Opinion Player X vs Player Y

[Ben's Beasts]

Taking the respective prices into consideration:
Fyfe vs Pendlebury vs Selwood?

Of the three I like Pendlebury as he's just so consistent. I'll back him in to increase his average from last year as he was playing injured.

Then I would go with Fyfe as he will be one of the highest scoring players again next year, if not the highest. Even if he does spend a bit of extra time up forward he'll kick a handful of goals per game which will make up for less possessions.

Selwood is my least favourite as he has an ongoing foot injury concern and historically he will have a dip in his scoring at some stage so he should be able to be picked up cheaper than his starting price.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Pendlebury, Stef Martin & Bird
v Wines, Goldstein & Bird
v Wines, Stef Martin & Z Merrett

 

[BomberSam]

Pendlebury, Stef Martin & Bird
v Wines, Goldstein & Bird
v Wines, Stef Martin & Z Merrett

Pendlebury, Big Stef and Bird.

I like Pendlebury more than Wines enough to outweigh that I like Zac Merrett over Bird. Bird could average similar to Merrett, depending on how he fits into our game plan. I believe Goldstein is overpriced and there's no need to pay that much for him, but some will and some won't, but if it means getting Pendles instead of Wines I would say lock it in! Big Stef is a gun!

 

[Grant]

Pendlebury, Stef Martin & Bird
v Wines, Goldstein & Bird
v Wines, Stef Martin & Z Merrett

Craig Bird has had one season averaging over 73. Definitely not worth considering so the third option by default.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Craig Bird has had one season averaging over 73. Definitely not worth considering so the third option by default.

Yep, that's right. Bird averaged 87.9 in 2014 in a team that has a midfield of JPK, Hannebery, Parker, Jack, Mitchell and McVeigh.

I expect him to see a lot more of the ball as part of a much weaker Essendon midfield which could mean he averages enough to be a fwd keeper.

 

[Philzsay]

Craig Bird has had one season averaging over 73. Definitely not worth considering so the third option by default.

Yep, that's right. Bird averaged 87.9 in 2014 in a team that has a midfield of JPK, Hannebery, Parker, Jack, Mitchell and McVeigh.

I expect him to see a lot more of the ball as part of a much weaker Essendon midfield which could mean he averages enough to be a fwd keeper.

Bird has just been running laps and bike work in pre Christmas training so I'd probably keep an eye on when he starts full training before committing to him.

 

[lipsunited]

luey vs sinclair

both at new clubs

thoughts?

 

[Ben's Beasts]

luey vs sinclair

both at new clubs

thoughts?

I prefer Leuey at 100k cheaper.

Should average roughly the same I reckon.

 

[BC]

Leuey f4 - Malceski d4 - Ward m4 v Bennel f4 - Rookie d4 - Beams m4?

 

[Darkie]

Leuey f4 - Malceski d4 - Ward m4 v Bennel f4 - Rookie d4 - Beams m4?

If you think Bennell can play 20+, definitely option 2. Bennell and Beams should be high-end keepers on their line if fit. Ward may or may not be, Leuey is obviously a mid-pricer, and I'm not sure Malceski will get back to keeper level.

 

[Darkie]

Lance Franklin vs Toby Greene + 23k?

 

[Prochard]

Lance Franklin vs Toby Greene + 23k?

Greene +23k easily.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

Greene +23k easily.

Do you see Greene as a potential keeper? What do you think he could average?

 

[Goodie's Guns]

Lance Franklin vs Toby Greene + 23k?

Greene, have had Buddy every year I can remember playing SC. This will be the first year I don't start him. Just too risky for mine.

 

[Darkie]

Greene +23k easily.

Do you see Greene as a potential keeper? What do you think he could average?

Greene, have had Buddy every year I can remember playing SC. This will be the first year I don't start him. Just too risky for mine.

Thanks for your thoughts guys. I have Greene in my draft side and pegged for 19 @ 95, which would make him a slightly weak keeper (for me he's too dear not to keep) - he'd likely be about the 15th forward by average if he did that. This concerns me a bit:

http://www.supercoachscores.com/threads/2766-Rowsus-Tables-And-Analysis-Of-2015-Season/page4

I think Buddy will get more like 18 @ 101, if his back and mental health issues don't flare up ... Enough to rank about 8th.

I have lower than normal confidence in both predictions - both players have wide ranges in their averages (I'm not worried about the week to week "rollercoaster").

I think this could be a year of high SC team scores (given so many cheap high-scoring mids), so I'm looking at ways to get some very top end scoring ability (ie, a very high-ranked average by position) into my side. Greene probably doesn't fit that bill unless he plays near pure mid, but Buddy easily could.

Goodies - in saying that Buddy is too risky, were you concerned with his injuries/mental health problems, the weekly rollercoaster, or something else?

 

[Goodie's Guns]

Goodies - in saying that Buddy is too risky, were you concerned with his injuries/mental health problems, the weekly rollercoaster, or something else?

Yes mate, a combination of all those potential factors is what I was referring to.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

Sloan v Selwood v Wines +$40k

Sloan has a small injury discount built into his price, but may be more exposed this year with Danger gone. Possibly capable of +10 increase in average score in 2016 (from 105 to approx 115).*

Selwood discounted due to a poor (by his standards) 2015. Apparently injured during 2015 and still struggling with a foot (yikes) injury during preseason. Averaged 104.8 from 20 games in *2015 with 10 >104 and 10<90. Will the arrival of Danger help him avoid the tag in 2016? Capable of averaging 115-120, but can he do it again?

Wines averaged 97 in 2015, but if we remove his 2 injury games this is closer to 106 which is a nice progression from his 100 and 74 in the previous 2 years. Has been compared to Selwood and may be capable of averaging 110+ in 2016. Port has a good early draw.

What order would you have them in?

 

[Ben's Beasts]

For a starting side I would order them Wines - Sloane - Selwood

Selwood has his foot injury and interrupted pre-season to deal with and he historically has a dip in his scoring which means he can usually be picked up cheaper than his starting price.

Sloane could be a great pick and certainly comes with a discount but how will he go without Dangerfield and the inevitable extra attention? I am leaning towards a wait and see approach.

Wines comes with a discount due to his injury affected games, Port have a nice early draw and I just feel that he is ready to join the Supercoach elite. I think he has the potential to average 115 - 120 next year.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

^^ thanks Ben. That's pretty much the way I am thinking at the moment also.

Just on Selwood - I know he has a pattern of dropping from his opening price however this is usually from a figure well north of $600k. Given he is stating at about $565k, it will be interesting to see whether there is any significant decrease or whether he just hovers around the same level.

 

[Prochard]

Do you see Greene as a potential keeper? What do you think he could average?

No not necessarily, just really dislike the franklin. Replace Greene with any half decent Supercoach player and Ill say the same.