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Which mid pricers/JLT bolters will you be starting?

  • Tuohy

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Mills

    Votes: 3 3.2%
  • Bob Murphy

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • Beams

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Marc Murphy

    Votes: 4 4.3%
  • Watson

    Votes: 6 6.4%
  • O'Meara

    Votes: 44 46.8%
  • Swallow

    Votes: 29 30.9%
  • Sandilands

    Votes: 80 85.1%
  • Witts

    Votes: 34 36.2%
  • Ryder

    Votes: 10 10.6%
  • Roughead

    Votes: 41 43.6%
  • Higgins

    Votes: 11 11.7%
  • Wingard

    Votes: 2 2.1%
  • Billings

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Nankervis

    Votes: 54 57.4%
  • Steele

    Votes: 28 29.8%
  • Petracca

    Votes: 2 2.1%

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DEF: Docherty, Adams, Johannisen, McGrath, Scharenberg, Stewart (Ryan, Long)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Bontempelli, Fyfe, T. Mitchell, Beams, Myers, Freeman (Powell-Pepper, Bolton, Graham)
RUC: Gawn, Goldstein (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughead, McCluggage, Black, Pickett (Smith, Eddy)

Cash left: $87,700

Many of the rookies may just be placeholders for now. Chances are I will start just one or neither of McGrath/McCluggage.
Tom Mitchell in Hawthorn colours intrigues me. I still don't know how I feel about this.
Surely this is the season where Bont becomes a giant of Supercoach with Danger/Fyfe/Pendles.
Still unsure of the Beams pick.
Roughy pending round 1 fitness.
Have I gone too thin down back and up forward?
This is an interesting side Bomber, a bit different to many that have been posted. A few thoughts:

- I don't think your defs are too thin, but I'd say they aren't that proven, and they are quite injury prone. JJ, Adams and Scharenberg is potentially too much injury risk in one line as I see it. I personally think Doc is overpriced, and that's why he's not in as many sides as you might normally expect. If you're looking for a tweak, and/or to add a R12 premium (it looks like maybe you should be?) Rance could be appealing.

- Your mids look good. As an overall comment, you've probably gone for younger and less proven players than many, but perhaps with a bit more upside (Adams, JJ, Bont, Mitchell), without going too speculative or mid-priced.

- Your rucks are interesting. Few are going set and forget, so to pick Gawn and Goldy is a big investment relative to others. It doesn't seem to have hurt you too much elsewhere for the most part, although your F5 and F6 might need upgrading. Your D3 and F3 would probably be riskier/weaker than most as well. You're probably well aware, but the top two rucks basically never back it up two years running, so there's a strong chance you're spending top dollar, and not getting the best two rucks anyway. I'm much more inclined to spend up in the mids because they're more consistent and more predictable (although this year, you need not even spend up in many cases!). I'd consider picking your favourite ruck, and looking at choosing Sandi at R2 as a way to choose your R2 keeper when you have more info (rather than viewing Sandi as a mid-pricer/stepping stone, eg).

- Your F1-3 are the same as mine, so I obviously think they're good picks. I have three $200k picks behind them though, so you're probably relying more heavily on the basement priced forwards to get up and score okay. The consensus might be wrong, but at this stage I think the view is that the forward rookie stocks are pretty dire. If you were to shift one of your rucks out for Sandi, this is one area where you could invest a bit more to derisk your side, perhaps by adding someone like Heeney. Alternately using your cash balance, or downgrading McGrath down to Newman or someone similar, might be options to make your starting forward rookies a bit more solid.

Good luck, it's good to see some different approaches being used.
 
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Firstly, happy Year of the Rooster. Listening to fireworks and Chinese talk shows... as you do.

Anyway, I can't figure out why my team looks so good compared to you allz so far - so awesome.

Main worry is that I'll get punted for rude team name.

