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Which of the following apply to your current team? (multiple choice)

  • Starting with Libba (no Crouch or JOM)

    Votes: 92 38.7%
  • Starting with Libba + Crouch (no JOM)

    Votes: 69 29.0%
  • Starting with Libba + Crouch + JOM

    Votes: 15 6.3%
  • Full GnR (no mid pricers)

    Votes: 19 8.0%
  • GnR + Libba (1 mid pricer in Libba only)

    Votes: 44 18.5%
  • Set and forget rucks

    Votes: 97 40.8%
  • Ruck cover (R/F in your forwardline)

    Votes: 45 18.9%
  • Spending big (starting 3 or more of Shaw/Fyfe/Goldy/Lids/Joey)

    Votes: 37 15.5%
  • Spending less (starting 1 or less of Shaw/Fyfe/Goldy/Lids/Joey)

    Votes: 70 29.4%
  • I will be starting with all 4 of Fyfe/ Ablett/Pendles/Rockliff

    Votes: 46 19.3%
  • Planning to start a POD no one has spoken about

    Votes: 43 18.1%

  • Total voters
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Your side looks pretty good to me Eagling. In terms of specific comments:

- Your defs are potentially your most risky line. I initially liked Yeo a lot, but cooled on him because (on my calcs) he only averaged low 90s when he played mid, and the Eagles have brought in Redden. See Rowsus' write-up of both Redden and Yeo for why this might be an issue. I also struggle a lot with Rich. He's seven seasons in, and he has a best season of 91 and a second best of 86. I'd rather back someone like KK (who I don't have) to continue to improve than Rich to rise to an acceptable level in his eighth season. If I had to downgrade one player to raise cash, it would be Rich, then Yeo.

- Your mids look fantastic. Not much to say here assuming they're all fit. Fyfe is probably the main one to watch on that front.

- Your rucks are interesting. I have Lobbe, in part because I don't like the vast bulk of the rucks, so I imagine you're thinking similarly given you've gone with him and Blicavs :) Blitz is an interesting one - I think it's worth reading the comments on the Questions for Rowsus page about him. I would tend to agree with Rowsus' sentiment that it's hard to see where he improves. Arguably he has more competition this year in both the ruck and the mids at Geelong, and they're the two areas you want him spending time from an SC scoring perspective. NicNat is the option I've gone with, and he's a very similar price if you elect to look at other alternatives. On Wyatt, it's a minor thing, but my understanding is that M King from Melbourne (there are actually two of them!) is better for loopholing.

- Martin and Barlow both look like good picks to me. Zorko would be in the same camp if not for Rocky/Beams presumably playing more games this year and taking a few points off him. I think he's slightly overpriced as a result, but he is a pretty consistent high scorer, and durable, so if one of the other Brisbane mids goes down, Zorko would be pretty high in my list. [That hasn't happened just yet, although unfortunately with Beams it is probably largely a matter of time.]. Boomer, Tippett and Buddy (for a risky pick) would be the alternatives to Zorko that I'd look at, and they are all cheaper. On Merrett, he's not the type of pick I like, but I get the argument, and he could end up being a good contributor at his price.

- One other thing I noticed is that it looks like you've spent nearly your full complement of cash, and you don't have any expensive rookies. If a $200k bolter pops up, it's not clear to me how you would get him in at this stage. I think it's probably better to put one in as a placeholder for now, or have some extra cash in the bank, so you don't end up missing a really good rookie prospect, or having to do additional trades to get one in. It can also be messy trying to restructure things just before round one lockout to raise cash, although few of us seem to have trouble spending any spare cash that turns up :) An easy way to address this would be to downgrade someone who doesn't look like being a solid keeper on their line. Rich would be an obvious choice given my view on him, but essentially the one you're least keen on would be my suggestion.

As I said, your side looks pretty good to me, so a lot of this is more refinement around the edges, rather than major changes. Good luck.
Thanks for taking the time to look my team over. I agree with you on a lot of points. In defence I've gone with a risky setup; and it is very possible that it will backfire in my face - but last year I played Hibberd @$490k and bought Brodie Smith @ 540k. I don't exactly trust my backline - aside from Bartel - but I believe that I'd be better served risking around $400-450k for a player rather than spending closer to $500k. I'm not saying that you don't raise good points about potential shortcomings, rather that I don't really trust any other Defenders anyway. And I do love a DPP.

The mids pretty much explain themselves, and like me, you seem to like the look of them

Now the Rucks are probably the toughest line. I did pretty poorly overall last year, but I started with Nic Nat and Goldy, and brought Gawn in for cover, so I did alright in the Rucks.

Looking back on how Rucks score from season to season, the odds of Goldy repeating his heroics of 2015 seem to be stacked against him. I do have a nagging niggle that not starting Goldy is a gargantuan misjudgement, but I'm quite likely to give him a miss.

