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My first try; I just put in random $124k rookies for price reasons.
Gee Wow by taking a number of the popular mid pricers one can actually make a team with just 3 rookies on field...
 
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Back- Laird,Bartel,Yeo,B.Smith, (4 rooks)

Mid- Pendles,Ablett,Selwood,Rockliff,Liberatore,Myers (4 rooks)

Ruck- Goldstein,Martin (donut)

Fwd- Martin,Dahlhaus,Barlow,Greene (4 rooks)

Have picked rookies between 117-155 with my R3 being 102k.
 
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Seeing Barlow as a bit of constant, have him too in my initial team. In reality he was damn ordinary last year.
 
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Seeing Barlow as a bit of constant, have him too in my initial team. In reality he was damn ordinary last year.
Slid down the pecking order with Neale improving and not to mention Bennel as well next year.
His very handy price is bluring our judgement
 
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Christopoulos V2

NOTE: Rookies on all lines mostly speculative, but I have a bit of an idea.

D: Bartel, Yeo, Smith, Malceski, MW. Brown, Bonner (Byrne, Hibberd)

I am confident of Bartel finding enough of the ball at half back to average 90-100 again, and not getting rested. Yeo will surely play more midfield time with McKenzie and Brown freeing him up. Smith showed a bit right at the end of last season, and should play more midfield time with Danger at the Cats. Like Smith, Mal showed a bit right at the end (consecutive tons in last two rounds) and we don't have to worry about him being subbed this season. Have I gone too light on in the defence?

M: Fyfe, Ablett, JPK, Sloane, Rockliff, Libba, Crouch, Freeman (Cuningham, Keays, Mathieson)

5 guaranteed keepers providing they all stay injury-free (wishful thinking), and I would think at least one of Libba and Crouch will be a keeper (bench cover at worst) but both should make money. Keays and Mathieson unlikely to both get early games so I'll wait and see which one looks better.

R: NicNat, Tippett (Read)

Plan is to get Goldy using either Leuey or Tippett as a stepping stone. I'll try to keep whichever one looks better, as cover (or better) for the whole season. Only problem is that all these guys have a round 14 bye, so when I upgrade to Goldy (round 15 bye), I will have to cop a donut in the round 14 bye. With the vast majority of SC-relevant ruckmen with bye rounds in round 14/15, it is likely many teams will cop the same donut.

EDIT: RB just pointed out that you only need 18 players on field during the bye rounds to avoid the donut. Great!

F: Deledio, Dahlhaus, Barlow, Leuenberger, Kerridge, Petracca (Sumner, Adams)

3 forwards locked and loaded for the season, barring injury, with Leuey as ruck cover. Kerridge and Petracca both great prospects that should get early games. Adams D/F eligibility creates a link with Mitch Brown, who is in my defence.

All feedback welcome.
 
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D: Boyd, McVeigh D/M, Laird, Yeo D/M, R, R, (R, R)
M: Fyfe, Ablett, Priddis, Kennedy, Libba, R, R, R, (R, R, R)
R: Blicavs (R/M), Nicholls, (Loersch R/F)
F: Lids, Dahlhaus M/F, Barlow M/F, Lynch (GC), R, R, (R, R)

11-15 keepers
Average of $130,800 per rookie
 
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^^ Bomber Sam - I like your team. Just a few comments, which aren't criticisms, but just observations:
1. Only one rookie in the mid field. I realize that with a lot of value around that there is a temptation to load up the mids. This should help with some good scores early on, but as most of the really good cash cows come from the mids, you may be 1-2 too heavy with premos. From memory IDIG started with a premo heavy midfield this year so you may like to get his opinion about whether that was a good approach or not. If you do go this way, you want to ensure that you have picked mostly top scoring mids from the get-go.
2. As a result of goign deep in the midfield, Ruck might be a bit light. Although you have a strategy to upgrade, so it may be a smart move.
3. I picked Dahlhaus last year at a starting price of $493k on the basis that there was room to improve with Libba out for the season and was really happy with him. This year he starts at $564k and Libba is back. I still like him, but I think there is alot more risk/uncertainty so not as confident with is selection. (I'm not saying its a bad call, just one to think about a bit more carefully)
4. Barlow is one I'm thinking about as well but I'm really unsure about him. Looks like value at his price, but I suspect he is a trap. Need to watch closely during Pre-season.
5. Eski - shocking last season. After moving from Sydney, I'm really not sure what to think about him. With plenty of talent to come back into the team from injury, need to make a call on whether this helps or hinders him.
 
