2015: Rate My Team - Part II (SC Gold Team Picker Edition)

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D: Smith, Hibberd, Hurn, Newnes, Waters, Goddard (McGuinness, Newman)

M: Ablett, Pendlebury, Selwood, Ward, DANGER, Heeney, Boekhorst, Laverde (Dumount, Freeman, C Smith)

R: Nic Nat, TBC (Nankervis)

F: Deledio, Goddard, Martin, Swan, Clark, Hogan (Krakouer, Lambert)

I can switch Danger into say Cripps and TBC into Maric.
 
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My last team a few days ago didn't get any attention, so maybe i'll have more luck with two teams :p

With so many midfield/forward options this season that could potentially be in the top 10 at the end of 2015.
Gray, Harvey, Deledio, Goddard, Martin, Zorko, Bennell, Swan. I'm thinking at least 4 or 5 of these guys will be in the top 10 forwards by the end of the year. Other relevant players i have seen in some teams include Ziebell, Bontempelli and Mitchell who could push up to or past a 90 average.

I am currently planning on starting Deledio, Goddard, Martin and Swan, but i also like Franklin for 100+ this season. Is there any merit to starting 1 or maybe even 2 midfield/forwards in the midfield this season?

These are the two options i am contemplating at the moment.

1:
DEF: Hibberd, Hurn, Newnes, Docherty, Waters, Smith (Maynard, Goddard)
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Murphy, Dangerfield, Wines, Cockatoo, Anderson, Boekorst (Freeman, McKenzie, Krakouer)
RUCK: Naitanui, Leuenberger (Read)
FOR: Goddard, Deledio, Martin, Swan, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Daniel)

$103,600 cash remaining and byes: 8-12-10


2:
DEF: Hibberd, Hurn, Newnes, Docherty, Waters, Smith (Maynard, Goddard)
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Murphy, Deledio, Goddard, Cockatoo, Anderson, Boekorst (Freeman, McKenzie, Krakouer)
RUCK: Maric, Naitanui (Read)
FOR: Franklin, Martin, Swan, Wingard, Clark, Hogan (Steele, Daniel)

$65,800 cash remaining and byes: 8-12-10

What do you guys think? Any merit or is it just silly?
 

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Anfa - I don't mind it as an idea, although I prefer the first team given the players you've chosen within that structure.

I think based on the above, it's Danger + Wines + Leuy + 38k vs Franklin + Wingard + Maric. I have 2 of the first 3, none of the last 3, and the first option also gives spare cash ... so definitely the first.

I do think it's an interesting idea though - I think Freowho might have raised it initially. Pushing someone like Titchell to the mids instead of, say, Steven or another slightly speculative/weak M5 allows another one of the likely keeper forward prospects you name to be in my side, so it's certainly something I will be thinking about. Ultimately I think it will depend on the rookie/rookie-priced prospects in the mids and forwards, which obviously remain up in the air for a couple of months yet.
 
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Dirt Harry Taylor - didn't he take me on a roller coaster ride last year, including a 42 in the last round, which followed a 59 the week before.. I like the inclusion of Clurey - he may get more love as time passes. I'm concerned that Heater will only get 18-19 games this year.
IMHO Rocky will drop 10-15 points and you may be better saving 150k for possibly similar output. He won't get as many 1 2's. or cheap possessions with an improved Lions midfield. I do however like your various captain options in the "leadership group"

Maybe Taylor to Waters (or low mid pricers JJ or Docherty), Rocky to a 570 k, Salem up to Mitchell/JZ or Saad to ....

I like it (that's 14 keepers if Dirty Hatty stays true), with just my opinion on the others :)
 

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If you put a premium forward in your midfield what you are effectively doing is picking a rookie forward over a rookie mid. We really can't assess the value in doing this until we get a better idea of the rookies available in each line.
 
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If you put a premium forward in your midfield what you are effectively doing is picking a rookie forward over a rookie mid. We really can't assess the value in doing this until we get a better idea of the rookies available in each line.
Yep, spot on Philzsay.

It certainly depends on the rookies available and I won't be picking a poor forward rookie over a good mid rookie just because I think it's a cool strategy.

However if we do have a good selection of forward rookies then it is more about the forward keeper vs the mid keeper. Last year I started with Beams, JPK, Cotchin and traded in Murphy early. I got 3 out of 4 right and was really confident to pick them. However all the good premiums from last year look like upgrade targets to me and I just feel that any value premium mid I pick will be more speculative this year.

But when I look at the forward line it's a lot more clear cut for me. Gray, Harvey and Ryder are all upgrade targets while Deledio, Goddard, Franklin, Dusty and Bartel are solid keepers. When you add Mitchell who screams breakout, Swan who screams fallen premium (if fit) and an R/F for cover which is a preference of mine, then I've got about 10-12 forwards that I would be happy to have in my team. So why not start some of them in the midfield where I'm less confident?

But as Philzsay and Hondo in another thread have stated, I'll be chasing the rookies first before these decisions are made.
 

