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[30BucketsofRo]

Hey guys - first time posting up my team even though I've been reading for a while.

All rookies are very subject to change - if I can save cash on them then I'll upgrade Jack to Hannebery and Goldie to Gawn, maybe Berry to McGrath.

DEF: Rance, Adams, Laird, Murphy, Scharenberg, Berry (Stewart, Ryan)
MID: Danger, Treloar, Rockliff, Fyfe, Steven, Beams, Swallow, Myers (SPP, Graham, Brown)
RUCK: Goldie, Sandi (Eagles)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Greene, Ryder, McCluggage, Ainsworth, Gallucci (Bolton, Eddy)

It's a bit of a ridiculous midfield but I figure if Beams and Swallow both fire like they can then I'll only have to upgrade one mid and I'll have my keepers. Money generated elsewhere can then go to the forwards and backs that show form out of all of the options out there that don't seem to be that easy to split coming into the season.

I change the team a lot more often than I change my undies but would be good to see what you think of this version as it'll probably stay similar until after the pre-season comp.

Cheers

G'day mate, and welcome to SCS! There are many knowledgeable people here so you will always find help some way or another, it is a truly wonderful resource.

That's a solid structure you have. Solid backs, think Murphy is an interesting choice, haven't seen him in many teams. Part of the reason may be because players generally don't perform their best in their comeback season after a knee reconstruction - building confidence back up in how they move and general match fitness would be factors. However, I think Bob can still be a solid pick.

As you suggested, I'd be inclined to turn Steven into a Hannebery type if you have the funds. I'm personally not sold on starting both Beams and Swallow as it seems a little too risky for me. Perhaps downgrading one is where you can find the cash to do so?

I currently have Sandi and Goldy as my rucks too. May I suggest you look into spending a little extra and look to get Witts for your bench? Ruck cover is important and Witts seems likely to get games. Or even a ruck/forward rookie so you can utilise Ryder as cover if needed?

Nice forward line. Think Dahl is a must. Greene is probably a POD choice but if he plays like he did last year then he is a good POD to have with a lack of top end MID/FWD locks. If only he realised his potential in the midfield - he has Fantasy Pig written all over him if he can get back into the midfield.

Very good start, mate! The pre-season comp will shed more light on the rookies to look out for and the basic roles of our chosen players. Good luck, and once again, welcome to the site

 

[Bomber18]

Happy to share some thoughts on my team as it currently stands:

Adams, Laird, Hodge, Scharenberg, Hampton, Willis-Vickers (Newman, Long)

Dangerfield, Ablett, Rockliff, Fyfe, Beams, Swallow, Powell-Pepper, Myers (Barrett, Freeman, Graham)

Goldstein, Sandilands (Strndica)

Dalhaus, Deledio, Macrae, Caddy, Roughead, McCarthy (Black, Eddy)


Not spending a huge amount of time on rookies until JLT

Defenders:
Adams: The defender I’m most comfortable with. He was an absolute ball-magnet as a midfielder – I think there’s potential for him to go 105+ this season. For that reason, it’s worth the injury risk. I also think it’s worth giving a young guy a chance to prove his body can hold up. Would be different if he was 29.

Laird: I think he’s a pretty risk-free pick. I can’t see him averaging less than his price. He’s got a lot of class about him.

Hodge: I’m too tempted by his high ceiling. He’s Supercoach royalty as a defender, probably playing more midfield this year.

JJ has been in and out of my side, him and Shaw are the only other defenders I’m really considering. Had a brief dalliance with Hartlett before I came to my senses.

Midfielders:
Dangerfield: No brainer. Don’t even think about not starting him. Consummate professional – you know what you’re getting.

Ablett: I just can see him bouncing out of the gates and running at 125 for the first six rounds. I want to be on the train. He's dealt with so much external pressure, not having to deal with the captaincy will be a godsend. Can see him playing with plenty of freedom. Sub 10% ownership is the clincher.

