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[Darkie]

My team has been stable for weeks now, so I'd be interested in the community's thoughts.

Wells and above are intended selections, Simpkins and below are largely placeholders - although I have intentionally gone for some dearer rookie picks for now.

Def: Simpson, Bartel, Smith + 5 rookies

Mid: Ablett, Pendles, Rocky, Danger, JPK, Libba, Simpkin + 4 rookies

Ruck: NicNat, Lobbe, M King

Fed: Dusty, Barlow, Boomer, Tippett, Wells + 3 rookies

I have three rookies around $150k, plus $115k in cash.

What would you suggest? All thoughts welcome

 

[freowho]

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I think he will be a bad pick. It could be because i am a bit of a pessimist but i don't see much upside. The last 2 years he's lined up for round 1 and he's managed to play 5 games straight in 2014 and 2 games straight in 2015. I get the feeling it's just a matter of time before he gets another leg/foot/calf/achilles/ankle injury.

I think he's a dodgy pick also because of his role. His best years were as a first choice rolls royce midfielder. Those spots have now been filled by younger players. A bit like expecting Andrew Swallow to return to a 110 player when he now does job share with Ben Cunnington. I think he will be good for North but probably as a half forward kicking some goals and drifting up to the wing. I would expect 75-85. If there's a lack of cash cows I'll put him in my team.

 

[Maccas marvels]

My team has been stable for weeks now, so I'd be interested in the community's thoughts.

Wells and above are intended selections, Simpkins and below are largely placeholders - although I have intentionally gone for some dearer rookie picks for now.

Def: Simpson, Bartel, Smith + 5 rookies

Mid: Ablett, Pendles, Rocky, Danger, JPK, Libba, Simpkin + 4 rookies

Ruck: NicNat, Lobbe, M King

Fed: Dusty, Barlow, Boomer, Tippett, Wells + 3 rookies

I have three rookies around $150k, plus $115k in cash.

What would you suggest? All thoughts welcome

Like the midfield with 6 keepers- would take Simpkin out as he is not a noted SuperCoach performer and replace with mills from Sydney for eg.

Rucks light on- swap Nic Nat to sandi, Martin type. Lobbe good for stepping stone towards Goldstein if u can build cash. Boomer swapped for Bennell in forward line, think boomer may start to decline this year.

 

[Maccas marvels]

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Keen to hear thoughts on first cut of team, rookies names only until we see the nab cup

Be grateful to hear what fellow SuperCoach forum members think of my team and any changes I should make...

 

[FirstTimer]

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I think he will be a bad pick. It could be because i am a bit of a pessimist but i don't see much upside. The last 2 years he's lined up for round 1 and he's managed to play 5 games straight in 2014 and 2 games straight in 2015. I get the feeling it's just a matter of time before he gets another leg/foot/calf/achilles/ankle injury.

Hi Anfa ,

With regards to Wells was i right in reading somewhere this has been his first full pre-season in 2 years , i mean as a roo boy does he he have the talent to do well or is he just an average footballer , and noticed a lot of coaches have Wines in there team but i would prefer Parker to him ..... your thoughts on this to please

 

[BC]

Like the even balance of this side.
happy with the higher priced rookies i've managed to squeeze in the midfield and fwd line.
Think most premiums i've gone with can be top 8 in there positions, defence hard to be 100% happy with as it's such an inconsistent line.
Only going one of the Smith/Yeo/Rich types is the way to go for me but who knows how these blokes will go.
Seeing Tippet look to be the no1 ruck yesterday and looking back at his second half of last year i think i'll go with him to get to goldy.
Thoughts welcome cheers

 

[Ricky Bobby]

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Be grateful to hear what fellow SuperCoach forum members think of my team and any changes I should make...

Hi Macca. A few quick observations as follows:

DEF: Yeo & Smith make me very nervous. I have worked hard to remove both from my team. I think I read somewhere that Otten is injured. I'm not sure the WCE Brown is relevant - perhaps replace him with the Ess Brown.

MID: Looks strong, but probably bats a bit deep for my liking. Consider moving Wells & Kerridge to the Fwd line and replace with must have rookies.

RUC: Looks good

FWD: Prems look good. I don't know much about Menzle. Probably not room for Menz and Wells, so chose the best one and drop the other. Move Brown to Def and replace with Kerridge.

Rookies: In general, you have a lot of min price rookies on your bench. Not sure if this will get you the best result so you may need to free up some cash to boost these rookies (dropping one of Menz/Wells may help with this).

