley was in the room after the game and Braddles gave him his medallion.

Must admit have same worry for Phil Hughes. I hope he pulls through in next day and a bit. They had to have surgery. I think he is still in induced coma. Obviously they called off the Shield game as all players on both sides will be in deep shock. I suspect the whole cricket community will be. Thankfully all the medical help he needs is on hand. Really feel for his family right now. Good luck Phil Hughes and his family. Everyones well wishes will be with you.
 

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Shattered to hear about Phil Hughes, I have a very very small connection to him so have been following him a bit more than any other cricketer. Desperately hoping he has a full recovery.
 
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Think they did the right thing for all concerned.

Sheffield Shield round abandoned

from ESPNCricinfo.com
Daniel Brettig
November 25, 2014

Cricket Australia has elected to abandon the full round of Sheffield Shield matches after the critical injury suffered by Phillip Hughes on day one of the match between New South Wales and South Australia in Sydney.

That game was abandoned as soon as Hughes was taken to St Vincent's Hospital, and after deliberations between CA and the Australian Cricketers Association, it has been decided that it would not be fair or appropriate to continue the matches between Victoria and Western Australia in Melbourne or Tasmania and Queensland in Hobart.

"We've spoken to players and the ACA, and given how players across the country are feeling right now, it's just not the day to be playing cricket and we understand that," CA's team performance manager Pat Howard said. "We are continuing to offer all players and match officials counselling and support at this difficult time.

"Phillip Hughes continues to receive the best possible medical care. The thoughts of his teammates and the wider cricket community are with Phillip and his family and friends."

One point will be given to each team for the abandoned matches, under the terms of CA's revised playing conditions for the Shield this summer. ACA chief executive Alistair Nicholson supported the decision.

"The ACA supports Cricket Australia's decision to abandon the remaining matches in this round of the Sheffield Shield," he said. "We note that the advice of experts and the thoughts of the players were given strong consideration in this decision.

"We agree that given the unique and very serious nature of this situation, players and officials are best placed surrounded by family and friends, supporting one another and sending their best wishes Phillip's way.

"The ACA is continuing to provide counselling support for players and their families, and extends this support to any former players who may be affected by the events in Sydney."
 

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RIP Hughesy.
At 25, he really had the opportunity to mature into a class batsman and cement his spot in the side in his later years.
Sad day for cricket, one which will never be forgotten.
 

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Very sad.....

Just crazy the one in a million chance of that occurring especially with Hughes wearing a helmet

#RIPPhilHughes Shocking News!

Feel very bad for Sean Abbott too.....
 
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