Rockliff: Absolute lock. I refer back to Rowsus’ post after Rocky’s 135 season. He’ll be a supercoach Hall of Famer, and a captaincy option this year.

Fyfe: No brainer.

Beams: I’ve had a Supercoach man-crush on Beams for a long time, he’s never left my side. An absolute star – he’ll look at 120 if fully-fit and 105-110 in a poor season. Easy choice at his price.

Swallow: I have good memories having ridden him for his entire breakout season. With question marks over rookies, I’m happy to spend the extra $100k for a guy with the potential to go 100+. I’d be content with a 90+ average.

Rucks:
Goldstein: Has swapped with Grundy constantly. I’m very, very concerned about his happiness at the club, his fitness, and his Minutes played this year. He’s all class, so I can’t see him dropping too far. People were happy to pay 128 pts for him last year. But I’ve got some extra cash so he holds for the moment.

Sandilands: No brainer.

Forwards:
Dalhaus: Not sure he’s the lock everyone thinks he is, but still a definite starter for mine.

Deledio: I’ll admit to have been swayed by Dimma’s thoughts. I look back 12 months and I was happy to pay 112pts for him – why wouldn’t I be happy now, to pay a much cheaper price, and a better club for him, where he’ll be desperate to show his best?

Macrae: Lock. Absolute ball-magnet.

Caddy: Thought he was ready to breakout when Danger coming across snuffed out his plans a bit. I think he’ll go 100+ - he’s got huge SC talent.

Roughead: Recent addition. The captaincy swayed me. Each of his last five season over 90, including two seasons over 100. I think he’s too hard to pass up at $360k. You pretty much know what you’re getting.

Super high risk side but I like it! I want a lot of these picks but can't bring myself to start them altogether. I personally prefer Heeney to Caddy. In my side the main structural difference I have is Heppell over Lids with Pickett on field.
Good luck with it!

 

[BomberSam]

T. Mitchell vs. Beams + 130k?

 

[30BucketsofRo]

T. Mitchell vs. Beams + 130k?

Beams, think you might have accidentally posted in the wrong thread tho

 

[BomberSam]

Beams, think you might have accidentally posted in the wrong thread tho

Thanks mate! Yeah, I did too

 

[Tamuhawk]

First go at a Sandi-less team with a bit of reshuffling.

Tamuhawk's Team (V3... i think)
DEF: Shaw, Rance, Laird, Keeffe, Hampton, Newman (Ryan, Stewart)
MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Fyfe, Tmitch, Beams, SPP, Myers (Barrett, Hibberd, Bolton)
RUC: Gawn, Goldy (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahl, Macrae, Roughy, McCarthy, Knight, Pickett (Rioli, Eddy)

Def: The defenders have been a massive headache for me, but I was able to narrow it down to a shortlist of 7. Adams just narrowly missed the cut and sitting as my 4th preference behind the current 3 I chose. Montag/Burger/Hodge were my POD options, but from what I learnt last year... don't just pick them because they are PODs. Could derail my season like it did when I picked Gibson/Houli. (Not saying Montag/Burger/Hodge are the same type of players as Gibson/Houli just to be clear.) Shaw is just a gun and would hate to miss out on the huge scores he gets, Rance has the SC golden ticket and Laird is just so damn consistent.

Mid: My 6 premo's have not changed for awhile. Danger/Pendles set and forget VC/C super premos. JPK ultra consistent. Fyfe underpriced and an ex sc god, only concern is if he can stay on the park for 22 games which he is yet to do in his career. Tom Mitchell (hawks bias). Beams is a bargain and we all know what he is capable of if he's able to stay fit. So that makes it only two risky picks in Fyfe/Beams out of the six.

Ruc: New recruit FEAR THE BEARD! Only good times were in 2015 when I had him, not having him last year definitely hurt. Still prefer Goldy over Grundy. Starting the top 2 priced rucks... what could go wrong? Weird... just experienced a bit of deja vu (Stef Martin ). R3 in Witts traded down back down to Strnadica.

