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If am I selecting my side based on winning league matches am I better off selecting someone like a Priddis & JPK over Fyfe & Ablett due to the superior game count of the first two?

I always start out the season looking to do well overall but I am going to change it up this season as I am in 5-6 cash leagues and want to win those compared to trying to finish high overall.

any thoughts or suggestions or where I should be looking if this question has been asked before.

thanks.
I think durability counts in leagues. I'd employ this if you doubt the game count of Fyfe and Ablett.
 

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I think durability counts in leagues. I'd employ this if you doubt the game count of Fyfe and Ablett.
Yep trades/picking durable players is king in league games. Fyfe/Ablett are still musts imo as their ability to go massive as a POD/POD captain will mean you're next to no chance when they do go huge (and you don't have them).
 

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If am I selecting my side based on winning league matches am I better off selecting someone like a Priddis & JPK over Fyfe & Ablett due to the superior game count of the first two?

I always start out the season looking to do well overall but I am going to change it up this season as I am in 5-6 cash leagues and want to win those compared to trying to finish high overall.

any thoughts or suggestions or where I should be looking if this question has been asked before.

thanks.
A couple of other thoughts that might help:

- You need your players playing the finals in particular. General reliability helps, but I suspect teams like the Hawks and Freo will still selectively rest players late in the year, which could mean you are one premium down during league finals. The week off after the final round of the home and away season should help a lot, but I'd still guess that this is an issue for some teams. History should be a good guide as to which clubs do this, and which players get rested (generally older ones, I'd suggest).

- You want an easy draw during the finals, so your players score at their best when it is most important. I would assume that you will easily make finals, and the higher your ladder position the better, but it's very frustrating to finish your league in 1st place, but then get knocked out because someone's POD beats up on a very weak side. Clearly the league grand final week is most important.

- Potentially tilt your team towards the very highest scorers, rather than emphasising upgrading ASAP. Ladder position helps, but ultimately you need to simply make the finals, and then minimise your chances of losing them. Having the very highest scorers at the end of the year could be key, even if it takes you an extra few rounds to reach a fully upgraded team. I assume you will easily make finals, so the focus should largely be on optimising your end of season team, not getting to it quickly. If you do fall behind and need to jag unexpected wins, you can always pick PODs who can go huge (maybe Buddy types) and cross your fingers.

- Fairly obviously, keep an eye on your trades! :) Good luck.
 
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Quick question Re: the live pass (not sure if this has already been answered), got it activated on my missus' Telstra account, is there any way to stream it through a PC, or is it strictly for Mobile and iPad only? I've tried to find a Android emulator as a temporary workaround but finding it to be too much effort.
 

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Interesting Herald Sun article about players giving fantasy advice.

AN UNKNOWN Power rookie and young Swan could become breakout SuperCoach stars if their teammates are to be believed.

Several AFL stars have revealed their SuperCoach tips to the AFL Players’ Association and come up with some surprising nominations.

Port Adelaide’s Brad Ebert’s tips were most revealing with young defender Darcy Byrne-Jones — priced at $123,900 in SuperCoach — on the edge of senior selection.

“Darcy Byrne-Jones has been looking pretty great off the half-back line,” he said.

Ebert also nominated mid-price forward-midfield option Sam Gray as a breakout contender after his strong finish to 2015.

Gray averaged 111 over the final six rounds of 2015 and has scored 80, 92 and 118 in Port’s three NAB Challenge matches.

In Sydney, Ted Richards says Dean Towers — a $259,000 forward — is in for a big season.

“For me Dean Towers is someone who has been in and out of the team and a fringe player, but the way he finished off 2015 in the finals series, and what he’s shown in the pre-season, I think he’s someone who play an important role for us this year.”

The veteran defender also nominated top draft pick Callum Mills to play a big role for the Swans in 2016.

Finally, Jayden Hunt was tipped to break into the Melbourne team by Jack Watts.

The Demons star said Christian Petracca was capable of making an instant impact when he got his body right but Hunt was a Round 1 smokie after training the house down over summer.

