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[Courtesans]

Like many on here, I spent the majority of my day yesterday pouring over the NAB stats, going through the many iteration and evolution of my starting team, and going back to my lists of Top 10's and 'speculative' watch list. This is my team currently on the SuperCoach website, built with a mix of true premiums, speculative & value picks, on-field rookies with decent scoring potential and job security, and bench rookies with decent job security. As I alluded to in my recent post under the Team Structure thread, I'm finding it very difficult to settle on a particular combination so this is likely to be fluid up to the very last minute!

D: Bartel, Williams, Sheridan, Lonergan, Dea, AMT (Hartley, Adams)
M: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Libba, B Crouch, Mills, Bennedy (Menadue, Gresham, Davis)
R: Goldy, NN (Loersch)
F: Barlow, Robinson, Buddy, Hall, Wells, Kerridge (McCarthy, M Brown)

$81,400 left over for rookie corrections

Rookies aside, the evolution of the above team can be summarised as follows:

Stalwart (8): Bartel, Sheridan, Fyfe, Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Goldy, Barlow
In & Out (4): Williams, Lonergan, Buddy, Hall
First Timer (4): Libba, B Crouch, NN, Robinson

Bit speculative for my liking THCLT.
Having all three of Williams, Sheridan and Lonergan is probably a bit a much. Personally, I like Lonergan of the three.
First side I have seen with Brad Crouch in it, hasn't played for a long time. Currently I have gone with his brother after a solid NAB series.
NicNat doesn't do enough around the ground for me.
Like the Robinson pick, wont die wondering with him, nut case going for the ball. Buddy, who knows..
Personally I prefer your other approach, mostly GNR with a couple of spec picks.

 

[BomberSam]

I really like this team. I like the fact you have 3 FWD keepers at the moment. Have gone a little lighter with the rookies leaving out oliver in the mids and dea in the backline. Nice and balanced though. I personally am big on taking in currie. I believe he will play most games and make a nice price increase. I see him as free money really, considering Goldy/gawn/martin are very reliable. I prefer Hurn over B smith. Both have upside, however i think b.smith is more of a risk. All in all great effort!

Thanks mate! I have a few ideas of how I could use the extra money. In order of preference.

1. If I can find 23k, I'll go Wines to Priddis in a heartbeat.

2. Smith to a Birchall type.

3. Grimley to Currie (thanks for the idea). How much more cash do you expect he will make than Grimley?

4. Brown to Dea.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

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Bam. 1.7k left

If you can find a way to turn McKenzie into Bartel without ruining the rest of it then I would really like this team.

Risky rucks but running with Z Smith and planning on upgrading him to a premium ruck does have its merits.

 

[The Experiment]

Thoughts on this would be appreciated:

DEF: H. Shaw, B. Houli, R. Laird, J. Johannisen, M. Dea, M. Hartley (A. McDonald-Tipungwuti, M. Adams)
MID: N. Fyfe, P. Dangerfield, M. Priddis, T. Rockliff, D. Wells, C. Mills, C. Oliver, S. Kerridge (D. Gore, B. Keays, R. Davis)
RUC: T. Goldstein, M. Gawn (S. Grimley)
FWD: D. Martin, M. Barlow, A. Hall, J. Simpkin, B. Kennedy, C. Menadue (L. McCarthy, M. Brown)

$112,200 left in the bank.

Could be one of the best teams I have seen personally, so much so I want to go away and manually add up your salary cap spend!

You've obviously saved a bit of cash by only going a four premo mid, but I dont think it detracts from your team at all - great job

 

[aj74]

If you can find a way to turn McKenzie into Bartel without ruining the rest of it then I would really like this team.

Risky rucks but running with Z Smith and planning on upgrading him to a premium ruck does have its merits.

Thanks BB.

Yeah I dunno how I can get Bartel into that squad. Would have to downgrade Libba or 2 of the 200k players to do it.

McKenzie has the attributes needed for a good SC game. Just needs to bring it to the park. Has had a good preseason, so it's fingers crossed and away we go

Zac Smith to go to Goldstein around round 7

 

[Chasing]

Thanks mate! I have a few ideas of how I could use the extra money. In order of preference.