Fwd: Dogs Duo locked and haven't changed. Had to drop my F3 (Lids) to fit Gawny in the rucks so Roughy moves to F3 now. Fwd line looking a tad weak atm.

Seems like a bit of a cookie cutter with not many risks for now but will definitely still tinker with it up until round 1 lockout but I like the way it looks structural wise. Bye planning wise 5 rd11 premo's, 3 rd12 premo's & 5 rd13 premo's which isn't the worst. Also like that 12/14 premo's are from a different team only doubling up with Dahl/Macrae & Tmitch/Roughy (not that it means much scoring wise, just makes watching games a bit more fun sometimes). Not much cash left though, but if needed, I would downgrade Shaw to Adams or drop one of McCarthy/Knight to a cheaper rookie up forward should a good basement price rookie shows up in the JLT.

 

[dicksilverman]

After a lot of chopping and changing with much more to come, I've settled on a lineup i'm happy with. Haven't considered byes at all. Will navigate by trading effectively.

D: Shaw, Rance, Kelly, RRRRR
M: Danger, Pendles, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, Kelly, RRRRR
R: Gawn, Goldy, R
F: Macrae, Caddy, Roughie, RRRRR

Couple of explanations.
James Kelly on watchlist but I like a good scoring POD with history to support the guns.
Josh Kelly....shhhhh i have good reason!
Caddy ready for a breakout at the Tiges.
Roughie.......deserves a ripping year!

welcome feedback! thanks everyone....

 

[DMCC10]

Got a bit bored on uni holidays so thought I'd throw up a team with a complete premo midfield of proven 120+ SC scorers, just taking the **** mainly so don't stress that I am going into the season with this side but thought it was quite interesting what the other lines end up like if you go all out in the mids.

DEF: Adams, McGrath, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman, Ryan (Hibberd, Stewart)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, GAJ, Rockliff, Selwood, JPK, Fyfe, Beams (Myers, SPP, Graham)
RUC: Gawn, Goldstein (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Bennell, McCluggage, Knights, Ainsworth, Bowes (Pickett, Eddy)

SALARY: $7,400

 

[Herbie66]

very very interesting

12 premium started + Bennell

if the cheaper mid & fwd rookies don't present

always thought it was easier to grab a fallen back or forward for around that $480,000.00 to $ 500,000.00 mark

mmmm Heater & Bob in defence , St Nick & Roughy in forward

Myers at M8

 

[freowho]

After a lot of chopping and changing with much more to come, I've settled on a lineup i'm happy with. Haven't considered byes at all. Will navigate by trading effectively.

D: Shaw, Rance, Kelly, RRRRR
M: Danger, Pendles, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, Kelly, RRRRR
R: Gawn, Goldy, R
F: Macrae, Caddy, Roughie, RRRRR

Couple of explanations.
James Kelly on watchlist but I like a good scoring POD with history to support the guns.
Josh Kelly....shhhhh i have good reason!
Caddy ready for a breakout at the Tiges.
Roughie.......deserves a ripping year!

welcome feedback! thanks everyone....

Ploise Exploin!

 

[Prochard]

After a lot of chopping and changing with much more to come, I've settled on a lineup i'm happy with. Haven't considered byes at all. Will navigate by trading effectively.

D: Shaw, Rance, Kelly, RRRRR
M: Danger, Pendles, Rocky, Bont, Fyfe, Kelly, RRRRR
R: Gawn, Goldy, R
F: Macrae, Caddy, Roughie, RRRRR

Couple of explanations.
James Kelly on watchlist but I like a good scoring POD with history to support the guns.
Josh Kelly....shhhhh i have good reason!
Caddy ready for a breakout at the Tiges.
Roughie.......deserves a ripping year!

welcome feedback! thanks everyone....