AFL STARS’ SUPERCOACH TIPS

ED CURNOW (Carlton)

BIG SEASON: Matthew Kreuzer ($481,900 Ruck)

BREAKOUT: Mark Whiley ($270,500 Mid)

YOUNG GUN: Charlie Curnow ($171,300 Fwd)

BRODIE GRUNDY (Collingwood)

BIG SEASON: Steele Sidebottom ($562,200 Mid)

BREAKOUT: Brent Macaffer ($174,200 Mid)

YOUNG GUN: Darcy Moore ($290,800 Fwd)

TED RICHARDS (Sydney)

BIG SEASON: Dan Hannebery ($617,900 Mid)

BREAKOUT: Dean Towers ($259,000 Fwd)

YOUNG GUN: Callum Mills ($211,800 Mid)

BRAD EBERT (Port Adelaide)

BIG SEASON: Robbie Gray ($595,900 Mid) and Travis Boak ($535,200 Mid)

BREAKOUT: Sam Gray ($480,800 Mid-Fwd) and Brendon Ah Chee ($334,100 Mid)

YOUNG GUN: Darcy Byrne-Jones ($123,900 Def) and Riley Bonner ($117,300 Def)

DANIEL MERRETT (Brisbane)

BIG SEASON: Tom Rockliff ($550,100 Mid) and Stefan Martin ($597,600 Ruck)

BREAKOUT: Lewis Taylor ($387,500 Mid-Fwd)

YOUNG GUN: Rhys Mathieson ($117,300 Mid)

JACK STEVEN (St Kilda)

BIG SEASON: Leigh Montagna ($599,000 Mid-Fwd)

BREAKOUT: Jack Billings ($455,100 Fwd)

YOUNG GUN: Blake Acres ($256,700 Mid) and Jade Gresham ($144,300 Mid)

JACK WATTS (Melbourne)

BIG SEASON: Dom Tyson ($431,00 Mid)

BREAKOUT: Jack Viney ($497,100 Mid)

YOUNG GUN: Christian Petracca ($123,900 Mid-Fwd) and Jayden Hunt ($123,900 Fwd)
Is Darcy Byrne Jones our rookie saviour? Should we look at Towers more closely?
 

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Channel and Triple M sports commentator Mark Howard is a mad Hawthorn man so you can imagine his excitement when he got a text message from Sam Mitchell.
This happened during the off-season and the content of the message was what got Howard particularly pumped.
Mitchell was asking Howie if he wanted to catch up for a kick down at the park.
Even though he lives at Barwon Heads, Howard momentarily contemplated how he could accommodate one of his heroes.
“For a second I thought here is a four-time premiership player wanting to go for a kick down at Elsternwick Park with me”.
An exchange of text messages followed with Mitchell revealing he’d sent the message to the wrong Howie — it was actually meant for his teammate Daniel Howe.
 

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Quick question Re: the live pass (not sure if this has already been answered), got it activated on my missus' Telstra account, is there any way to stream it through a PC, or is it strictly for Mobile and iPad only? I've tried to find a Android emulator as a temporary workaround but finding it to be too much effort.
As far as i know that's right. Recently went through trying to get it to play on my PC as well and tapped out pretty quickly after doing some googling.

Something about rights i'm pretty sure.
 

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HS writers jury + past winners for another verdict on some important players

The verdict is in.

Our SuperCoach experts have their say on 10 popular SuperCoach picks ahead of Round 1.

Will Dustin Martin still be a safe pick? Can Nick Graham and Aaron Hall deliver on their NAB Challenge promise?

GET THE BEST ADVICE IN THE SUPERCOACHES POD PODCAST BELOW

The countdown to the Round 1 lockout is on and SuperCoaches world wide are sweating it out as they finalise their starting line-ups.

Have your say on the must-haves and must-avoids below.


DUSTIN MARTIN ($569,300, Mid-Fwd) Richmond

AL PATON: Lock and load. Forget the last NAB Challenge game. Will average 100+ and capable of going over 150.