I hope this helps

 

[anfa18]

Hi Anfa ,

With regards to Wells was i right in reading somewhere this has been his first full pre-season in 2 years , i mean as a roo boy does he he have the talent to do well or is he just an average footballer , and noticed a lot of coaches have Wines in there team but i would prefer Parker to him ..... your thoughts on this to please

It does sound about right that it has been his first uninterrupted pre-season in 2 years. Personally i don't think he's lived up to the potential he showed early in his career. I remember years ago, he was almost like Pendlebury, where the game seemed to slow down when he had the ball, but they have been few and far between in recent years. I have personal SC rules that i try to follow and he doesn't pass rule 15.
15. Avoid players aged 30+ returning from injury.

Parker is an interesting one. He's been around longer than the likes of Wines and T.Mitchell. Sydney has a very strong midfield with JPK, Hannebery, Parker, Mitchell, Jack and others floating through. I'm not sure how he would be able to reach a 110+ average this season.

Rowsus has a really good analasys of lots of players including Wines and Parker. http://www.supercoachscores.com/threads/2766-Rowsus-Tables-And-Analysis-Of-2015-Season

 

[THCLT]

I have personal SC rules that i try to follow and he doesn't pass rule 15. Avoid players aged 30+ returning from injury.

I have a few SC rules myself and usually have a couple at the start of the season which I'll try to follow religiously for the duration of the season.

I don't think I've come across another coach which has a rule list which goes as deep as #15, you must be a very discipline coach.

 

[anfa18]

I have a few SC rules myself and usually have a couple at the start of the season which I'll try to follow religiously for the duration of the season.

I don't think I've come across another coach which has a rule list which goes as deep as #15, you must be a very discipline coach.

LoL my list goes all the way down to 28. I got the list from someone here a couple of years ago and have updated it many times. Some rules i follow 100% and some are more of a guideline.

5. Avoid having too many players from same team.
10. Avoid players with interrupted preseasons.
14. Jump on rookies that demonstrate a high ceiling during NAB.
24. Pick durable players that don't miss games.

Some are pretty obvious but it's always good to have a reminder.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

LoL my list goes all the way down to 28. I got the list from someone here a couple of years ago and have updated it many times. Some rules i follow 100% and some are more of a guideline.

5. Avoid having too many players from same team.
10. Avoid players with interrupted preseasons.
14. Jump on rookies that demonstrate a high ceiling during NAB.
24. Pick durable players that don't miss games.

Some are pretty obvious but it's always good to have a reminder.

You probably only have about 30 players left after applying all the rules, so it's probably a pretty handy way of choosing a good team

 

[anfa18]

You probably only have about 30 players left after applying all the rules, so it's probably a pretty handy way of choosing a good team

Hahaha there are always allowances for certain premium players... cough Ablett cough cough

 

[THCLT]

My team has been stable for weeks now, so I'd be interested in the community's thoughts.

Wells and above are intended selections, Simpkins and below are largely placeholders - although I have intentionally gone for some dearer rookie picks for now.

Def: Simpson, Bartel, Smith + 5 rookies

Mid: Ablett, Pendles, Rocky, Danger, JPK, Libba, Simpkin + 4 rookies

Ruck: NicNat, Lobbe, M King

Fed: Dusty, Barlow, Boomer, Tippett, Wells + 3 rookies

I have three rookies around $150k, plus $115k in cash.

What would you suggest? All thoughts welcome

Your team is obviously built and centred around starting with a deep and strong midfield line. There's nothing wrong with this strategy and I feel that it's quite common amongst the more astute coaches as there seems to be a lot of value in that particular line of our team. As I believe you're well aware, the trick is not to how to arrive at that strong and deep midfield, but how do we build a balance team with the remaining funds around that chosen line.

DEF: Good and safe enough structure provided that we get, as expected, 5 good rookies which will be playing regularly during the first third of the season.

RUC: This setup would be fine IF Lobbe was akin to the Blicavs version of 2015 or the Sandilands version of 2014. However, the general consensus is that Lobbe is anything but and I don't see how or if he can return to the form of 2014. Most non-Goldy teams which I've seen, are choosing to start with 2 relatively safer options with the hope of sacrificing one to get Goldy after round 6. I understand that your plan is to turn Lobbe into Goldy when the time is right, but I just worry that you may have to scramble sooner rather than later and this may derail your season.

FWD: Probably just as strong as your midfield with Wells at F5.

In a nutshell, I think you've done well looking at other parts of your team, however, your ruck line is an obvious weakness.

My suggestion would be...

I think having all of Libba, Simpkin, Wells, plus 3 x 150k rookies is a little on the excessive side of things. I would downgrade those 150 rookies down to 120k rookies for now, giving you an extra 90k on top of your 115k in the bank, total 205k. With these extra cash injection, you can turn Lobbe into any ruck up to Martin, giving you a much more safer and stronger ruck line without compromising your team structure.

