Opinion Tom Liberatore - Keeper, Cash Cow or M9

Tom Liberatore's 2016 Average

  • 90-92

    Votes: 8 8.3%
  • 93-95

    Votes: 6 6.3%
  • 96-98

    Votes: 8 8.3%
  • 99-101

    Votes: 16 16.7%
  • 102-104

    Votes: 22 22.9%
  • 105-107

    Votes: 26 27.1%
  • 108-110

    Votes: 7 7.3%
  • 111-113

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • 114+

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • 120+

    Votes: 0 0.0%

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#41
I wish this thread was never created. It's made me more confused about Libba than ever! I'm selecting him as a keeper but it's gonna be a 'see what happens' pick i think.
 
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#42
I wish this thread was never created. It's made me more confused about Libba than ever! I'm selecting him as a keeper but it's gonna be a 'see what happens' pick i think.
I think 'who knows!?' is the best response. For me he's a good pick because he has the capacity to be great (a $357k 105+ keeper) and there's relatively little downside. He has to be scoring down below 90 before it starts to be a really dud pick. If I knew for a fact he was going to average 98 for the year and be a cash cow, I wouldn't pick him, but it's by no means a disaster if that happens, particularly in a year with slim rookie pickings.
 
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#43
Matt Crouch is $11,000 more expensive but on NAB form he is hard to ignore. Averaged 26 disposals and 109 points from 67% game time. In comparison Libba averaged 74 from 80% game time.

The real question is - how much do we read into NAB cup form? Obviously there was a void left by Dangerfield but is it enough to think he will continue like that in the season proper? The low TOG and big score to me suggests even more upside.
 
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#44
Ah fuggit.... I'll start Libba, try and keep 12k free and correct if needs be. I think Courtesans KISS principle applies
 
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#46
Not taking the risk after an acl. History says it takes a good 12 months to recover and then some more
 
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#50
Why do people get hung up on 110av? Heppell was top 8 mid on total points with 105. Libba was very durable before his knee.
I think this is definitely a key point.

We're never going to end up with the Top 8 midfielders, and we bring some of them in midway through the season anyway. But for argument's sake, looking at 2015's results, we see:

Only 12 MIDs averaged over 107, BUT

Only 6 MIDs scored totals above a 107 average (2,354 = 107 x 22):
- Pendlebury
- Hannebery
- Dangerfield
- Priddis
- JPK
- Mundy

What is says is that, if you think someone's going to average around 105 (ish), then if you think they'll play every game, then don't be too dissuaded.

To put it in context, the 12th highest scoring MID was Andrew Gaff, scoring 2,283, at an average of 104.
 
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#51
I think this is definitely a key point.

We're never going to end up with the Top 8 midfielders, and we bring some of them in midway through the season anyway. But for argument's sake, looking at 2015's results, we see:

Only 12 MIDs averaged over 107, BUT

Only 6 MIDs scored totals above a 107 average (2,354 = 107 x 22):
- Pendlebury
- Hannebery
- Dangerfield
- Priddis
- JPK
- Mundy

What is says is that, if you think someone's going to average around 105 (ish), then if you think they'll play every game, then don't be too dissuaded.

To put it in context, the 12th highest scoring MID was Andrew Gaff, scoring 2,283, at an average of 104.
i don't quite agree with just adding rookie scores to premiums who are more than likely to miss games either, premiums missing games often leads to crappy trades and you may not have cover.

Outside of Gaz and Rocky durability is definitely a focus for me this season.
 
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#52
Ah fuggit.... I'll start Libba, try and keep 12k free and correct if needs be. I think Courtesans KISS principle applies
I think if you start him then you probably need to keep him to at least the Byes. I would be wary about kicking him from your team if he starts with a few bad games as he may just start slow and build into some good form after that.
 
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#53
I think if you start him then you probably need to keep him to at least the Byes. I would be wary about kicking him from your team if he starts with a few bad games as he may just start slow and build into some good form after that.
Agreed. Dogs also play their first 7 games at home, so that should help him get back into the swing of things with no travelling and such.
 
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