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^^ Bomber Sam - I like your team. Just a few comments, which aren't criticisms, but just observations:
1. Only one rookie in the mid field. I realize that with a lot of value around that there is a temptation to load up the mids. This should help with some good scores early on, but as most of the really good cash cows come from the mids, you may be 1-2 too heavy with premos. From memory IDIG started with a premo heavy midfield this year so you may like to get his opinion about whether that was a good approach or not. If you do go this way, you want to ensure that you have picked mostly top scoring mids from the get-go.
2. As a result of goign deep in the midfield, Ruck might be a bit light. Although you have a strategy to upgrade, so it may be a smart move.
3. I picked Dahlhaus last year at a starting price of $493k on the basis that there was room to improve with Libba out for the season and was really happy with him. This year he starts at $564k and Libba is back. I still like him, but I think there is alot more risk/uncertainty so not as confident with is selection. (I'm not saying its a bad call, just one to think about a bit more carefully)
4. Barlow is one I'm thinking about as well but I'm really unsure about him. Looks like value at his price, but I suspect he is a trap. Need to watch closely during Pre-season.
5. Eski - shocking last season. After moving from Sydney, I'm really not sure what to think about him. With plenty of talent to come back into the team from injury, need to make a call on whether this helps or hinders him.
Thanks for the comments, Ricky Bobby. I really appreciate the lengthy response.

You make a good point regarding my overloaded midfield, I didn't think of that. Dropping Crouch to a cheaper rookie is something I will consider, and it can help me strengthen my other lines. I think I am going to try to get Stef Martin instead of Nic Nat. A likely scenario is Crouch to a cheaper rookie, Nic Nat to Stef Martin. This should give me better cash generation. I must ask though, is there likely to be much difference in cash generation between Crouch starting at 306k and averaging 100, and a 124k rookie averaging 65?

Dahlhaus is one player that I am unsure of either. It is highly likely he won't be in my team come round 1, I just need to figure out who else I like.
Barlow, on the other hand, is one I am more sure of. He had a disappointing season last year and still averaged high enough to be an F5/6. Even if he stays the same this season, he is a keeper, but I feel he will improve to a 100 average.

I am happy to take a risk with Eski, I feel that he will be an inconsistent scorer, but will overall average 90+
 
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Thanks for the comments, Ricky Bobby. I really appreciate the lengthy response.

You make a good point regarding my overloaded midfield, I didn't think of that. Dropping Crouch to a cheaper rookie is something I will consider, and it can help me strengthen my other lines. I think I am going to try to get Stef Martin instead of Nic Nat. A likely scenario is Crouch to a cheaper rookie, Nic Nat to Stef Martin. This should give me better cash generation. I must ask though, is there likely to be much difference in cash generation between Crouch starting at 306k and averaging 100, and a 124k rookie averaging 65?

Dahlhaus is one player that I am unsure of either. It is highly likely he won't be in my team come round 1, I just need to figure out who else I like.
Barlow, on the other hand, is one I am more sure of. He had a disappointing season last year and still averaged high enough to be an F5/6. Even if he stays the same this season, he is a keeper, but I feel he will improve to a 100 average.

I am happy to take a risk with Eski, I feel that he will be an inconsistent scorer, but will overall average 90+
I like your comments about Barlow and I think I might reconsider him on that basis.

I'm not sure if Crouch is the one I would drop out of your midfield. Assuming he performs as expected and stays fit, he should make some good $ and also provide really solid points. You need to consider the role of each player in your team and why you have chosen them. Depending on the answer, you may decide to keep Crouch and drop one of the Premos with a view to bringing them in later.

I actually don't mind NicNat, but only time will tell whether he or Martin is a better choice for your starting team. I think it is hard to sometimes assess whether there is any benefit in downgrading one player and upgrading another as you need to look at the impact on your overall team. What I do is list a full team in an Excel sheet and then assign them each an ave score which I hope they will attain. I then add it up and also include the Captain score to see what the team could potentially score. This can then be used as benchmark to compare against new versions of your team to see if they are better or worse. Sometimes there isn't really much difference between various versions (although team balance, risk and cash generation may look a little different)

In terms of your question about $ gain from Crouch at 100 and a cheaper Rookie at 65, I think they would both earn about $200k (although the % rate of return on the rookie would clearly be higher).
 
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I like your comments about Barlow and I think I might reconsider him on that basis.

