Opinion Round 5: Teams and In Game Discussions
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HAWTHORN
PLAYERSUPERCOACH
28 Paul Puopolo 70
33 Cyril Rioli 66
18 Jonathon Ceglar 52
26 Liam Shiels 51
7 Ben McEvoy 46
5 Sam Mitchell 45
15 Luke Hodge 43
9 Shaun Burgoyne 42
10 Bradley Hill 37
12 James Frawley 37
21 James Sicily 34
16 Isaac Smith 33
19 Jack Gunston 33
22 Luke Breust 33
24 Ben Stratton 29
14 Grant Birchall 24
23 Tim O'Brien 23
6 Josh Gibson 21
3 Jordan Lewis 20
29 Will Langford 20
4 Billy Hartung 16
8 Taylor Duryea 13
TOTAL788
ADELAIDE
PLAYERSUPERCOACH
9 Rory Sloane 56
33 Brodie Smith 51
44 Matt Crouch 51
5 Scott Thompson 49
21 Rory Atkins 48
26 Richard Douglas 47
29 Rory Laird 44
18 Eddie Betts 42
11 Paul Seedsman 41
24 Sam Jacobs 41
4 Josh Jenkins 37
16 Luke Brown 35
41 Mitch McGovern 35
13 Taylor Walker 35
31 Jarryd Lyons 32
15 Kyle Hartigan 32
14 David Mackay 30
12 Daniel Talia 29
6 Jake Lever 25
23 Charlie Cameron 20
25 Kyle Cheney 18
27 Tom Lynch 11
TOTAL809
PLAYERSUPERCOACH
28 Paul Puopolo 70
33 Cyril Rioli 66
18 Jonathon Ceglar 52
26 Liam Shiels 51
7 Ben McEvoy 46
5 Sam Mitchell 45
15 Luke Hodge 43
9 Shaun Burgoyne 42
10 Bradley Hill 37
12 James Frawley 37
21 James Sicily 34
16 Isaac Smith 33
19 Jack Gunston 33
22 Luke Breust 33
24 Ben Stratton 29
14 Grant Birchall 24
23 Tim O'Brien 23
6 Josh Gibson 21
3 Jordan Lewis 20
29 Will Langford 20
4 Billy Hartung 16
8 Taylor Duryea 13
TOTAL788
ADELAIDE
PLAYERSUPERCOACH
9 Rory Sloane 56
33 Brodie Smith 51
44 Matt Crouch 51
5 Scott Thompson 49
21 Rory Atkins 48
26 Richard Douglas 47
29 Rory Laird 44
18 Eddie Betts 42
11 Paul Seedsman 41
24 Sam Jacobs 41
4 Josh Jenkins 37
16 Luke Brown 35
41 Mitch McGovern 35
13 Taylor Walker 35
31 Jarryd Lyons 32
15 Kyle Hartigan 32
14 David Mackay 30
12 Daniel Talia 29
6 Jake Lever 25
23 Charlie Cameron 20
25 Kyle Cheney 18
27 Tom Lynch 11
TOTAL809
Agreed.
3 kicks, 5 handballs @ 100% DE, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 1 free kick, 2 I50 and 26 hit outs. I'm guessing he's had at least 8 hit outs to direct advantage from watching the game. With 20 goals coming in the first half, it must affect some player's SC scores who haven't kicked any or had any score assists.
Here's hoping he can push forward, kick a couple in the second half and get past the ton!!
3 kicks, 5 handballs @ 100% DE, 1 mark, 1 tackle, 1 free kick, 2 I50 and 26 hit outs. I'm guessing he's had at least 8 hit outs to direct advantage from watching the game. With 20 goals coming in the first half, it must affect some player's SC scores who haven't kicked any or had any score assists.
Here's hoping he can push forward, kick a couple in the second half and get past the ton!!
Yeah I agree with that. One mainly tends to notice it more with one's own ruckmen though naturally.
What seems to happen is they generally get called a HTA when it's an absolute advantage, eg ruckman at centre square hits it to player who kicks the ball into the 50, with the ruckman usually getting 3 points for it. However then there is what I would call a semi to advantage tap, eg the ruckman clearly it it to another player who takes possession but that player takes a split second too long so their handball gets smothered/sharked etc. It's this hit out that I think should at least get a point but often gets 0.
Anyway can't complain as long as all ruckmen get judged the same (But I sometimes wonder!)
What seems to happen is they generally get called a HTA when it's an absolute advantage, eg ruckman at centre square hits it to player who kicks the ball into the 50, with the ruckman usually getting 3 points for it. However then there is what I would call a semi to advantage tap, eg the ruckman clearly it it to another player who takes possession but that player takes a split second too long so their handball gets smothered/sharked etc. It's this hit out that I think should at least get a point but often gets 0.
Anyway can't complain as long as all ruckmen get judged the same (But I sometimes wonder!)
The problem if those aren't being counted as H2A is that it has nothing to do with the ruckman. He has done his job to hit it directly to a team-mate, he no longer has control of what happens to the ball or player. As you said, the ruckman should get judged solely on the actual hitout and not what happens afterwards. Anyway, there's nothing we can do about how the score players and we should probably just jump on Champion Data favs like Rance LoL.