Year Of The Cock. (Rooster wouldn't fit)

Docherty Adams Johannisen McGrath Keefe Scharenberg - Hampton Ryan
Dangerfield Rockliff Fyfe TMitchell Heppell Beams Swallow Myers - Powell-Pepper Bolton Jarman
Gawn Sandilands - Strnadica
Dalhaus Heeney Ryder Bennell McCluggage Pickett - Long Eddy

Ps. I'm not looking for advice, I'm showing you the TEAM to beat. :p

Edit: pss. Apologies, too much Bai Jiu... look it up. ok, Back to fireworks now
LOL
I'm surprised you got past the swear filter.
Double LOL. You haven't considered something like Rooster Rules or Rule the Roost? :p
 
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Or use the French version - coq

Year of le Coq
I think this is a good idea, but Chinese might be better ... Year of the Ji it is... Can I still change this? Will check now.

Edit: IN settings. Too easy. 'Year of the Ji' it is...

Edit 2(last): Happy with 'Year of de Rooster'
 
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I think this is a good idea, but Chinese might be better ... Year of the Ji it is... Can I still change this? Will check now.

Edit: IN settings. Too easy. 'Year of the Ji' it is...

Edit 2(last): Happy with 'Year of de Rooster'
Ni Hao! Great name, you're back in China i take it? Hope it's treating you well and may your interest speeds be fast!
 
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I think this is a good idea, but Chinese might be better ... Year of the Ji it is... Can I still change this? Will check now.

Edit: IN settings. Too easy. 'Year of the Ji' it is...

Edit 2(last): Happy with 'Year of de Rooster'
Gets me every year... where is Settings?
 
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Thanks Prochard, freowho, Bomber18 and Santoz for your comments really appreciate it, this is what i've come up with a newly updated team and did quite a few changes
original;
DEF: Docherty, Shaw, Rance, MHibberd, Berry, Newman (Stewart, Ryan)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, JPK, Fyfe, Beams, DSwallow, Foote, SPP ( Myers, Barrett, Freeman)
RUC: Gawn, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Ryder, Roughead, Knight, Pickett (Rioli, Eddy)
$8,200 left over

updated;
DEF: Shaw, Rance, Laird, Keefe, Hampton, Newman (EVW, Ryan)
MID: Dangerfield, JPK, Treloar, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, DSwallow, SPP ( Myers, Barrett, Freeman)
RUC: Goldie, Sandilands (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Ryder, Roughead, Black, Pickett (Rioli, Eddy)
$40,300 left over
I'm quite happy with this team but my concerns are with Ryder and Roughead being F4 and F5 i can seem to budge on choosing any other fwds that are to my liking but i guess we have to wait and see till pre-season to find out
 
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Last SC season I put in a massive pre season and analysed my team to death. After making a few early mistakes I hit the wall and by round 16 I had just had enough (first year I have not finished a year properly and I have been playing since the mid 90's when you had to mail your team in and call in your trades one or twice a year LOL).

This year I have deliberately started my pre season late and this is my first (of many) teams that I have come up with.

All feedback appreciated.

D: Adams, Z Williams, Rampe, Martin, Otten, Vickers-Willis (Newman, hewett)
M: Dangerfield, Treloar, Gray, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Swallow, Myers (Hibberd, Freeman, Williams)
R: Sandilands, Witts (Cameron)
F: Macrae, Rioli, Wingard, Higgins, Daw, Menzel (Black, Pickett)

$280K in the bank
 
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Gets me every year... where is Settings?
On my browser (Chrome/Mac Sierra) no matter what page, it's a little cog on the left bottom of screen. I never new it existed as always had a theme for team name which never needed changing till now.
 
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Last SC season I put in a massive pre season and analysed my team to death. After making a few early mistakes I hit the wall and by round 16 I had just had enough (first year I have not finished a year properly and I have been playing since the mid 90's when you had to mail your team in and call in your trades one or twice a year LOL).

This year I have deliberately started my pre season late and this is my first (of many) teams that I have come up with.

All feedback appreciated.

D: Adams, Z Williams, Rampe, Martin, Otten, Vickers-Willis (Newman, hewett)
M: Dangerfield, Treloar, Gray, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Swallow, Myers (Hibberd, Freeman, Williams)
R: Sandilands, Witts (Cameron)
F: Macrae, Rioli, Wingard, Higgins, Daw, Menzel (Black, Pickett)

$280K in the bank
Wow, Brave team. I had Martin, but don't have the balls to follow through.