It's a solid team, but there seems to be some clear contradiction in your approach.

I think we can all agree that Adams represent one of the highest upside of all defenders this year, only thing stopping us from picking is high injury history.

So I'd understand if you leave him out and go for a more durability oriented team. When I looked further I see the likes of Rockliff, Fyfe and I thought: sure I guess going for risky yet proven ultra premiums mids is an alternative. But then I saw the Caddy and Roughhead selection and I got confused.

Let's state the similarities between Adams in defence and Caddy & Roughhead in the forward line:

-All have extreme durability problems especially with Adams and Caddy
-All play for middle of the pack teams
-All require premium output to justify selection

Now, the differences:
-Adams is a guaranteed top scorer by position without injuries (Caddy & Roughhead)
-There is no uncertainty with Adams' role, he will play 95% mid 5% defence/bench (Caddy)
-Adams did not just recover from a significant illness (Roughhead)
-Adams does not need to adjust to a new club's gameplan (Caddy)
-There is only 1 aspect of risk with Adams

So pretty much you go into a 2nd hand store to buy a container for water. You're forced to choose 1. Would you choose the container that leaks water from 1 side (Adams) or opt for other options with only 1 side holding up and every other side spilling water(Caddy, Roughhead)?

I understand that some of us are risk-seeking, which is perfectly fine as in the real world, the ideal portfolios always consists of both risky assets (Adams, Roughhead, Caddy) and risk free assets (Pendlebury, JPK). However when going for the risky options, at the level of risk, you really need to choose the option that maximises return. Assuming Adams, Roughhead, Caddy all play 20 games for the year, it's quite clear that Adams will be the standout choice. The way I see it is, there is only 1 condition that Adams needs to satisfy to become a successful selection-Play out most of the season. Whereas for Roughhead and Caddy, there are a bunch of conditions that need to be met for them to be worthwhile picks.

 

[stephen]

It's a solid team, but there seems to be some clear contradiction in your approach.

I think we can all agree that Adams represent one of the highest upside of all defenders this year, only thing stopping us from picking is high injury history.

So I'd understand if you leave him out and go for a more durability oriented team. When I looked further I see the likes of Rockliff, Fyfe and I thought: sure I guess going for risky yet proven ultra premiums mids is an alternative. But then I saw the Caddy and Roughhead selection and I got confused.

Let's state the similarities between Adams in defence and Caddy & Roughhead in the forward line:

-All have extreme durability problems especially with Adams and Caddy
-All play for middle of the pack teams
-All require premium output to justify selection

Now, the differences:
-Adams is a guaranteed top scorer by position without injuries (Caddy & Roughhead)
-There is no uncertainty with Adams' role, he will play 95% mid 5% defence/bench (Caddy)
-Adams did not just recover from a significant illness (Roughhead)
-Adams does not need to adjust to a new club's gameplan (Caddy)
-There is only 1 aspect of risk with Adams

So pretty much you go into a 2nd hand store to buy a container for water. You're forced to choose 1. Would you choose the container that leaks water from 1 side (Adams) or opt for other options with only 1 side holding up and every other side spilling water(Caddy, Roughhead)?

I understand that some of us are risk-seeking, which is perfectly fine as in the real world, the ideal portfolios always consists of both risky assets (Adams, Roughhead, Caddy) and risk free assets (Pendlebury, JPK). However when going for the risky options, at the level of risk, you really need to choose the option that maximises return. Assuming Adams, Roughhead, Caddy all play 20 games for the year, it's quite clear that Adams will be the standout choice. The way I see it is, there is only 1 condition that Adams needs to satisfy to become a successful selection-Play out most of the season. Whereas for Roughhead and Caddy, there are a bunch of conditions that need to be met for them to be worthwhile picks.

Disagree with the bolded part.