I had Lobbe in 2014, and he underwhelmed for me, but I believe that there is enough upside @$390k to pick him up.

As for Blicavs; there is a toss up between him and Nic Nat. Rowsus analyzed Nic Nat and he seems to score poorly in losses, and West Coast seemingly have a tough start. Now we all know West Coast is going to win by triple figures every single week, but the one thing Blicavs has that Nic Nat lacks is DPP. Say Lobbe is flying and so is Nic Nat; and say Goldy has a string of average games interspliced with a terrible one, because of injury, for instance. With Blicavs I have the potential to upgrade a midfield rookie to Goldy without doing a sideways trade. Additionally, Blicavs seems pretty likely to be the most consistent ruck.

Zorko is probably overpriced, he might be available later on in the season for a better price; and he'll probably score better in the second half of the season, but I want to finish with him, which I can't say for anyone around him. Still, he's probably the most susceptible to a cash generating move to a Buddy or Tippett or Boomer. I could do a similar move with Fyfe to Selwood/Sloane/Priddis, but I'm waiting for the NAB to assess rookies.

Most of all, I'll try to avoid mid-priced traps like Brett Goodes last year's. Having a non-split round will go a long way.

We seem to have pretty similar thoughts on a lot of the selections I've made. If Sinclair/Tippett seem to be the clear No.1 at Sydney, I will consider starting him in place of Zorko, who I'm so much more unforgiving towards despite him being one of my favourite Supercoach Players
 

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Hi guys, my first reveal of the preseason.
Hoping to get some feedback. Obviously rookies are not locked in, need to see some NAB Challenge form etc.
Thanks. :)

 

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Hi guys, my first reveal of the preseason.
Hoping to get some feedback. Obviously rookies are not locked in, need to see some NAB Challenge form etc.
Thanks. :)

I toyed with a team without Libba too and got the exact same structure with the 3-0-5 in the backline. Personally I would just keep Montagna and wait to see if any expensive NAB Challenge rookies pop up. Great team and I wouldn't change a thing tbh.
 

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GG - only comment from me at this stage is the SP of your rookies, with the highest at 144k. Not sure what you have left in the bank but just something to be wary off in case you need to jump on a rookie (s) of higher SP. I'm sure you have a downgrade plan for this scenario without compromising on the current structure.
 

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I toyed with a team without Libba too and got the exact same structure with the 3-0-5 in the backline. Personally I would just keep Montagna and wait to see if any expensive NAB Challenge rookies pop up. Great team and I wouldn't change a thing tbh.
GG - only comment from me at this stage is the SP of your rookies, with the highest at 144k. Not sure what you have left in the bank but just something to be wary off in case you need to jump on a rookie (s) of higher SP. I'm sure you have a downgrade plan for this scenario without compromising on the current structure.
Cheers Tamuhawk, yeah I may just wait and see, appreciate your thoughts.

Yeah I do have a little left over, will be just wait and see. I'll be hoping to get on the cheaper rookies, unless we have a Pat Cripps again.
 
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Hi guys, my first reveal of the preseason.
Hoping to get some feedback. Obviously rookies are not locked in, need to see some NAB Challenge form etc.
Thanks. :)

(Of curiosity) what type of scores are you expecting from your 3 playing back-rookies?
 

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(Of curiosity) what type of scores are you expecting from your 3 playing back-rookies?
The rookies are place-holders atm of course, so don't think that they are the 3 I am starting on ground round 1 haha.

In terms of a general rookie score, I'd be hoping for upward or 60 or 65. I think a lot will be in the same boat this year, and we may have to just take whatever we can get from our DEF rookies.
 
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Hi there,
Thought I would put this one up. Each line has a 200k player on it for the moment not just for points, but for robustness and resilience during those first 8 or so rounds. The three are of course subject to change up until Rd.2 as are the other rookies and premiums to a lesser extent. 49k left leaving some room to manoeuvre rookie swapping in the first couple of rounds. So important to nail the majority of good ones.

Def: Boyd, Simpson, Bartel, Smith, Francis, Brown, M., (Byrne, Hartley)

Mid: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Kennedy, Rockliff, Liberatore, Hopper, Freeman (Keays, Mathieson, Clarke)

Ruc: Martin, Lobbe (Wyatt)

Fwd: Martin, Barlow, Franklin, Anderson, Kerridge, Kommer ( Petracca, Yarran)

Slainte!
 
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Hi there,
Thought I would put this one up. Each line has a 200k player on it for the moment not just for points, but for robustness and resilience during those first 8 or so rounds. The three are of course subject to change up until Rd.2 as are the other rookies and premiums to a lesser extent. 49k left leaving some room to manoeuvre rookie swapping in the first couple of rounds. So important to nail the majority of good ones.