BEN HIGGINS: We’ll excuse him one bad NAB Challenge game with some off-field distractions. Still as safe as houses for me.

GILBERT GARDINER: Yes. Not cheap but his best is good enough to warrant selection. Dusty prone to putting in that stinker every now and then but as far as set and forget fwd-mids go the only one better is Deledio.

JOHN BRUYN (2013 SuperCoach winner): Very safe pick. Will be a top 5 forward. Priced fairly.

AYDEN POTTER (2015 SuperCoach winner): As long as Dusty is available as a forward, he will be in my side. Always a lock for Top 10 players in that position so it’s a no brainer. He may be cheaper at some stage but forget it, you’ll want him in your final team so you may as well start with him.

THE PHANTOM: Not to start with. There is a lot of value around in the forward line this year. Barlow at M1 for The Phantom


Matt Dea has been excellent in Essendon’s NAB Challenge games. Picture: Hamish Blair
MATT DEA ($183,600, Def) Essendon

Paton: Liked him as a Tiger and rapt to see him making the most of his second chance. Can play. But can you pick him, Brown and Hartley?

Higgins: Looked good on the weekend and making a late charge for Champagne Footy. Annoyingly, taking some gloss off Mitch Brown and Michael Hartley’s rookie claims.

Gardiner: Yes. Making every post a winner during the NAB Challenge and at least we know he’s going to get plenty of work in Essendon’s back half.

Bruyn: Worth the risk at D5 - certainly D6 if you’re the type to play it safe. Looks like he’ll score better than Brown or Hartley.

Potter: If playing Round 1 then he’s in. Has looked assured during NAB and there will be plenty of possessions to be won in Essendon’s defence. A bit more expensive than some other options but will surely want to take advantage of his second chance at AFL level.

Phantom: May have just pushed his way past Mitch Brown – especially if Brown continues to swing forward – in our rankings and could be worth the extra cash. There will be no shortage of work in the Bomber defence.


ZAC SMITH ($425,300, Ruck) Geelong

Paton: In and out of my side - out right now. Best of the value ruckmen but I’d prefer to spend more on a big scorer like Gawn or Nic Nat. But if I need to find some cash at the last minute he’s every chance to come back in.

Higgins: If you’re looking to save some money in the ruck department, Smith is your man. He was my R2 until a recent re-jig and feel safe going back to him if necessary.

Gardiner: Maybe. The potential is huge but has had his fair share of injuries in the past. Has not put foot wrong yet but needs to turn 70s-80s into 100s to warrant his selection.

Bruyn: No from me. Not confident he can score like the big boy rucks. A lot of risk in this pick.

Potter: As I’m going set and forget in the rucks with two premiums, it’s a no. Especially with the depth of promising talls at Geelong who will all by vying for just a few spots.

Phantom: Set and forget in the Rucks for The Phantom but he’s still the best mid-price option.


AARON HALL ($428,100, Mid-Fwd) Gold Coast

Paton: Gilbert was wrong about him last year, could he be wrong again? Nah, he’s the real deal. Has gone past Buddy for me.

Higgins: I’ve rolling with Jack Billings at this stage but Hall’s scoring power is starting to sway me. He can go big, Ablett-style big.

Gardiner: I was wrong ... Yes. I had my doubts but he just keeps on firing! Attacks every contest like it’s his last and importantly, Hall is not afraid to have shots at goal.

Bruyn: Approaching lock territory. I’m cringing watching his ownership climb - ‘cause I’ve had him in for a while now. I won’t be last person to claim this either.

Potter: Very tempting. Magnificent end to 2015 and backed that up in NAB, but I can’t fit him in my side as I tend to steer clear of mid price players. Could be a high reward pick though if you have the guts.

Phantom: Hall can’t be ignored any longer, even with the imminent return of Gary Ablett and Dion Prestia to the Suns’ midfield but The Phantom is still happy spending the extra $20k on Toby Greene.

NICK GRAHAM ($390,100, Mid) Carlton

Paton: Handy player but just can’t see how he will score hundreds most weeks when he’s competing with Cripps, Murphy and Gibbs for points in a team that won’t win many games.