That would make your team one of the better non-Goldy teams I've seen around the traps, with potentially 14 Keepers plus Libba.

 

[Prochard]

Like the even balance of this side.
happy with the higher priced rookies i've managed to squeeze in the midfield and fwd line.
Think most premiums i've gone with can be top 8 in there positions, defence hard to be 100% happy with as it's such an inconsistent line.
Only going one of the Smith/Yeo/Rich types is the way to go for me but who knows how these blokes will go.
Seeing Tippet look to be the no1 ruck yesterday and looking back at his second half of last year i think i'll go with him to get to goldy.
Thoughts welcome cheers
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Like the Wingard and Tippett pick. However, I would rather downgrade Wells to a rookie and upgrade Zorko to Deledio. Also prefer Birchall over Simpson. Overall, nice team.

 

[Darkie]

My team has been stable for weeks now, so I'd be interested in the community's thoughts.

Wells and above are intended selections, Simpkins and below are largely placeholders - although I have intentionally gone for some dearer rookie picks for now.

Def: Simpson, Bartel, Smith + 5 rookies

Mid: Ablett, Pendles, Rocky, Danger, JPK, Libba, Simpkin + 4 rookies

Ruck: NicNat, Lobbe, M King

Fed: Dusty, Barlow, Boomer, Tippett, Wells + 3 rookies

I have three rookies around $150k, plus $115k in cash.

What would you suggest? All thoughts welcome

Like the midfield with 6 keepers- would take Simpkin out as he is not a noted SuperCoach performer and replace with mills from Sydney for eg.

Rucks light on- swap Nic Nat to sandi, Martin type. Lobbe good for stepping stone towards Goldstein if u can build cash. Boomer swapped for Bennell in forward line, think boomer may start to decline this year.

Thanks for your thoughts Macca.

I honk you're probably right about Simpkin. I've kept him in part because he's high-priced, but Mills looks increasingly interesting after a good NAB game in a role that might be more sustainable than I'd thought in a Swans side with a strong midfield. I might do as you suggest there.

I think NN should outscore Sandi, and play more games than Martin. I think the rucks are really tough this year, in terms of finding options I like - everyone seems to be overpriced/not durable/has a tough draw, etc! I have considered Sandi and Jacobs as alternatives though, especially if Naitainui isn't fit going into round one.

I'll keep an eye on Boomer as well. Bennell is a bit flaky for my liking, but he could certainly be a top scorer when he is on the park. I think he's under a cloud at the moment as well, but I'll bear in mind your thoughts on Harvey. Thanks again!

 

[Darkie]

Thanks for your detailed comments Thanh, very thoughtful.

I agree with your comments on the midfield. The strong mids is an outcome of my selections rather than something I have aimed for per se. The last change I made was to cut McVeigh given his injury concerns, and Danger was the best additional premium available, so I ended up quite strong in the middle. It also seems that the forward and defence rookies are somewhat better (or at least, the mid rookies less dominant) than other years.

I think your comments about the ruck line are fair. NicNat is the only premium ruck I like given price, draw, durability, etc, so Lobbe has got a spot as a stepping stone largely for that reason. I think he should easily outscore his price (72) and don't expect him to hit his 2014 levels (low 100s), but if he splits the difference as I currently expect, I'll take that and upgrade to a hopefully cheaper Goldy when possible. The risk is that Lobbe doesn't rise or Goldy doesn't drop, and if Lobbe plays poorly in the NAB that might be a significant risk!

Your suggested alternative is a good one, although I would probably have to take someone I'm not happy with, given my comments above. One other option I have recently considered is switching Tippett to R2 initially, and bringing in another forward - likely Buddy. I would then switch Tippett back once Goldy/another ruck became attractive enough (Jacobs draw opens up/he becomes cheap, etc). Tippett no longer helps facilitate ruck cover early on in that scenario, so that reduces his value marginally, although Buddy is much more likely to be a keeper than Lobbe, so that could be a better alternative overall. What do you think about that idea?