If Roughhead plays 20 at his recent historical average (95-100) and Adams plays 20 at his recent historical average (95-100), or even breaks out with no injury-impacted games and with improved disposal and goes at (100-105) then Roughhead is by far the better selection because he has outscored his price by ~30 points whereas Adams has only outscored his price by 8 points (in the ideal version) and both will presumably have become keepers (in the top 10 or so of their line and not more than ~5/RD below the 6th best in their line). A FWD keeper for $367k is pure gold. A DEF keeper for $527k is par for the course.

If you take an injury risk there should be a high value upside to o***et it.

I don't think Adams is a bad pick (partly because I'm not convinced he's as big an injury risk as his game counts first suggest) but his upside value to his price isn't huge.

Re Caddy I'm not enamoured with him either but he's got a bit of upside (no more than Adams, I'd guess) and not a particularly scary downside.

The other big difference is who they're competing with for a spot in your side. I can think of 6 or so I'd happily pick in the backline instead of Adams. Not so the forward line.

 

[Juzzo]

It's a solid team, but there seems to be some clear contradiction in your approach.

I think we can all agree that Adams represent one of the highest upside of all defenders this year, only thing stopping us from picking is high injury history.

So I'd understand if you leave him out and go for a more durability oriented team. When I looked further I see the likes of Rockliff, Fyfe and I thought: sure I guess going for risky yet proven ultra premiums mids is an alternative. But then I saw the Caddy and Roughhead selection and I got confused.

Let's state the similarities between Adams in defence and Caddy & Roughhead in the forward line:

-All have extreme durability problems especially with Adams and Caddy
-All play for middle of the pack teams
-All require premium output to justify selection

Now, the differences:
-Adams is a guaranteed top scorer by position without injuries (Caddy & Roughhead)
-There is no uncertainty with Adams' role, he will play 95% mid 5% defence/bench (Caddy)
-Adams did not just recover from a significant illness (Roughhead)
-Adams does not need to adjust to a new club's gameplan (Caddy)
-There is only 1 aspect of risk with Adams

So pretty much you go into a 2nd hand store to buy a container for water. You're forced to choose 1. Would you choose the container that leaks water from 1 side (Adams) or opt for other options with only 1 side holding up and every other side spilling water(Caddy, Roughhead)?

I understand that some of us are risk-seeking, which is perfectly fine as in the real world, the ideal portfolios always consists of both risky assets (Adams, Roughhead, Caddy) and risk free assets (Pendlebury, JPK). However when going for the risky options, at the level of risk, you really need to choose the option that maximises return. Assuming Adams, Roughhead, Caddy all play 20 games for the year, it's quite clear that Adams will be the standout choice. The way I see it is, there is only 1 condition that Adams needs to satisfy to become a successful selection-Play out most of the season. Whereas for Roughhead and Caddy, there are a bunch of conditions that need to be met for them to be worthwhile picks.

Remind me not to post my team.
My secondhand water container would have no bottom.

 

[Prochard]

Disagree with the bolded part.

If Roughhead plays 20 at his recent historical average (95-100) and Adams plays 20 at his recent historical average (95-100), or even breaks out with no injury-impacted games and with improved disposal and goes at (100-105) then Roughhead is by far the better selection because he has outscored his price by ~30 points whereas Adams has only outscored his price by 8 points (in the ideal version) and both will presumably have become keepers (in the top 10 or so of their line and not more than ~5/RD below the 6th best in their line). A FWD keeper for $367k is pure gold. A DEF keeper for $527k is par for the course.

If you take an injury risk there should be a high value upside to o***et it.

I don't think Adams is a bad pick (partly because I'm not convinced he's as big an injury risk as his game counts first suggest) but his upside value to his price isn't huge.

Re Caddy I'm not enamoured with him either but he's got a bit of upside (no more than Adams, I'd guess) and not a particularly scary downside.

The other big difference is who they're competing with for a spot in your side. I can think of 6 or so I'd happily pick in the backline instead of Adams. Not so the forward line.