Higgins: Three hundreds in three NAB Challenge games? Yes, please! He’s slotted in nicely and I expect him to be a key member of Carlton’s midfield.

Gardiner: No. Thanks but no thanks. Happy to risk him in favour of Kerridge.

Bruyn: Mid-price midfielder playing for a weaker team. Huge pass. Don’t do it!

Potter: See Hall. Looks ready to break out, but the impact of Murphy and Gibbs coming back is unknown. A bit too risky for me.

Phantom: Great pre-season but no, thanks. Could be a late steal for SuperCoach draft players.

CLAYTON OLIVER ($207,300, Mid) Melbourne

Paton: Good player but too expensive.

Higgins: I’ve thrown him in the same basket as Callum Mills and Darcy Parish. I’d rather have Daniel Wells and Sam Kerridge in my midfield and find cheaper forward rookies.

Gardiner: No. Doing a lot right but at $207k I’d rather spend that on Mills.

Bruyn: Nup. Too expensive for me. I’ll wait until after he plays Essendon in game 2 before considering.

Potter: Impressive display in NAB will put him in a lot of sides, but for me it’s a decision between Oliver and Mills. I’m slightly leaning towards Mills, only because he seems to be more AFL ready fitness-wise. Also, the Demons have a fair few inside midfielder options.

Phantom: The kid can play but The Phantom is going with Callum Mills instead. The next Ollie Wines.

LINCOLN McCARTHY ($139,400, Fwd) Geelong

Paton: Has never scored more than 56 in an AFL match although showed a bit more in the NAB. Not a huge list of rookie forwards to choose from but he’s not at the front of the queue for me.

Higgins: Injury has blighted McCarthy’s career but if the pre-season is any guide, he’s the Cats’ No.1 small forward. A little pricey but beggars can’t be choosers.

Gardiner: Yes. No. Maybe?! Wouldn’t recognise him if he sat next to me on the No.8 tram so will reserve judgment at this stage.

Bruyn: Should be everyone’s F7. Hasn’t budged from my side in weeks.

Potter: Touch and go. Early indications say he will play, however genuine small forwards generally don’t score that well or make the most cash. Nevertheless, if other options don’t eventuate when the teams are released then he will probably be in my side.

Phantom: Firming as a likely round one starter after an impressive pre-season and – at the moment - shapes as an ideal bench option.


Adam Treloar didn’t disappoint in his Collingwood debut.
ADAM TRELOAR ($576,400, Mid) Collingwood

Paton: Gun. Averaged 105 the past two years and could definitely improve on that this year but I won’t be picking him. One of about a dozen mids around that price who could all be great picks but with Fyfe, Ablett, Rockliff and Libba all locked in there’s probably only room for one. Also I’m still dirty on him for not choosing Richmond.

Higgins: His Collingwood debut certainly didn’t disappoint and I reckon he’s going to be the No.3 midfielder behind Pendles and Steele. Safe pick who still has room to improve.

Gardiner: No. Too many better/safer options in this price range.

Bruyn: Collingwood’s mids sharing the points is the only risk I can think of. Will improve his average. Pretty safe pick. Not in my calculations though.

Potter: It’s tempting but I won’t be starting with him due to the unknown role at a new club with a fairly talented midfield. I still see Pendlebury and Sidebottom as much better options at Collingwood.

Phantom: Huge first game in the black and white but we can’t fit them all in!

BEN KENNEDY ($187,800, Mid-Fwd) Melbourne

Paton: Has come right into calculations for my forward line. Could deliver similar scores to someone like Jordan De Goey for $150k less. In the mix.

Higgins: The former Magpie was starved of opportunity at Collingwood and his NAB Challenge efforts for Melbourne have been impressive. Loves a tackle and a goal.

Gardiner: Maybe. I’m convinced Higgo’s got a poster of this bloke on his bedroom wall. #Fanboy. Strong NAB form but want to see him replicate it on the big stage first.