 

[DMCC10]

DEF: Bartel, Birchall, Aish, Francis, Brown, Broad (Hartley, William)
MID: GAJ, Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Fyfe, Rockliff, Liberatore, Crouch, Mills (Cuningham, Petracca, Mathieson)
RUC: Goldstein, Gawn (Grimley)
FWD: Martin, Westhoff, Barlow, Wells, Simpkin, Kerridge (Adams, AMT)

 

[THCLT]

Your suggested alternative is a good one, although I would probably have to take someone I'm not happy with, given my comments above. One other option I have recently considered is switching Tippett to R2 initially, and bringing in another forward - likely Buddy. I would then switch Tippett back once Goldy/another ruck became attractive enough (Jacobs draw opens up/he becomes cheap, etc). Tippett no longer helps facilitate ruck cover early on in that scenario, so that reduces his value marginally, although Buddy is much more likely to be a keeper than Lobbe, so that could be a better alternative overall. What do you think about that idea?

I think I'd rather start with Buddy over Lobbe so that would be a better approach, especially if Sam Grimley gets a start for round 1 so you can have him in your forward line as your R/F cover.

 

[Rickwood]

LoL my list goes all the way down to 28. I got the list from someone here a couple of years ago and have updated it many times. Some rules i follow 100% and some are more of a guideline.

5. Avoid having too many players from same team.
10. Avoid players with interrupted preseasons.
14. Jump on rookies that demonstrate a high ceiling during NAB.
24. Pick durable players that don't miss games.

Some are pretty obvious but it's always good to have a reminder.

I assume Rule No 1 is Double Tap, and Rule No 2 is Cardio. Or is it the other way around

 

[PowerBrokers]

Hi PowerBrokers - a few thoughts on your side:

- Pendles was playing injured in the latter part of last year (couldn't kick it 50 at times) , so I would bear that in mind in how you are assessing him. Treloar is also under a cloud, although hopefully that's a reasonably short-term thing, so that concern may still apply for much of the season. Personally, I think its hard to see one of the best players in the comp pushed out of our midfield, but I know there is a range of views on this. Your mids look good anyway. What do you expect Wines to average?

- Your backline is one area I would probably try to make more solid. Gibson looks fairly fully priced based on his history and hasn't scored at keeper level for a full season yet, Birchall is usually one rung below the top defs, and McGovern is not proven. Perhaps you could take one or two of those players instead of all three? The defence is the line to take risks historically, but obviously the less risk you can take, the better in most cases. None of those three players is durable, so you may find yourself using your rookies more than you'd like, and def rookies are usually the poorest scorers. Simpson looks a very solid pick to me, so he might be an option for you. Also, I'm not sure if Brown (WC) is just a placeholder (my rookies still are!) but his scoring history and durability would suggest he's a non-starter unless his role has changed.

- I like NicNat, assuming he's fit, and have him in my side. I would be keen on Martin but he has a poor history of getting on the park. I note you have no obvious ruck cover, so this would be something to think about. I plan to use Tippett for that purpose at this stage, but mainly because I think he's a potentially good pick on a standalone basis. You could simply go for a more durable option, although Jacobs has a tough draw early, and Goldy is overpriced in my view - so the ruck line remains tough as I see it! I gather one of the M Kings is seen as the best donut option at R3, if that's what you're going for.

- Your forward line looks pretty good to me. Dusty and Barlow for solid picks, Buddy for value and potential ceiling. I'm not sure about Cockatoo, although he again may be a placeholder. I generally dislike Cats (and Hawks, Swans and Dockers) rookies as they rarely seem to get a good run given the strength of internal competition, and from what I can tell he has no record of scoring well. I'd consider upgrading him to Wells, who should easily outscore him, and will (I think) make you at least as much cash.

- A minor comment given where we are this season, but it looks like not many of your rookies have good DPP utility at this stage. No doubt your rookies will change, but it's something I will be keeping an eye on.

Good luck!

Thanks for your detailed review Darkie! Love the wing-by-wing analysis.

Interesting comment on Pendles - I didn't realise that he was playing with a continuous niggling injury the entire 2nd half of 2015. That would explain a lot.
I've double checked last year, and he *only* averaged 112 for his last 9 games last season. Although that's pretty superb for a normal player - he's priced at 116, and I think that with Sydney & Richmond as 2/3 first games, he'll lose some initial value.

I agree with you on Gibson - he's full priced - but with Brian Lake retired I think he could shoulder more of the defense load, and will become more SC relevant with more rebounds from the 50.
He is priced at 90.7, and has produced a full season at 89.5, and 2/3 of a season at 92.5. I'd be picking him more for the odd 120+ score which he is fully capable, but I am wary of his pathetic 50 scores he duds up time to time. His main issue is durability as you've highlighted however, so I think that I'll grab a Simpson instead.
What do you think about swapping McGovern into Rance?

Thanks for your comments on Cockatoo too - I have been heavily toying with the idea of Wells or a $180k rookie, and I'm not sure which one will produce that healthy balance of points vs cash generation!

Thanks again, appreciate the review!