Yeah i think you might've missed the point or I might've not made myself clear. The point is if all 3 played 20 games, Adams would be an almost guaranteed keeper whereas the likes of Roughhead and Caddy may still play at a sub-optimal level. Roughhead in particular even if he plays 20 games I can't imagine him averaging 95-100 after the illness and treatment he went through last year. He could, but the chance is much, much less than Adams being a successful pick.

 

[stephen]

Yes, sorry, I guess I assumed that in a world where he played 20 games he was at full fitness and therefore the same scoring capacity, which is pretty much how I see it - if he's out there and playing I can't see why it would be at full pelt both in real and SC terms.

 

[Courtesans]

Remind me not to post my team.
My secondhand water container would have no bottom.

Hey man, don't take it like that. Prochard gave a detailed opinion in good faith.

If my side sucks or question my logic please do, you to.

All friends here mate

 

[Plo Koon]

Got a bit bored on uni holidays so thought I'd throw up a team with a complete premo midfield of proven 120+ SC scorers, just taking the **** mainly so don't stress that I am going into the season with this side but thought it was quite interesting what the other lines end up like if you go all out in the mids.

DEF: Adams, McGrath, Scharenberg, Hampton, Newman, Ryan (Hibberd, Stewart)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, GAJ, Rockliff, Selwood, JPK, Fyfe, Beams (Myers, SPP, Graham)
RUC: Gawn, Goldstein (Strnadica)
FWD: Dahlhaus, Bennell, McCluggage, Knights, Ainsworth, Bowes (Pickett, Eddy)

SALARY: $7,400

This idea but done in a way that is plausible:

DEF: Adams, Laird, Johannisen, Scharenberg, Hibberd, Ryan (Hewett, Stewart)
MID: Dangerfield, Pendlebury, Kennedy, Treloar, Rockliff, Bontempelli, Fyfe, Beams (Myers, SPP, Graham)
RUC: Grundy, Witts (Strnadica)
FWD: Heeney, Bennell, Roughead, Pickett, Hannan, Bolton (Long, Eddy)

 

[Juzzo]

Hey man, don't take it like that. Prochard gave a detailed opinion in good faith.

If my side sucks or question my logic please do, you to.

All friends here mate

I wasn't having a go at anyone or anyone's team except my own.
I have a lot of risky picks on all lines atm, hence the bottomless container "joke"

Just adding a bit of humour directed at my own team.

 

[BomberSam]

Cristapol FC v.2.0

DEF: Shaw, Adams, Laird, Keeffe, Scharenberg, Ryan (Stewart, Long)
MID: Danger, Pendles, JPK, Bont, Fyfe, Beams, Powell-Pepper, Myers (Freeman, Bolton, Graham)
RUC: Gawn, Goldstein (McInerney (FD))
FWD: Dahlhaus, Macrae, Roughead, McCarthy, Pickett, Eddy (Black, Strnadica)

Cash left: 83.1k

As few midpricers/speculative picks as possible. Roughead I am happy to gamble on.
I am still considering Doch over Shaw and potentially Ablett over Bontempelli.

 

[Junior Wölf]

Sandi injured has completely ruined my structure. It looks nice having set and forget but at the cost of Macrae getting the boot (and 3x$200k forward rookies!!!)

Def: Doc, Shaw, Laird, Scharenberg, Hampton, Hibberd (Newman, Ryan)

Mid: Danger, JPK, Treloar, Fyfe, Titchell, SPS, Bowes, SPP (Myers, Barrett, Graham)

Ruck: Gawn, Goldy (Cameron)

FWD: Dahl, Caddy, Heeney, McCarthy, Knight, McCluggage (Pickett, Deluca)

I can't afford Macrae, so I have to stick with Caddy (who I think will be a reasonable pick this season).

So many expensive rookies. I don't like the idea that Beams might have a trade over his head. Titchell is the first mid to leave and would love Pendles but need an extra $80k.

Thanks for suggestions.