1. If I can find 23k, I'll go Wines to Priddis in a heartbeat.

2. Smith to a Birchall type.

3. Grimley to Currie (thanks for the idea). How much more cash do you expect he will make than Grimley?

4. Brown to Dea.

Currie IMO will make substantially more than Grimley. Currie played the first 2 nab games for a 71 and a 90. Grimley played all three for scores of 46 30 and 31. He never found his place at hawthorn in the 5 years he was there. He is generally considered a fwd but struggled in that roll even at boxhill. Not a natural ruckman either. Currie on the other hand is a natural ruckman and was starved behind goldy. Now that he is at the suns he should have that second command post sown up. Interchange caps mean himself and nichols will pinch hit. For the extra 40k I feel he will make at least 100k more than grimley and in quicker fashion too.

 

[BomberSam]

Currie IMO will make substantially more than Grimley. Currie played the first 2 nab games for a 71 and a 90. Grimley played all three for scores of 46 30 and 31. He never found his place at hawthorn in the 5 years he was there. He is generally considered a fwd but struggled in that roll even at boxhill. Not a natural ruckman either. Currie on the other hand is a natural ruckman and was starved behind goldy. Now that he is at the suns he should have that second command post sown up. Interchange caps mean himself and nichols will pinch hit. For the extra 40k I feel he will make at least 100k more than grimley and in quicker fashion too.

Do you expect that he will play every week?

 

[Chasing]

Do you expect that he will play every week?

I would think so, he is a very talented player.

 

[Zimmer]

I'm getting to the point where I feel I'm going to stuff around with my team too much if the season doesn't start soon. Here are two recent versions:

Version 1:
Shaw, Laird, Bartel, Lonergan, Brown, Hartley (Broad, Ruggles)
Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Rockliff, Wines, Mills, Menadue, Gresham (Hibberd, Payne, Davis)
Goldy, Jacobs (Grimley)
Martin, Barlow, ZMerrett, Wells, BKennedy, Kerridge (Cox, AMT)

Version 2:

Laird, Simpson, Bartel, Lonergan, Brown, Hartley (Broad, Ruggles)
Fyfe, Danger, Pendles, Ablett, Rockliff, Mills, Menadue, Gresham, (Hibberd, Payne, Davis)
Goldy, Gawn (King)
Martin, Barlow, Hall, Wells, BKennedy, Kerridge, (Cox, AMT)

I've bolded the differences between the two.
Obviously ZMerrett could also be Hall in team 1 as Gawn could replace Jacobs in Team 1. Same with Grimley/King as R/F.

So I guess in the end it's Shaw, Wines v Simpson, Ablett.

Thanks for any feedback.

 

[Max Power]

DEF: Langdon, M. Johnson, Hurn, Dea, Hartley, AMT (Adams, Ruggles)
MID: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Blicavs, Mills, Oliver, Kerridge (Menadue, Keays, Davis)
RUC: Martin, Gawn (Grimley)
FWD: Barlow, S. Gray, Franklin, Greene, Wells, Kennedy (McCarthy, Brown)

Remaining cash: $145,200

Decided to go with no Libba after a long deliberation, too many unknowns for someone costing $357,300 (he'd be straight in if he was south of $300k). At his cost, I'm not really sure what to classify him as. A stepping stone seems a bit of an insult to someone of his calibre, but then again, if you are calling him a keeper then you wouldn't want him losing too many points relative to the top 15 or so midfielders come the end of the season, but who's to say he won't be right up there with these blokes? Well me for starters... but I can certainly appreciate the opposing case.

Mid-priced midfielders are always an entertaining debate, remember Moloney (2013), and then Daisy last year? Big calls!

 

[Zimmer]

DEF: Langdon, M. Johnson, Hurn, Dea, Hartley, AMT (Adams, Ruggles)
MID: Fyfe, Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Ablett, Blicavs, Mills, Oliver, Kerridge (Menadue, Keays, Davis)
RUC: Martin, Gawn (Grimley)
FWD: Barlow, S. Gray, Franklin, Greene, Wells, Kennedy (McCarthy, Brown)

Remaining cash: $145,200

Decided to go with no Libba after a long deliberation, too many unknowns for someone costing $357,300 (he'd be straight in if he was south of $300k). At his cost, I'm not really sure what to classify him as. A stepping stone seems a bit of an insult to someone of his calibre, but then again, if you are calling him a keeper then you wouldn't want him losing too many points relative to the top 15 or so midfielders come the end of the season, but who's to say he won't be right up there with these blokes? Well me for starters... but I can certainly appreciate the opposing case.

Mid-priced midfielders are always an entertaining debate, remember Moloney (2013), and then Daisy last year? Big calls!

