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Little bit curious why you put Laird in the category with Daniel and Crisp as a "non-intercepting" type. Laird averaged 9.0 IPs per game in 2018 (4th overall) and 7.2 IPs per game in 2019 (13th overall). Agree that perhaps Daniel and Crisp are more the "accumulator" rather than "interceptor" types.
It was purely based on my observations, no stats...but the stats seems to say otherwise. I always felt that Keith was their main interceptor and that Laird was playing more up the ground, but then again that's only my own recollection and I don't admit to watching everyone of his games in seasons gone by.
 

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Funny enough tho Crisp 24 games 154 Intercepts 34 Intercept marks. Laird 22 games 159 Intercepts 27 Intercept marks.
Maybe both are missing the elite long kicks...:D

I had players like Sicily, Howe & Docherty when I was making this comparison.
 

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I made my earlier comment without thinking too much, I forgot it's panic stations at the moment with the last minute SC tweaking...! XD

So you are loading up on rebounding defenders?

Edit: or you think the rookie defenders will play a rebounding role and score well so you are loading up on rookies in defence?
A little bit of both. I'm now very comfortable with Roberton, Noble and BZT types on field. Brander/B.Williams/Starcevich, I'm not as sure. But seeing guys like Weitering go something like 50DT/100SC and even SPS going 60DT/110SC and Baker going 46DT/91 SC, makes me a bit more confident in Noble/BZT. Even Liam Jones & Astbury went 37 DT / 64 SC and 49DT / 90SC respectively.

I brought in Whitfield and Laird. Whitfield I'm still not certain on but Laird is one I definitely want.

Budarick plays a rebounding "intercepting" role so I think he could score really well. You'd hate to miss a 90 because he's stuck at M11 rather than F6.

I'dm still a little cautious about reading too much into it, I think the game played last night won't be typical of many sides, was a pretty ordinary standard but who knows, certainly hasn't been any scoring changes I'm aware of but understand it couild be a fall-out of reduced time, still like to see more. Unfortunately though regardless of reduced time I expected tonights game will also suit Caleb Daniel and Crisp.
I'd be very wary of reading anything into a data set with a sample size of 1. It's one game out of hundreds. I'm probably not going to load up on players with neck tattoos because Dusty scored well. Better to stick with what we know, than make sweeping inferences based on one game of footy.
Yeah look, I agree with those points. It's only one sample size so we shouldn't read into it too much but it is also the only sample size we have to go off to get somewhat of an insight into the effect of the shorter games. There were too many "intercept" defenders with abnormally high DT / SC ratios for me to ignore. Will be interested to see if that trend continues with your J.Howe and Moore types tonight.
 
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Maybe both are missing the elite long kicks...:D

I had players like Sicily, Howe & Docherty when I was making this comparison.
Yeh i was just replying to that 1 comment between those 2 Laird vs Crisp. Atm i'm banking on the Key Back Intercept type.
 
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How many rookie forwards is too many?

Almost feel like dropping Brayshaw to Cavarra and upgrading Starveich to a 400k defender.

Would give me Georgiades, Taylor, Cavarra, Sturt and King as my fwd line rookies.
I’m going in with 4 with the intention of getting one off field ASAP. Would be nice if Steven misses 3 or 4 so we can cut some rookies early to jump on before his price rises, wishful thinking probably
 
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I made my earlier comment without thinking too much, I forgot it's panic stations at the moment with the last minute SC tweaking...! XD



A little bit of both. I'm now very comfortable with Roberton, Noble and BZT types on field. Brander/B.Williams/Starcevich, I'm not as sure. But seeing guys like Weitering go something like 50DT/100SC and even SPS going 60DT/110SC and Baker going 46DT/91 SC, makes me a bit more confident in Noble/BZT. Even Liam Jones & Astbury went 37 DT / 64 SC and 49DT / 90SC respectively.

I brought in Whitfield and Laird. Whitfield I'm still not certain on but Laird is one I definitely want.

Budarick plays a rebounding "intercepting" role so I think he could score really well. You'd hate to miss a 90 because he's stuck at M11 rather than F6.




Yeah look, I agree with those points. It's only one sample size so we shouldn't read into it too much but it is also the only sample size we have to go off to get somewhat of an insight into the effect of the shorter games. There were too many "intercept" defenders with abnormally high DT / SC ratios for me to ignore. Will be interested to see if that trend continues with your J.Howe and Moore types tonight.
Who takes the M11 spot if you push Budarick forward seems to be the problem. If Starcevic or Robertson get named it probably works but I’m not confident they make the cut.

Bit of an awkward spot where we probably want both Brander and Buda on the ground but it just doesn’t seem feasible.
 
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Who takes the M11 spot if you push Budarick forward seems to be the problem. If Starcevic or Robertson get named it probably works but I’m not confident they make the cut.

But if an awkward spot where we probably want both Brander and Buda on the ground but it just doesn’t seem feasible.
That's my exact dilemma which I'm trying to reconcile at the moment. I don't see how I can have both Brander and Budarick on-field without having to take a few higher priced Rookies to sit on the bench (which is against my 'normal' way of thinking).
 

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Who takes the M11 spot if you push Budarick forward seems to be the problem. If Starcevic or Robertson get named it probably works but I’m not confident they make the cut.

Bit of an awkward spot where we probably want both Brander and Buda on the ground but it just doesn’t seem feasible.
I may push it and go Anderson, McInerney and Brown on mid bench if both Starcevich and Robertson don't get named. Could follow up with Brander, B.Williams on the def bench. I'm running by the assumption that at least one of Starcevich/Robertson will get named. If they don't, you're right, it's probably not as feasible but it can be done if you "push it".
 