Bruyn: Emerging from the rookie carnage as a decent, albeit expensive, pick. M/F swing is a plus. Currently on my bench.

Potter: Seems a likely option if playing Round 1 and is currently in my side. Should be a decent cash cow at his new club where he will be wanting to make an impression early and there’s a bit more opportunity for him to play.

Phantom: He’s got some class and was recruited for a reason. Too cheap to pass up, for mine.

JURY REVISITED ... MATTHEW LOBBE ($389,500, Ruck) Port Adelaide

Paton: If you read the jury from a month ago I think you’ll find I was the only juror who had no interest in Lobbe from the start. That hasn’t changed.

Higgins: Never understood the Lobbe fanfare. Has been towelled up in the NAB Challenge and doesn’t do much around the ground.

Gardiner: No. Not the first time I have been wrong. So much for him “thriving” as the no.1 ruck.

Bruyn: If ever there was a year to set and forget your rucks this is it. I’ll consider Leuy before him. Started the preseason as my R2. How times change!

Potter: Still a no from me as he has not impressed in NAB at all. Again, I’m going with two premium rucks so there is no room for a speculative pick like this.

Phantom: No. The Port big man just hasn’t done enough in the NAB Challenge.
 
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I love how Al Patton says that Bennedy is capable of scoring similar to De Goey. From memory, Bennedy is a small forward and is supercoach kryptonite in terms of score fluctuation where as a tough inside mid like De Goey will get tackles and CP.
 

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I love how Al Patton says that Bennedy is capable of scoring similar to De Goey. From memory, Bennedy is a small forward and is supercoach kryptonite in terms of score fluctuation where as a tough inside mid like De Goey will get tackles and CP.
Bennedy has been playing a fair amount of mid and at centre bounces in his defence I think. De Goey also has been spending some time up forward due to the midfield depth at the pies (43% centre bounce in NAB 4).
I do agree that DeGoey is more of an inside mid player, but don't think it's out of the question they could have similar averages, both could average around 80.
 
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I think durability counts in leagues. I'd employ this if you doubt the game count of Fyfe and Ablett.
A couple of other thoughts that might help:

- You need your players playing the finals in particular. General reliability helps, but I suspect teams like the Hawks and Freo will still selectively rest players late in the year, which could mean you are one premium down during league finals. The week off after the final round of the home and away season should help a lot, but I'd still guess that this is an issue for some teams. History should be a good guide as to which clubs do this, and which players get rested (generally older ones, I'd suggest).

- You want an easy draw during the finals, so your players score at their best when it is most important. I would assume that you will easily make finals, and the higher your ladder position the better, but it's very frustrating to finish your league in 1st place, but then get knocked out because someone's POD beats up on a very weak side. Clearly the league grand final week is most important.

- Potentially tilt your team towards the very highest scorers, rather than emphasising upgrading ASAP. Ladder position helps, but ultimately you need to simply make the finals, and then minimise your chances of losing them. Having the very highest scorers at the end of the year could be key, even if it takes you an extra few rounds to reach a fully upgraded team. I assume you will easily make finals, so the focus should largely be on optimising your end of season team, not getting to it quickly. If you do fall behind and need to jag unexpected wins, you can always pick PODs who can go huge (maybe Buddy types) and cross your fingers.

- Fairly obviously, keep an eye on your trades! :) Good luck.
Yep trades/picking durable players is king in league games. Fyfe/Ablett are still musts imo as their ability to go massive as a POD/POD captain will mean you're next to no chance when they do go huge (and you don't have them).
Thanks guys, reinforced a few of my thoughts. Appreciate it!
 

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Just saw a photo of the captains day at Etihad, probably nothing in it but no Rockliff, Hanley was the Lions representative.
Gazza was there, he has been a no show in the past.

EDIT: Rocky must be training, just read that he's been sprinting
 
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Just saw a photo of the captains day at Etihad, probably nothing in it but no Rockliff, Hanley was the Lions representative.
Gazza was there, he has been a no show in the past.