Immediately, I'd worry about Daw and Omeara not being up for round 1. Cheers.
 
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Wow, Brave team. I had Martin, but don't have the balls to follow through.

Immediately, I'd worry about Daw and Omeara not being up for round 1. Cheers.
Thanks. Daw is the biggest risk and is probably only a 30% chance to make it to my round 1 team but as a North supporter I know that when he plays full games (no vest) he gets value for every touch that he gets (like Rioli). All I need him to do is get the pill 12 - 15 times per game (sounds easy)
 
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On my browser (Chrome/Mac Sierra) no matter what page, it's a little cog on the left bottom of screen. I never new it existed as always had a theme for team name which never needed changing till now.
I remember the cog but can't see anything on my iPhone or iPad, our PC is just a decoration.
 
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Shaw, T Adams, Montagna, Laird
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Myers
Goldstein, Sandilands, Freo r/f rookie
Macrae, Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder

Remaining players are cashcows that play round 1 so no point listing them now as I have no idea who will be picked.

DEF: Picking quality scorers in defence is really easy this season. Could easily pick the wrong ones but I can't see any of those four I listed dropping below a 90 average and being a complete Lumumba type disaster.

MID: I can't see trading Fyfe into my team at some point being logical. Either he plays well, has a durable season and is a must pick for round 1 or you just don't pick him. Ablett is similar but is priced higher and has the early bye. Beams is a huge risk and I may change my mind. I don't think you can plan to have him for the last round of the season. Definitely will track the pre-season of these three players closely.

RUCK: Third man up rule change and the success I had with Sandi in 2015 means I'll start with him. Having a bottom price Freo r/f gives me easier flexibility for the captain loophole too - I completely botched my R3 selection last season so I'm already better off.

FWD: The two Bulldogs players are easy choices. Heeney had a good finals series. His grand final was ordinary for mine but not a Yeo 15' GF disaster that should have been a clear indication for me not to pick him. Ryder will ave 95+ as a clear no.1 ruck. Problems will arise if Lobbe plays as well though.
 

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Shaw, T Adams, Montagna, Laird
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Myers
Goldstein, Sandilands, Freo r/f rookie
Macrae, Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder

Remaining players are cashcows that play round 1 so no point listing them now as I have no idea who will be picked.

DEF: Picking quality scorers in defence is really easy this season. Could easily pick the wrong ones but I can't see any of those four I listed dropping below a 90 average and being a complete Lumumba type disaster.

MID: I can't see trading Fyfe into my team at some point being logical. Either he plays well, has a durable season and is a must pick for round 1 or you just don't pick him. Ablett is similar but is priced higher and has the early bye. Beams is a huge risk and I may change my mind. I don't think you can plan to have him for the last round of the season. Definitely will track the pre-season of these three players closely.

RUCK: Third man up rule change and the success I had with Sandi in 2015 means I'll start with him. Having a bottom price Freo r/f gives me easier flexibility for the captain loophole too - I completely botched my R3 selection last season so I'm already better off.

FWD: The two Bulldogs players are easy choices. Heeney had a good finals series. His grand final was ordinary for mine but not a Yeo 15' GF disaster that should have been a clear indication for me not to pick him. Ryder will ave 95+ as a clear no.1 ruck. Problems will arise if Lobbe plays as well though.
All makes complete sense to me. I'm adverse to spending big in defense but that might be my failure not yours. Calculated risks in Adams, Beams and Swallow. Sounds as if Montagna might be freed up from his defensive role, which could be good or bad, but worth considering.
 
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All makes complete sense to me. I'm adverse to spending big in defense but that might be my failure not yours. Calculated risks in Adams, Beams and Swallow. Sounds as if Montagna might be freed up from his defensive role, which could be good or bad, but worth considering.
Regarding spending big in defence I think this year is different. I feel that way with the forwards this season and I reckon the top 6 defenders could all average 100+ and score more than the forwards. If this thinking is correct a mid-pricer that jumps in ave from 70 to 90 in defence won't be a possible D6 keeper for your team unlike previous seasons.
 