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I may push it and go Anderson, McInerney and Brown on mid bench if both Starcevich and Robertson don't get named. Could follow up with Brander, B.Williams on the def bench. I'm running by the assumption that at least one of Starcevich/Robertson will get named. If they don't, you're right, it's probably not as feasible but it can be done if you "push it".
You'd think if Robertson was getting named we would've had an announcement celebrating his debut/selection?
 

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You'd think if Robertson was getting named we would've had an announcement celebrating his debut/selection?
I agree. I was running by the assumption that Starcevich would play. He's already debuted so wouldn't have such annoucement.

FWIW my current bench is:
(Brander, B.Williams)
Pickett (Starcevich, McInerney, Brown)
(Xerri)
Budarick (Cavara, Taylor)

If Taylor not named, I'll get King. If Starcevich and B.Williams are both not named, I'll have to rethink my current on field structure but may end up with Anderson and McAsey taking the spots of a non-playing Starcevich and Xerri.
 
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I may push it and go Anderson, McInerney and Brown on mid bench if both Starcevich and Robertson don't get named. Could follow up with Brander, B.Williams on the def bench. I'm running by the assumption that at least one of Starcevich/Robertson will get named. If they don't, you're right, it's probably not as feasible but it can be done if you "push it".
Hoping Williams/Starc is named so i can have Williams at R3 and Starc/Brander at d7-8. Then if Grundy goes big 2night ill put a Donut in mids to get Pickett(E) and the VC score if worthwile.
 
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I may push it and go Anderson, McInerney and Brown on mid bench if both Starcevich and Robertson don't get named. Could follow up with Brander, B.Williams on the def bench. I'm running by the assumption that at least one of Starcevich/Robertson will get named. If they don't, you're right, it's probably not as feasible but it can be done if you "push it".
I just can’t find the money for Anderson, especially on the bench. I played a bit with Rayner at F4 in a moment of madness this morning which allows Mcasey and Anderson but 160k on the bench just feels like such a waste.

Looking forward to seeing what you’ve done with your ruck line mate, expecting a curveball or two.
 

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Hoping Williams/Starc is named so i can have Williams at R3 and Starc/Brander at d7-8. Then if Grundy goes big 2night ill put a Donut in mids to get Pickett(E) and the VC score if worthwile.
That all sounds a great strategy. FWIW I think everyone with Pickett E should definitely start a loophole to get that score. Points on ground is key this year. We have two trades to use each week pretty much. You may have lost one if you need to correct it down the track, but chances are, we probably don't have "good" trades to do in R3-4 anyway so it's not the end of the world.
 

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I agree. I was running by the assumption that Starcevich would play. He's already debuted so wouldn't have such annoucement.

FWIW my current bench is:
(Brander, B.Williams)
Pickett (Starcevich, McInerney, Brown)
(Xerri)
Budarick (Cavara, Taylor)

If Taylor not named, I'll get King. If Starcevich and B.Williams are both not named, I'll have to rethink my current on field structure but may end up with Anderson and McAsey taking the spots of a non-playing Starcevich and Xerri.
With the exception of Xerri (Comben for me), I have the exact same bench as it stands!
 

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I just can’t find the money for Anderson, especially on the bench. I played a bit with Rayner at F4 in a moment of madness this morning which allows Mcasey and Anderson but 160k on the bench just feels like such a waste.

Looking forward to seeing what you’ve done with your ruck line mate, expecting a curveball or two.
I've flipped so hard with NN R2 or not and potentially may end up with something like NN R2 and Naismith R3. I think no matter what happens, I'm taking Naismith, I think as a clear sole ruck his scoring potential is too high so I'd hate to miss out him as a cash cow. Even Soldo and Casboult scored tons last night and Kreuzer scored 33 from a qtr (let's conveniently "ignore" what Nank scored :p ). ATM it is just Naismith R2 for me.

I'm very open to taking a few premium compromises on field if needed to fit in playing rookies on bench. We have the trades to side ways those 400-450k types this season but it's much harder to get 1-2 basement rookies up to a 200k rookies down the track if it turns out that McAsey and Anderson types are the better picks.
 
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That all sounds a great strategy. FWIW I think everyone with Pickett E should definitely start a loophole to get that score. Points on ground is key this year. We have two trades to use each week pretty much. You may have lost one if you need to correct it down the track, but chances are, we probably don't have "good" trades to do in R3-4 anyway so it's not the end of the world.
Yeh for me ill pass on the donut if it's not a worthy VC score.
 
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I just can’t find the money for Anderson, especially on the bench. I played a bit with Rayner at F4 in a moment of madness this morning which allows Mcasey and Anderson but 160k on the bench just feels like such a waste.

Looking forward to seeing what you’ve done with your ruck line mate, expecting a curveball or two.
yessssssssss

good to see someone else has considered Rayner.
 
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ok - so I give up, how are people filling in their backline? If either Starc or Williams aren't named, then we will need to pay 180 odd for a nonplaying bench. Is this what others are doing? Floating doesn't work unless Stark is named either, right? I guess if neither named, I'm going in with a backline donut.
 

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ok - so I give up, how are people filling in their backline? If either Starc or Williams aren't named, then we will need to pay 180 odd for a nonplaying bench. Is this what others are doing? Floating doesn't work unless Stark is named either, right? I guess if neither named, I'm going in with a backline donut.
If both B.Williams and Starcevich aren't named, I will be moving B.Williams to R3 and trying to compromise my on field "14th keeper" position to get McAsey and Anderson in. Others may choose to start donuts, but I've taken the view that it's better to have playing rookies from the start.

FWIW I think both B.Williams and Starcevich WILL be named. Surely no way that WCE play both Hickey and NN. If they do, I think we can cross out NN as well.
 
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