EDIT: Rocky must be training, just read that he's been sprinting
Using the time for more rehab I read :) good choice
 
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Paton: If you read the jury from a month ago I think you’ll find I was the only juror who had no interest in Lobbe from the start. That hasn’t changed.

Actually, when he dobbed in his fellow experts (@ above) was the most interesting thing for me. I thought it was amusing and well done.

As for me, I respect all of their opinions because they all have a pretty high understanding of supercoach and AFL ... As for the players' comments ... my eyes rolled. ;-)
 
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As far as i know that's right. Recently went through trying to get it to play on my PC as well and tapped out pretty quickly after doing some googling.

Something about rights i'm pretty sure.
I use Chromecast to put it on my TV and while not great reception it is still quite watchable for games not in free to air (like most crows games when living in melbourne!)
 
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Quick question Re: the live pass (not sure if this has already been answered), got it activated on my missus' Telstra account, is there any way to stream it through a PC, or is it strictly for Mobile and iPad only? I've tried to find a Android emulator as a temporary workaround but finding it to be too much effort.
As far as i know that's right. Recently went through trying to get it to play on my PC as well and tapped out pretty quickly after doing some googling.

Something about rights i'm pretty sure.
I use Chromecast to put it on my TV and while not great reception it is still quite watchable for games not in free to air (like most crows games when living in melbourne!)
I've got the app on my iPhone and tablet. I bought a Lightning to HDMI adaptor last year and it worked like a charm. There were only issues with the stream. This year the stream has been top notch and I can watch it on my TV (have not yet checked to see if there is a similar adapter to PC) with my free Telstra subscription :p

#whoneedsFoxtel
 

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The AFL Players have announced their Top 50 Players

50. Dylan Shiel
49. Marcus Bontempelli
48. Bernie Vince
47. Jack Riewoldt
46. Josh Gibson
45. Jack Steven
44. Tom Hawkins
43. Brent Harvey
42. Nathan Jones
41. Harry Taylor
40. Brett Deledio
39. Tom Rockliff
38. Taylor Walker
37. Jake Stringer
36. Andrew Gaff
35. Nic Naitanui
34. Shaun Burgoyne
33. Jeremy Cameron
32. Eddie Betts
31. Robert Murphy
30. Rory Sloane
29. David Mundy
28. Dayne Beams
27. Jordan Lewis
26. Callan Ward
25. Nick Riewoldt
24. Aaron Sandilands
23. Dane Swan
22. Trent Cotchin
21. Chad Wingard
20. Dustin Martin
19. Alex Rance
18. Luke Parker
17. Cyril Rioli
16. Travis Boak
15. Josh Kennedy (WC)
14. Dan Hannebery
13. Josh Kennedy (Syd)
12. Todd Goldstein
11. Jarryd Roughead
10. Robbie Gray
9. Matt Priddis
8. Joel Selwood
7. Lance Franklin
6. Sam Mitchell
5. Luke Hodge
4. Scott Pendlebury
3. Patrick Dangerfield
2. Gary Ablett
1. Nat Fyfe
 
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Who do you think will win the 2016 Brownlow Medal? (Four captains correctly nominated Nat Fyfe in 2015)

Patrick Dangerfield (Geelong, four votes), Gary Ablett (Gold Coast, three votes), Nat Fyfe (Fremantle, three votes), Dan Hannebery (Sydney Swans, three votes), Josh Kennedy (Sydney Swans, one vote), Tom Liberatore (Western Bulldogs, one vote), Dustin Martin (Richmond, one vote), Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood, one vote), Luke Shuey (West Coast, one vote).

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2016-03-17/finals-a-brownlow-and-a-rising-star
 
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So it's been over 24 hours and I haven't changed my team.....a new 2016 PB for me!
 

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So it's been over 24 hours and I haven't changed my team.....a new 2016 PB for me!
Me too! I was just saying this to my mate, first time I haven't changed it in 24 hours since SC opened. It's nice to feel relatively settled though. I'm sure team sheets will produce their fair amount of mayhem!
 
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