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Regarding spending big in defence I think this year is different. I feel that way with the forwards this season and I reckon the top 6 defenders could all average 100+ and score more than the forwards. If this thinking is correct a mid-pricer that jumps in ave from 70 to 90 in defence won't be a possible D6 keeper for your team unlike previous seasons.
You could be right, and it's a thought I haven't seen expressed. Even if that figure is 96+ then higher priced in Defense and the calculated gamble in the Forwards is a good shift in thinking. So, for me, discount Hibberd and hedge towards Touk Miller.

Food for thought.
 

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Shaw, T Adams, Montagna, Laird
Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Myers
Goldstein, Sandilands, Freo r/f rookie
Macrae, Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder

Remaining players are cashcows that play round 1 so no point listing them now as I have no idea who will be picked.

DEF: Picking quality scorers in defence is really easy this season. Could easily pick the wrong ones but I can't see any of those four I listed dropping below a 90 average and being a complete Lumumba type disaster.

MID: I can't see trading Fyfe into my team at some point being logical. Either he plays well, has a durable season and is a must pick for round 1 or you just don't pick him. Ablett is similar but is priced higher and has the early bye. Beams is a huge risk and I may change my mind. I don't think you can plan to have him for the last round of the season. Definitely will track the pre-season of these three players closely.

RUCK: Third man up rule change and the success I had with Sandi in 2015 means I'll start with him. Having a bottom price Freo r/f gives me easier flexibility for the captain loophole too - I completely botched my R3 selection last season so I'm already better off.

FWD: The two Bulldogs players are easy choices. Heeney had a good finals series. His grand final was ordinary for mine but not a Yeo 15' GF disaster that should have been a clear indication for me not to pick him. Ryder will ave 95+ as a clear no.1 ruck. Problems will arise if Lobbe plays as well though.
Solid picks which u justify pretty well. The one thing I'd say is don't commit completely to a 4 prem defense as it is the rookies not premiums that dictate the right structure. Early it seems as the def rookies might be pretty good, it might be more worthwhile going lighter in the def and heavier in the mids and forwards. If for example, you have 3 def rookies that are averaging 70 and you have on field mid/fwd rookies averaging 60, you're losing 10ppg to those that went lighter in the def! Too early to tell but monitor in the JLT.
 

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Last SC season I put in a massive pre season and analysed my team to death. After making a few early mistakes I hit the wall and by round 16 I had just had enough (first year I have not finished a year properly and I have been playing since the mid 90's when you had to mail your team in and call in your trades one or twice a year LOL).

This year I have deliberately started my pre season late and this is my first (of many) teams that I have come up with.

All feedback appreciated.

D: Adams, Z Williams, Rampe, Martin, Otten, Vickers-Willis (Newman, hewett)
M: Dangerfield, Treloar, Gray, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Swallow, Myers (Hibberd, Freeman, Williams)
R: Sandilands, Witts (Cameron)
F: Macrae, Rioli, Wingard, Higgins, Daw, Menzel (Black, Pickett)

$280K in the bank
That's quite a history with the game you have Mudflap! Hopefully the below is helpful:

- My two main observations would be that you have a lot of midpricers, and many of your selections are not very proven at premium level, especially outside the midfield.

- The players I would put in these categories would be Williams, Rampe, Martin, JOM, Swallow, Witts, Higgins and Daw. [Beams and Sandi are perfectly fine in my view, and will be popular choices.]

- If you picked your favourite few of that first list, and downgraded the rest to rookies/upgraded to really solid keepers with the cash saved, I think you'd be much better placed. I'd prefer Swallow over JOM, only one or maybe two of those defs to be retained, and I'd be wary of both the North boys (although I appreciate you will know them better).

