Analysis Midfield Rookies
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Hi new to this board and this is the one I am struggling with. I have 4 premiums ( not ablett) then mundy , claye beams and 4 rookies.
I am seeing a trend towards 4 - 6, not sure I have the guts to go that way, seems you are relying on at least 70 from ALL of your rookies on the field.
I guess for me it would be pointless to go 4-6 without ablett as one of my premiums though.
I guess my question is if you have 4 rookies on the field what are you expecting from those rookies n terms of points?
My recent years I have finished from 200th to 28,000 th
So I am guessing my previous strategy isn't too bad.
I am seeing a trend towards 4 - 6, not sure I have the guts to go that way, seems you are relying on at least 70 from ALL of your rookies on the field.
I guess for me it would be pointless to go 4-6 without ablett as one of my premiums though.
I guess my question is if you have 4 rookies on the field what are you expecting from those rookies n terms of points?
My recent years I have finished from 200th to 28,000 th
So I am guessing my previous strategy isn't too bad.
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I don't think the midfield rookies run as deep as most people think, to be honest.
You have your Wines, O'Meara, Viney and Crouch that are locks that everyone will have. And then you can splash out a lot of cash to get Whitfield, Hill or Toumpas (who all have question marks anyway). But it gets a little hazey after that.
K.Mitchell: I don't think he's the lock that everyone thinks he is. He mentioned in an episode of DT Talk earlier in the pre-season that he's been training as a lockdown HFF. While he was allowed to run free in the first few rounds of the NAB Cup, last night vs. West Coast he played a defensive role on Shannon Hurn and only picked up 3 disposals from 69% gametime. Then you add in that he's a shocking kick of the football and isn't a best 22 lock anyway... he has question marks on him.
D.Kent and M.Jones: The Melbourne boys have both been impressive in the NAB but can you really trust their job security and roles? Melbourne have quite a few mids that are similar to these blokes (Magner, Couch, McKenzie). They are boarderline Best 22 at best. Still not sold on either of them, though they are very cheap.
J.Lonergan: Should see plenty game time this year but probably won't be a prolific scorer. He's 23-30k more expensive than most rookies too so you have to ask yourself if he's worth that. Showed a bit in the NAB but not enough to lock him in.
Then there's guys like Colqhuon (or however you bloody spell him name; looks a player, but is still very skinny and probably won't get games right away), Tom Mitchell (won't play right away), Kavanagh (won't play right away), Kommer (might get a shot Round 1 but will most likely play as a defensive forward and probably won't score too well), Anderson (could get games from the start but will likely wear the green vest a lot), Blicavs (smokie; could play early with the injuries that Geelong have but probably won't score too well).
Of course you could always just chuck guys like Vlaustin, Goodes and Neade into your midfield if your finding mid rooks hard to come by.
It'll be interesting to see how many and which rooks people end up going with in the mids.
You have your Wines, O'Meara, Viney and Crouch that are locks that everyone will have. And then you can splash out a lot of cash to get Whitfield, Hill or Toumpas (who all have question marks anyway). But it gets a little hazey after that.
K.Mitchell: I don't think he's the lock that everyone thinks he is. He mentioned in an episode of DT Talk earlier in the pre-season that he's been training as a lockdown HFF. While he was allowed to run free in the first few rounds of the NAB Cup, last night vs. West Coast he played a defensive role on Shannon Hurn and only picked up 3 disposals from 69% gametime. Then you add in that he's a shocking kick of the football and isn't a best 22 lock anyway... he has question marks on him.
D.Kent and M.Jones: The Melbourne boys have both been impressive in the NAB but can you really trust their job security and roles? Melbourne have quite a few mids that are similar to these blokes (Magner, Couch, McKenzie). They are boarderline Best 22 at best. Still not sold on either of them, though they are very cheap.
J.Lonergan: Should see plenty game time this year but probably won't be a prolific scorer. He's 23-30k more expensive than most rookies too so you have to ask yourself if he's worth that. Showed a bit in the NAB but not enough to lock him in.
Then there's guys like Colqhuon (or however you bloody spell him name; looks a player, but is still very skinny and probably won't get games right away), Tom Mitchell (won't play right away), Kavanagh (won't play right away), Kommer (might get a shot Round 1 but will most likely play as a defensive forward and probably won't score too well), Anderson (could get games from the start but will likely wear the green vest a lot), Blicavs (smokie; could play early with the injuries that Geelong have but probably won't score too well).
Of course you could always just chuck guys like Vlaustin, Goodes and Neade into your midfield if your finding mid rooks hard to come by.
It'll be interesting to see how many and which rooks people end up going with in the mids.
Hi Shane Rioli*, welcome on board.
I think with the extra coverage required to fill 8 Mid spots, it is very sensible to have at least 1 Rookie DPP link to help out. No good having Goddard/Gibbs/Heppell or Rockliff/Martin/Zorko sitting in Def or Fwd, with idea of having Mid back up, if you have to burn a trade to get them there. One is enough, if you are having trouble finding 2 you like. The more Rookies you have in your Mid, the more important it is to have the link.
Good luck
*Shane Rioli reference too cryptic to non-Hawthorn supporters?
I think with the extra coverage required to fill 8 Mid spots, it is very sensible to have at least 1 Rookie DPP link to help out. No good having Goddard/Gibbs/Heppell or Rockliff/Martin/Zorko sitting in Def or Fwd, with idea of having Mid back up, if you have to burn a trade to get them there. One is enough, if you are having trouble finding 2 you like. The more Rookies you have in your Mid, the more important it is to have the link.
Good luck
*Shane Rioli reference too cryptic to non-Hawthorn supporters?
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Could this be because the article was written before we were certain of the best 18 on-field during byes? 
We had to take into consideration that we only had 2 bench spots per line for each bye round. Now we have an extra 4 bench spots making a total of 12 and we can choose to use those extra 4 bench spots in any position on ground (bar rucks*) provided we have that particular round bye player to field in that position. This is also where I think having DPP players will come in handy to have more flexibility where we want to use our 4 on-field bench.
It's definitely changed my mind on how many mid premiums to field
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*well you can chose to use the on-field ruck position as bench if you want to create more space for players in other lines with the use of your r/f's
We had to take into consideration that we only had 2 bench spots per line for each bye round. Now we have an extra 4 bench spots making a total of 12 and we can choose to use those extra 4 bench spots in any position on ground (bar rucks*) provided we have that particular round bye player to field in that position. This is also where I think having DPP players will come in handy to have more flexibility where we want to use our 4 on-field bench.It's definitely changed my mind on how many mid premiums to field
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*well you can chose to use the on-field ruck position as bench if you want to create more space for players in other lines with the use of your r/f's
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