I'm not sure if Crouch is the one I would drop out of your midfield. Assuming he performs as expected and stays fit, he should make some good $ and also provide really solid points. You need to consider the role of each player in your team and why you have chosen them. Depending on the answer, you may decide to keep Crouch and drop one of the Premos with a view to bringing them in later.

I actually don't mind NicNat, but only time will tell whether he or Martin is a better choice for your starting team. I think it is hard to sometimes assess whether there is any benefit in downgrading one player and upgrading another as you need to look at the impact on your overall team. What I do is list a full team in an Excel sheet and then assign them each an ave score which I hope they will attain. I then add it up and also include the Captain score to see what the team could potentially score. This can then be used as benchmark to compare against new versions of your team to see if they are better or worse. Sometimes there isn't really much difference between various versions (although team balance, risk and cash generation may look a little different)

In terms of your question about $ gain from Crouch at 100 and a cheaper Rookie at 65, I think they would both earn about $200k (although the % rate of return on the rookie would clearly be higher).
Also, I heard from a member of the FanFooty forums, that Ross said to Barlow after elimination from finals, something along the lines of "sorry for playing you out of position". His source? Apparently his uncle is friends with Barlow's dad. Seems pretty far-fetched, but it's a little something extra if true.

If I am going to run 6 deep in the midfield, I would prefer to start 5 premium midfielders without question marks over their heads, rather than 4 plus 2 returning stars that missed a whole season of football. You make a very good point though, I will need to weigh all these options up.

NicNat is certainly a great choice, but it's my personal opinion that Martin can only boost his average with Leuenberger gone and Rockliff hopefully playing a whole season (increased hitouts to advantage). I will make a big call and say that Stefan Martin will be the highest averaging ruckman in 2016. With that being said, I have shuffled things around a bit, dropping Crouch to a rookie and changing NicNat to Stef Martin.

I also swapped JPK out for Selwood, so that I could turn Malceski into McVeigh, and Dahlhaus into Chopsticks (pending ban). If he goes I can turn him into any forward bar Montagna.

The excel spreadsheets are a great idea and definitely something I will do.

Thanks again for your response, RB, always very helpful.

D: McVeigh, Bartel, Yeo, Smith, MW. Brown, Bonner (Byrne, Hibberd)

M: Fyfe, Ablett, Sloane, Selwood, Rockliff, Liberatore, Fiorini, Freeman (Mathieson, Keays, Cuningham)

R: Martin, Tippett (Read)

F: Deledio, Martin, Barlow, Leuenberger, Kerridge, Petracca (Sumner, Adams)
 

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D: Boyd, McVeigh D/M, Laird, Yeo D/M, R, R, (R, R)
M: Fyfe, Ablett, Priddis, Kennedy, Libba, R, R, R, (R, R, R)
R: Blicavs (R/M), Nicholls, (Loersch R/F)
F: Lids, Dahlhaus M/F, Barlow M/F, Lynch (GC), R, R, (R, R)

11-15 keepers
Average of $130,800 per rookie
Quite the unique-ish looking team that. Any specific reason why you've left Rocky out who i would consider the pick of the midfielders at his starting price.

I'd be interested to hear your hopes/plans with Blicavs, Nicholls and Lynch as they stand out as potential negative POD's down the track.


^^ Bomber Sam - I like your team. Just a few comments, which aren't criticisms, but just observations:
1. Only one rookie in the mid field. I realize that with a lot of value around that there is a temptation to load up the mids. This should help with some good scores early on, but as most of the really good cash cows come from the mids, you may be 1-2 too heavy with premos. From memory IDIG started with a premo heavy midfield this year so you may like to get his opinion about whether that was a good approach or not. If you do go this way, you want to ensure that you have picked mostly top scoring mids from the get-go.
2. As a result of goign deep in the midfield, Ruck might be a bit light. Although you have a strategy to upgrade, so it may be a smart move.
Yeah that's right RB, first time going so heavy in the mids and as a result pretty much crippled my whole season by starting TBC, Lumumba and Newnes (to a less extent) instead of the top enders. This yeah i think we will definitely see some very midfield heavy teams with all the historical super premo's so cheap.

Last year it was definitely the wrong strategy, this year i'm still undecided...i guess it will widely depend on which good rookies we get and what position they play.
 

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DEF: McVeigh, Bartel, Yeo, Smith, Brown, Byrne (Adams, Golds)
MID: GAJ, Fyfe, Pendlebury, Rockliff, Selwood, Liberatore, Crouch, Trengove (Freeman, Mathieson, Menegola)
RUC: Martin, Naitanui (King)
FWD: Deledio, Barlow, Wells, Leuenberger, Petracca, Kerridge (Ahern, Yarran)
 
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Left about 128k/rookie
First crack and not liking the forward options too much this year. Plenty of value everywhere else however. May cut Goldy for Jacobs depending on pre seasons. Will Be going balls deep with no intention of ruck cover, mainly due to Goldy/Martin/Sauce being pretty durable.