Your defence immediately concerns me - too many speculative picks. Everything you say about Libba is happening on your defensive line twofold. Think Newnes last year. Think you need to find some cash - or use some some of that $145 K. to shore it up a bit with another Premo at least.

Otherwise looks pretty solid. Like the pick of Blicavs, and a relatively unique forward line.

 

[Rowsus]

Currie IMO will make substantially more than Grimley. Currie played the first 2 nab games for a 71 and a 90. Grimley played all three for scores of 46 30 and 31. He never found his place at hawthorn in the 5 years he was there. He is generally considered a fwd but struggled in that roll even at boxhill. Not a natural ruckman either. Currie on the other hand is a natural ruckman and was starved behind goldy. Now that he is at the suns he should have that second command post sown up. Interchange caps mean himself and nichols will pinch hit. For the extra 40k I feel he will make at least 100k more than grimley and in quicker fashion too.

Big call! didn't he win the VFL goal kicking two seasons in a row?!

 

[Chasing]

Big call! didn't he win the VFL goal kicking two seasons in a row?!

Kicked 46 goals in 2015 and 45 goals in 2014. Been on hawthorns list since 2011/2012 if memory serves me well. Played a total of three games for hawthorn in 2015 for 3 goals. He was given ample opportunity in 2014/2015 nab cup trials if i recall, and looked horribly out of place. I may be wrong, however i wont be picking him. I am by no means a wizard supercoach king though haha

 

[Chasing]

On a side note question for you Rowsus, do you personally thinking leaving 125k behind in the kitty is too much?

 

[Rowsus]

On a side note question for you Rowsus, do you personally thinking leaving 125k behind in the kitty is too much?

Not if you are happy with your team. I generally think that can be one of the biggest last minute mistakes Coaches can make. They are sitting on a little cash reserve, and change player X to player Y, just because they can. 9 out of 10 times you should have just trusted why you had X in, and Y out in the first place. If you can't make what you can see to be a significant improvement with that cash, then just hold onto it, no problem!

 

[Courtesans]

Not if you are happy with your team. I generally think that can be one of the biggest last minute mistakes Coaches can make. They are sitting on a little cash reserve, and change player X to player Y, just because they can. 9 out of 10 times you should have just trusted why you had X in, and Y out in the first place. If you can't make what you can see to be a significant improvement with that cash, then just hold onto it, no problem!

Words of wisdom here. If you have 100K left and are happy go with it, if you have 7K left and are likewise happy, so it goes.

 

[_Slip_]

D: Shaw Houli Johannisen Weitering Hartley M.Brown (AMT Ruggles)

M: Fyfe Dangerfield Ablett Priddis Rockliff B.Crouch Mills Menadue* (Gresham Keays Davis)

R: Goldstein Gawn* (Goetz)

F: Deledio Barlow Hall Wells McCarthy* Kerridge* (Adams Papley)

Bank $19,700

Ruggles Papley and Davis subject to upgrade.

All rookies/players subject to selection round 1.

Still considered downgrading Lids to Chop Sticks and downgrading Houli to Laird to upgrade Johannisen to Bartel.

B.Kennedy is not on my radar as I feel his JS is shaky especially with Petracca to return rd 3-5.

Any comments appreciated.

 

[aleceee]

I'm fairly happy with my team, just want some advice.

DEF:Houli, Laird, Bartel, Smith, Brown, Hartley (Collins, Ruggles)

MID:Fyfe, Danger, GAJ, Rockliff, Libba, Mills, Gresham, Gore (Keays, Hibberd, Davis)

RUC:Goldstein, Gawn (Grimley)

FWD:Martin, Barlow, Gray, Hall, Wells, Kerridge (Payne, AMT)

 

[Chasing]

Thanks very much for the reply, i appreciate your wisdom. I am stuck with my side of course atm. Not really sold on the defence but i am happy with my mids and fwds with ruck too. I currently have Dea at d4, would much prefer that be a premium but if i run with libba then i sacrafice that d4 spot..

 

[Zimmer]

Big call! didn't he win the VFL goal kicking two seasons in a row?!

He'll be played forward at Essendon. My concern is not so much his ability - as he seems to be ok on the lead and have a good set of hands - but our abysmal delivery into the forward line. It's been bad for years, and I don't see how it can get better in the situation we're in.

I'd like to have seen him and Daniher play together a bit more in the pre-season, as I think it could work ok, but that said, I don't know whether being chop out for Joey will necessarily help his scoring either.

I still may use him - but if I can find a more promising R/F I'd go with them.