Def: Boyd, Simpson, Bartel, Smith, Francis, Brown, M., (Byrne, Hartley)

Mid: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Kennedy, Rockliff, Liberatore, Hopper, Freeman (Keays, Mathieson, Clarke)

Ruc: Martin, Lobbe (Wyatt)

Fwd: Martin, Barlow, Franklin, Anderson, Kerridge, Kommer ( Petracca, Yarran)

Slainte!
Nice looking team Court.

Personally I am a little worried about Boyd's body holding up this year (purely based on age and Boyd's own assessment of his body in a recent interview).

Looks like you are in the HAVE Franklin brigade and DON'T start GOLDY brigade. Franklin is in and out of my team at the moment but Goldy is a lock.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Anderson as he was touted as future Hawks captain in his first year. Last year was his first year back from illness so I wouldn't be surprised to see him score 75-80.
 
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Hi guys, my first reveal of the preseason.
Hoping to get some feedback. Obviously rookies are not locked in, need to see some NAB Challenge form etc.
Thanks. :)

Love the backline very similar to mine :p

Mids strong. Not sure about Sloane but he does have the runs on the board.

Set and Forget rucks looking good.

Forwards also nothing to fault.
 

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Love the backline very similar to mine :p

Mids strong. Not sure about Sloane but he does have the runs on the board.

Set and Forget rucks looking good.

Forwards also nothing to fault.
Cheers mate, thanks for your thoughts. Sloane is the one I am a little concerned with, I am currently preparing some research into looking at Sloane/Dangerfield/Jacobs and even Laird sort of scenarios. Just to see if there are any trends etc. However, his 2014 season, and the fact he got so many unlucky injuries last year has me so enticed.
 
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Nice looking team Court.

Personally I am a little worried about Boyd's body holding up this year (purely based on age and Boyd's own assessment of his body in a recent interview).

Looks like you are in the HAVE Franklin brigade and DON'T start GOLDY brigade. Franklin is in and out of my team at the moment but Goldy is a lock.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Anderson as he was touted as future Hawks captain in his first year. Last year was his first year back from illness so I wouldn't be surprised to see him score 75-80.
Cheers Slip,

I too am concerned about Boyd but the best laid plans can still be railroaded with LTI's to premiums early; as we learnt last year. Anderson has played with the best team for three years, can play a bit, North chased him, see how he goes. Don't really want to start Franklin, but damned if you do damned if you don't at the moment. Goldy is just way to expensive. Thanks for taking a look.
 
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I've changed my team up slightly.

Any feedback appreciated.

Looks good Slip, backline concerns me a bit but, not much after Bartel. Price of playing two premium rucks I guess.
 
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Looks good Slip, backline concerns me a bit but, not much after Bartel. Price of playing two premium rucks I guess.
On slip's team it's the lack of Libba and taking both of Lids and Dal causing more of a stretch than Goldy

wouldnt be hard for that team to keep Goldy but still fix D4 if fixing D4 was required.
 
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On slip's team it's the lack of Libba and taking both of Lids and Dal causing more of a stretch than Goldy

wouldnt be hard for that team to keep Goldy but still fix D4 if fixing D4 was required.
It seems to be a risk he is taking not playing Liberatore, but going against the grain may be fruitful.

Personally, the 2 premium ruck, particularly Goldy upsets team balance; well at least mine. He just costs too much.
 
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Hi guys, my first reveal of the preseason.
Hoping to get some feedback. Obviously rookies are not locked in, need to see some NAB Challenge form etc.
Thanks. :)

Looks the goods Goodies, no Liberatore a good risk, 2 premium rucks, 14 cast iron premiums. I guess you have sfa in the bank. If you can nail the rookies, be a great team. No list cloggers here.
 

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Looks the goods Goodies, no Liberatore a good risk, 2 premium rucks, 14 cast iron premiums. I guess you have sfa in the bank. If you can nail the rookies, be a great team. No list cloggers here.
Cheers mate, all those points you listed are exactly what I am/was going for. So here's hoping I nail the rookies. :)
 
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Finally got on here and spent the last little time making my first team.


DEF: Laird, Murphy, KK, B.Smith, Brown, Elton (rookie, rookie).

MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Rockliff, Liberatore, B.Crouch, Freeman, K.Lucas (rookie, rookie, rookie).

RUCK: Martin, Nicholls (Grimley).

FOR: Martin, Bennell, Barlow, Franklin, Kommer, Naismith (rookie, rookie).


- Pretty confident in 13 premiums.
- 3 players who could produce premium scores.
- All the rookies don't mean much at this point and are just filling the spots.
- Staying a little light in defence with just one player over 500k (same as last season).
- Fully loaded midfield and strong forward line.
- Rucks were hurting my brain and i'm not sold on either yet.

115k in the bank.
 
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