Very interested to see where the tag goes at the dogs as still don't think Libba can handle it week in week out. Will be jumping on the Bont if it does swing that way.

McVeigh Bartel Yeo Rich + rookies
Pendles Gaz Jelwood Rocky Libba + rookies
Goldy Martin + rook
Lids Dusty Barlow Greene + rookies

Seems quite easy to fit 15 keepers in the starting side this year as everyone will have either/all of Libba/JoM/Crouch.

Going to be a LOT of very similar starting sides this year.
 
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I'm looking forward to seeing how this changes up to round 1.

I've done an early best efforts with the rookies. Most of them are pretty pricey anyway so I should be able to trade down to the 123k range (even if this year's draft was supposedly pretty barren after the top 20)

This layout is based on Erich's selector with some changes based on what the Gold players have reported. It gives me a 10/10/10 bye structure with $79,200 spare. There's still 8 holes to fill though so hopefully I can get that down by 1 via some cheaper rookies closer to go-live

B: Yeo, Hibberd, B Smith, Aish, Harwood, Cockatoo (Hipwood, Rice)

The premium backs don't really inspire me this year and Heater's effort last year was a bit of a spike on his past efforst. I'm not willing to gamble that he will back it up. Meanwhile, Yeo, Hibberd and Smith all looked off last year and had decent reasons for being so. The Pies were hugely into Aish and I can't see them letting him rot in the VFL. Harwood has been mentioned as being worth a look on this site and I reckon Cockatoo might be good for an improved year. Hipwood is highly rated and Rice is my floating donut. There is usually a fair bit of variability in backline scoring. I hope to close those 3 holes at opportune moments throughout the season.

C: Pendles, Ablett, J Selwood, Rockliff, Wines, Liberatore, Hopper, Trengove, (Ben Ken, Kerridge, Mathieson)

6 keepers there already and all underpriced IMHO. Wines is about the only one I'm iffy on and would be happy to switch him to a rookie so that I can upgrade forward or back. Plenty of expensive rookie action there to downgrade to free up cash as well. I might be able to get another 50-100k out of it which could, with my current bank, score me another upgrade in the backs or forwards.

R: Jacobs, Grundy (Wyatt)

I'm calling a big year for Brodie Grundy this year. He'll make a good R2 to Sam Jacobs. While Goldy is the standout ruckman in the competition, I can't justify nearly 700k for a ruck. Just waaaaaay too much risk. 600k for Jacobs is bad enough.

F: Bennell, Z Merrett, Christensen, Leuenberger, D Rioli, Petracca (J Pickett, Kommer)

Like in the backline, you can generally get a decent forward at a cut price rate during the year so I've dodged most of the really pricey guys at the start. I think Bennell has the game to back up his scoring from last year, Merrett is the Next Big Thing and Christensen is a lot better than what he's shown to date. Leuey is almost a keeper in his own right but I really want him as a supersub later in the year so will have to fill his position. In the meantime, he should be good for 80PPG at least and if he can stay on the park, is good cover for Grundy/Jacobs.
 
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Left about 128k/rookie
First crack and not liking the forward options too much this year. Plenty of value everywhere else however. May cut Goldy for Jacobs depending on pre seasons. Will Be going balls deep with no intention of ruck cover, mainly due to Goldy/Martin/Sauce being pretty durable.

Very interested to see where the tag goes at the dogs as still don't think Libba can handle it week in week out. Will be jumping on the Bont if it does swing that way.

McVeigh Bartel Yeo Rich + rookies
Pendles Gaz Jelwood Rocky Libba + rookies
Goldy Martin + rook
Lids Dusty Barlow Greene + rookies

Seems quite easy to fit 15 keepers in the starting side this year as everyone will have either/all of Libba/JoM/Crouch.

Going to be a LOT of very similar starting sides this year.
Like this side, as its almost identical to my side at the moment. Early days though and in the end the available rookies will ultimately determine ones structure, but for now I for one like where your heading
 
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Quite the unique-ish looking team that. Any specific reason why you've left Rocky out who i would consider the pick of the midfielders at his starting price.

I'd be interested to hear your hopes/plans with Blicavs, Nicholls and Lynch as they stand out as potential negative POD's down the track.