- Have a think about what you do if Sandi or Witts gets injured early. I imagine you swing Daw up to the ruck, but if that's the backup plan, either Daw needs to stand on his own as a selection, or you need to think about the potential drag that selecting Daw creates, and weigh it against the benefit of going super cheap with Sandi and Witts. I think most people would prefer another solid ruck choice in there at R1 (potentially retaining Sandi and/or Witts), or a more solid R-F pick up forward. Ryder would be the obvious choice for a proven potential keeper, albeit his role will be something to watch. I think your structure also means that you are slightly heavy on Port/GC players across the ruck and forward lines, so you may be required to trade one of them out by round nine to avoid a donut if someone gets injured or dropped. Ryder could increase that issue somewhat, although at his price I'd say he looks a lot more solid to me than Daw.

- Your forward line is quite PODdish, which could be really good or could be quite risky. Most regard Macrae and/or Dahl as locks, so unless you have a concern with Dahl I'd look to get him in as F1. I can see the appeal of Rioli and Wingard although I'm probably wary of having both them and Higgins in one line - it seems like you're a bit reliant on favourable role changes, which could go either way, and there's a bit of injury risk in there too.

- I'd be interested in what you are expecting from Higgins and Daw this year?

- I'd say your mids are comfortably your best line, in large part because you've got quite proven, largely durable premiums and some good rookies, with not too much in between. If you can reduce the number of players priced between about $250-450k I'd say you will be well served. Beams, Sandi and Swallow would be the three I would prefer to keep, but I'd have a good look at the others.

- You've obviously got some cash in the bank. I'd look at using that to put some $200k priced players in as placeholders given that some of the lower priced rookies look pretty dodgy, especially up forward. I've got McCarthy, Knight and McCluggage, but to some degree the exact names don't matter much just yet, it's more about putting the cash aside because it's much easier to upgrade than downgrade just before lockout without ruining your starting side!

Hope this helps, good luck for a better 2017.
 

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Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Myers
Goldstein, Sandilands, Freo r/f rookie
Macrae, Dahlhaus, Heeney, Ryder

Remaining players are cashcows that play round 1 so no point listing them now as I have no idea who will be picked.

DEF: Picking quality scorers in defence is really easy this season. Could easily pick the wrong ones but I can't see any of those four I listed dropping below a 90 average and being a complete Lumumba type disaster.

MID: I can't see trading Fyfe into my team at some point being logical. Either he plays well, has a durable season and is a must pick for round 1 or you just don't pick him. Ablett is similar but is priced higher and has the early bye. Beams is a huge risk and I may change my mind. I don't think you can plan to have him for the last round of the season. Definitely will track the pre-season of these three players closely.

RUCK: Third man up rule change and the success I had with Sandi in 2015 means I'll start with him. Having a bottom price Freo r/f gives me easier flexibility for the captain loophole too - I completely botched my R3 selection last season so I'm already better off.

FWD: The two Bulldogs players are easy choices. Heeney had a good finals series. His grand final was ordinary for mine but not a Yeo 15' GF disaster that should have been a clear indication for me not to pick him. Ryder will ave 95+ as a clear no.1 ruck. Problems will arise if Lobbe plays as well though.

Hard to disagree with a lot here Grant. Your logic seems very sound and I have/have had all of your picks in my side at one point, except for Adams and Bont (who I can understand the arguments for). I still have 13 of your 18 above.

I suspect you're already doing this, but I'd just have a think about who your marginal keeper is on each line, to allow for easy structural adjustments pending greater clarity on rookies. You don't seem to have masses of cash left over (I think around $1.8m for 12 spots?) so knowing who your least favourite picks are also means you can trim easily if you need to raise cash.

You may want to consider who you would pick as an additional mid, if that made sense at lockout. I don't think you'll need five keeper picks up forward or down back, but you may want to add a keeper in the midfield. Again, you've probably got a fair idea of who that would be ... deciding on another mid premium isn't exactly an onerous task most of the time!

The only other thing I noticed was that you seem very light on for round 12 bye players. Rance is one I like for that purpose, so he might be up your alley, given so many of our other picks are very similar. I think Selwood is also quite a viable starting pick this year if you want to push further in this direction.

Good luck - if your side goes well, I think I'll be up there with you!
 
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