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Yeah I've thought about it. I don't know if its just me but I'm not seeing as many mid rookies as others are. Maybe I should look at Rich? Like I said the only reason I haven't spent more in the backline is because I just don't know which premos to trust. I don't really like any of them!

In your opinion what will Rich score? He could come into my team if he looks like scoring
Sorry Just saw that then.

I initially thought Rich would be a great pick up, with the possibility of a greater midfield role and the fact that the emergence of Rockliff and Hanley would shift the tag off him making a 100-105 average seem reasonable.

Im no expert on Rich but this is what I've sort of gathered from this site. The inclusion of Beams, Christiansen as well as the likes of Aish, Taylor, Zorko all vying for midfield time most people think he will most likely play a decent amount of time down running off the back flank and wing where he could average 90ish which makes him an OK proposition but not for me.
 
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Sorry Just saw that then.

I initially thought Rich would be a great pick up, with the possibility of a greater midfield role and the fact that the emergence of Rockliff and Hanley would shift the tag off him making a 100-105 average seem reasonable.

Im no expert on Rich but this is what I've sort of gathered from this site. The inclusion of Beams, Christiansen as well as the likes of Aish, Taylor, Zorko all vying for midfield time most people think he will most likely play a decent amount of time down running off the back flank and wing where he could average 90ish which makes him an OK proposition but not for me.
I haven't gone for him at this point. Decided instead to go 4 premium mids and the rest rookies (for now). Means I could get in another forward premium. I've never been keen on midpricers in the midfield.
 
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If you put a premium forward in your midfield what you are effectively doing is picking a rookie forward over a rookie mid. We really can't assess the value in doing this until we get a better idea of the rookies available in each line.
Yep, spot on Philzsay.

It certainly depends on the rookies available and I won't be picking a poor forward rookie over a good mid rookie just because I think it's a cool strategy.

But when I look at the forward line it's a lot more clear cut for me. Gray, Harvey and Ryder are all upgrade targets while Deledio, Goddard, Franklin, Dusty and Bartel are solid keepers. When you add Mitchell who screams breakout, Swan who screams fallen premium (if fit) and an R/F for cover which is a preference of mine, then I've got about 10-12 forwards that I would be happy to have in my team. So why not start some of them in the midfield where I'm less confident?

But as Philzsay and Hondo in another thread have stated, I'll be chasing the rookies first before these decisions are made.

I understand what you guys are saying in regards to not compromising rookie selections, just to try and make the strategy work. 100% get that :) However, in both of those teams all rookies have remained the same. Obviously all strategies and teams are determined by how many playing rookies we get in each line for round 1. However with the above teams, i have only changed 3 premium players. It works out to be:
Dangerfield+Wines+Leuenberger+40k extra cash vs Franklin+Wingard/T.Mitchell+Maric/Goldstein.

Having Maric or Goldstein makes the ruck line feel much more safe, with not having a ruck/forward for insurance.
 
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Would love some feedback on this team. 9k remaining with potential for 18 keepers

have had a bit of a muck with it and changed hurn to fisher and barlow/montagna to J Selwood/Steven
 
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Would love some feedback on this team. 9k remaining with potential for 18 keepers

have had a bit of a muck with it and changed hurn to fisher and barlow/montagna to J Selwood/Steven
I count 12 keepers there mate. Maybe 13 if leuenberger dose alright and you run out of trades. Hurn and Newnes only premos in defence i would upgrade harry to make it 3. Mids i like the Barlow pick but one of Murphy, Swallow or Boak have to become a captain type player not a 105-110 type. Montangna no thanks. Forwards are good im not a fan of Bellchambers but see why your doing it. Bit of work in this team to get it ready for round 1.
 

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Would love some feedback on this team. 9k remaining with potential for 18 keepers

have had a bit of a muck with it and changed hurn to fisher and barlow/montagna to J Selwood/Steven
Having basically one player over $600k is fraught (is that how you spell it?) with Danger. Your going to get halfway through the season and be missing out on three of Rockcliff, Fyfe, Pendlebury, Selwood, Kennedy as well as missing prehaps a midfeilder who jumps into the 115-120 range eg.) Sloane, Heppell.

I honestly see none of Barlow, Murph or Boak getting above 108 av and neither Swallow or Montagna getting above 103. Unless you see the first 3 going 114+ and the other 2 going 110+ I'm not sure how your going to get the big scores in the latter half of the season.


And please explain lumumba. Absolute flog of a human being, can't kick and never averged over 90 and is now playing for MELBOURNE.
 

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Gday guys, first time poster here.

Would like to see if you guys have any feedback for my preliminary team for 2015.

DEF: Hibberd, Birchall, Shaw, Waters, Whitecross, McKenzie (Goddard, Viojo-Rainbow)
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Sloane, Van Berlo, Cripps, Heeney, Daniel (Steele, Freeman, Atkins)
RUCK: Jacobs, Goldstein (A Smith)
FWD: Deledio, Goddard, Martin, Mitchell, Salem, Clark (Hogan, Laverde)

$41,300 left to play with.
 
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