Yeah that's right RB, first time going so heavy in the mids and as a result pretty much crippled my whole season by starting TBC, Lumumba and Newnes (to a less extent) instead of the top enders. This yeah i think we will definitely see some very midfield heavy teams with all the historical super premo's so cheap.

Last year it was definitely the wrong strategy, this year i'm still undecided...i guess it will widely depend on which good rookies we get and what position they play.
Rocky and Ablett are my first 2 picked, I accidently left Rocky out! I had Blicavs from round 1 last year and I think he can improve on his 104 av despite all the rucks at Geelong. Nicholls will probably be sole ruck so just looking for value there. Maybe look to upgrade to Goldy before byes when he may be cheaper after played the good rucks. Have tinkered a little bit since that post and if I start with those rucks maybe Currie could sit on bench in case Nicholls goes down. I assume he will be back up ruck although it could be Brooksby. Lynch is a gun and I am predicting big things from him this year. (But I have been wrong many times before):eek:

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Rocky and Ablett are my first 2 picked, I accidently left Rocky out! I had Blicavs from round 1 last year and I think he can improve on his 104 av despite all the rucks at Geelong. Nicholls will probably be sole ruck so just looking for value there. Maybe look to upgrade to Goldy before byes when he may be cheaper after played the good rucks. Have tinkered a little bit since that post and if I start with those rucks maybe Currie could sit on bench in case Nicholls goes down. I assume he will be back up ruck although it could be Brooksby. Lynch is a gun and I am predicting big things from him this year. (But I have been wrong many times before):eek:

Cheers IDIG.
No worries Juzzo, im a massive fan of Blicavs, phenomenal athlete and definitely could take the next step next year. After reading KLo's recent analysis I'll be trying to be more open to picking more from the new brigade next year, I'm far too safe with a lot of my picks I think so will be looking for the Nicholls/Lynch types as well :)
 

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DEF: McVeigh, Bartel, Yeo, Smith, Malceski, Brown (Hibberd, Golds)

McVeigh is a good choice as a defender, and despite Bartel aging, he is great value and underpriced due to his injury score of 5. I believe Yeo is in for a break out year as shown by his ability to average 100.1 between round 5-17 this year. Smith is underpriced due to his injury games and I see him getting back to 90+ with more mid time now Danger has gone. Malceski I don't think will get back to his 100+ scoring days, however I see him improving on this year to get back to around 85-95, with the best case scenario resulting in him becoming a premo, however if not, I think he will still make some cash.

MID: GAJ, Selwood, Rockliff, Wines, Liberatore, Crouch, Trengove, Kerridge (Freeman, Morabito, Menegola)

The midfield I have gone for value for money. GAJ is a lock at his price, and i think the addition of Dangerfield will greatly help Jelwood get back to his best. Rockliff is huge value and a definite lock at 550K. Wines is my midfield POD as I think he will breakout in 2016 and become a super elite 115+ player, and presents amazing value priced at an average of 97. Libba and Crouch obviously great value in the 300's, and will make quick cash and possibly even become keepers. Trengove if fit will be a good buy for someone who should go 75+. Kerridge will get more midfield time at Carlton, Freeman will get games, Morabito training to become a half-back but not expecting games just yet so just a placeholder for now, and Menegola is doing well so far in pre-season plus he is mature aged.

RUC: Martin, Naitanui (Chol)

Gone set and forget here, and have decided against paying the $700K for Goldy as I think his average will drop and will be within 5ppg of my chosen ruck men. Reasoning for these 2 is that they have different byes, and both have proven high scoring histories. Naitanui averaged 114.5 between rounds 8-23 which is great value for someone priced 11ppg below that, and Martin has had back to back 110+ seasons, and also averaged 115.1 between round 4-23. If both could average around that 115 mark which they both proved they can in 2015, then I see them getting within 5ppg of Goldy, and being great value. Rookie for the captain loophole.

FWD: Martin, Dahlhaus, Barlow, Leuenberger, Wells, Petracca (Ahern, Adams)

Martin if not suspended should average 105+, and despite the return of Libba, I think Dahlhaus will continue to improve as a player and should still go 100+. Barlow had a very poor year by his standards but i think he can recapture his best form, and even if he doesn't and averages the same as this year I'd take him as an F5/F6 keeper. Leuenberger and Wells present good value as I think both can average around the 85 mark and make some quick cash. Petracca locked in. Ahern has huge talent if he can fit into the GWS side, and Adams is mature aged, should play, and provides the DPP link to defence.
 
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