Opinion Rant!

[OzRulesFootball]

is their still anything such as incorrect disposal when a player gets tackled , I am under the impression you need to kick it or handball not this it away , drop it or hand it off.

Maybe I have got it completely wrong

The grey area is whether the umpire considers the players to have prior opportunity. If he thinks the player has he should pay a free to tackler. If not he going to just let it play on and players get ball that now is being contested. We are not in umpires exact space and mind to know what he is thinking. Also if he is unsure himself he simply going to not blow his whistle. The worst thing any umpire can do is guess and blow whistle.

 

[Santoz]

I used to think that way too but these days there is "attempted" disposal, which is absolute nonsense because you either disposed of it legally or illegally...

not just today , every single game I have watched

attempted ??? again open to every umpires interpretation

exactly you dispose of it or you don't

just umpire to the rules

so frustrating to watch

Very much a grey area.

The ball being knocked out in the tackle seems to be something the umpires let go. In my mind that's always been incorrect or illegal disposal.

 

[Zimmer]

Very much a grey area.

The ball being knocked out in the tackle seems to be something the umpires let go. In my mind that's always been incorrect or illegal disposal.

Exactly - they have taken possession ( and if they've had time to dispose of it properly, you are 'caught with the ball' or 'holding the ball' in the old language). You can't just hold the ball until you find a teammate. Pisses me off no end. It used to be a period of time, (you are tackled you have a time to correctly dispose of the ball: a rule that equally honours the player in possession and the tackler. Now it's just throw it, drop it, put it on the ground, set up around the contest, play on....

 

[blue dreamer]

On this point in the second quarter on Wednesday (the only quarter I saw on my break at work) Rioli gathered the ball near the boundary, ran along it, dropped the ball inside ran around picked it up again and continued forward.

Seemed a deliberate act to me and clearly not a correct disposal, no whistle or even comment from the commentators??

 

[PC]

On this point in the second quarter on Wednesday (the only quarter I saw on my break at work) Rioli gathered the ball near the boundary, ran along it, dropped the ball inside ran around picked it up again and continued forward.

Seemed a deliberate act to me and clearly not a correct disposal, no whistle or even comment from the commentators??

That's just 'clever footy' Blue Dreamer...

The incorrect disposal rule really gets my blood up - reward the tackler! If the other bloke loses not by handpassing or kicking the ball while being tackled, then he shouldn't be allowed to contest and get it back again 3 secs later. If he holds onto it, then it's holding the ball.

Quickest way to get rid of congestion is to have the ball kicked and an effective way of getting that to happen is to give a free to a player...

 

[blue dreamer]

That's just 'clever footy' Blue Dreamer...

The incorrect disposal rule really gets my blood up - reward the tackler! If the other bloke loses not by handpassing or kicking the ball while being tackled, then he shouldn't be allowed to contest and get it back again 3 secs later. If he holds onto it, then it's holding the ball.

Quickest way to get rid of congestion is to have the ball kicked and an effective way of getting that to happen is to give a free to a player...

It might be clever but he still dropped the ball which is an incorrect disposal and should have led to a Melbourne free.

 

[Goodie's Guns]

It might be clever but he still dropped the ball which is an incorrect disposal and should have led to a Melbourne free.

Wasn't it a bounce? Not the traditional style we have come to know, but technically it was a bounce and he wasn't being tackled at the time so play on.

 

[elzorko16]

Wasn't it a bounce? Not the traditional style we have come to know, but technically it was a bounce and he wasn't being tackled at the time so play on.

Remember the incident, it looked like he just wanted to get rid of the ball so if he was tackled he would not be deemed to be in possession. He didn't kick or handball, or attempt to kick or handball, he had the ball in open hand with arm extended and threw the ball out in front of him, horribly clever but techinally probably not correct!

 

[Beg2Differ]

Remember the incident, it looked like he just wanted to get rid of the ball so if he was tackled he would not be deemed to be in possession. He didn't kick or handball, or attempt to kick or handball, he had the ball in open hand with arm extended and threw the ball out in front of him, horribly clever but techinally probably not correct!

I believe if you bounce the ball (which is what I would say Rioli did) then you are deemed to be in possession and can be tackled. The tackler would be awarded a free kick in that circumstance. This is the old Kevin Bartlett rule.

 

[OzRulesFootball]

I believe if you bounce the ball (which is what I would say Rioli did) then you are deemed to be in possession and can be tackled. The tackler would be awarded a free kick in that circumstance. This is the old Kevin Bartlett rule.

He was a sneaky little bastard.

 

[jones711]

I do wish Damian Barrett would just shut up for a while. In previous years I thought he was OK and I enjoy watching the Access All Areas show with Jimmy Bartel and Matthew Lloyd on the AFL website. This year he seems to have joined the growing pack of sideline idiots who try to BE the story each week rather than report the stories that are relevant.

 

[Shaahorn]

I want to complain about people who complain about CD scoring.

Play AFL Fantasy exclusive if you want to know what your stats are worth

 

[Impromptu]

Robbie Gray what’s going on mate? ????

Lucky I have the better Gray brother in Draft ???

 

[BlueNwhiteHoops]

One Mr Boak.

Who'd of thunk hey? That Sir Travis of Boak would be a bloody must have player. Even now, as I type this I still keep telling myself ''It's ok Bob, he can't maintain a 120 average, he'll slow down sooner or later''.

 

[Bomber18]

Robbie Gray what’s going on mate? ????

Lucky I have the better Gray brother in Draft ???

Billings 2.0. Want to trade him but afraid he’ll come good once I do ?????

Might just use him as my excuse to get JD!

 

[Rowsus]

One Mr Boak.

Who'd of thunk hey? That Sir Travis of Boak would be a bloody must have player. Even now, as I type this I still keep telling myself ''It's ok Bob, he can't maintain a 120 average, he'll slow down sooner or later''.

I traded him out in AFL Fantasy this week!

I got the last laugh ........ he didn't reach his B/E!

 

[Zoku Pops]

Billings 2.0. Want to trade him but afraid he’ll come good once I do ?????

Might just use him as my excuse to get JD!

Genuinely considering this. Sidewaysing / upgrading him will only turn out badly, but a downgrade to Joey, I can probably justify that!

 

[blue dreamer]

Wasn't it a bounce? Not the traditional style we have come to know, but technically it was a bounce and he wasn't being tackled at the time so play on.

Sorry for the late reply, haven't been online much of late I don't consider it a bounce when from memory he had his hand under the ball holding it like carrying a large egg ( given the shape of the ball an analogy that came quickly to mind) and removed his hand to let it drop to ground rather than pushing the ball out to bounce it a la Bartlett.

Yes it was clever.

No I don't want to bang on about it, and yet seems that I am

 

[PC]

F you Darling.

 

[Tamuhawk]

Rocky you spud!!!