Discussion Rookie Discussion

Herbie66

Herbie66

#1,421
Joined
25 Jul 2012
Messages
47,728
Likes
107,809
AFL Club
Collingwood
#1,421
Round 1 Rookies under $ 210k

✓ = pass mark

Graham 31
Guthrie 21
BZT 49
McAsey 16
Murphy 35
Brander * 59

Rowell 80 ✓
Anderson 42
Green 41
Starcevich * 28
Brown 64 ✓
McInerney 81 ✓
Pickett 94 ✓
Robertson 47
Budarick * 44

Schultz 51
Stengle 56
Frampton 45
Kropenyeri-Pickett 57
Gardner 44
Georgiades 78 ✓
Bedford 29
Cavarra 32
Davis 51
King 42
Sturt 100 ? ✓
Taylor 79 ✓
 
Last edited:
30BucketsofRo

30BucketsofRo

#1,422
Joined
25 Jan 2013
Messages
1,570
Likes
1,373
AFL Club
Essendon
#1,422
Is Sam Sturt looking like a must have? Didn't watch the game. 61 DT to 100 SC, and that seems boosted because of his late goal. Does he seem like he can maintain a 60-70 average as a forward? Does he tackle and also use the ball well? Take marks?
Thanks in advance
 
Herbie66

Herbie66

#1,425
Joined
25 Jul 2012
Messages
47,728
Likes
107,809
AFL Club
Collingwood
#1,425
30BucketsofRo said:
Is Sam Sturt looking like a must have? Didn't watch the game. 61 DT to 100 SC, and that seems boosted because of his late goal. Does he seem like he can maintain a 60-70 average as a forward? Does he tackle and also use the ball well? Take marks?
Thanks in advance
Click to expand...
Why compare to DT though when DT scores are going to be 20% less than last season's scores for everyone ?
 
30BucketsofRo

30BucketsofRo

#1,426
Joined
25 Jan 2013
Messages
1,570
Likes
1,373
AFL Club
Essendon
#1,426
Herbie66 said:
Why compare to DT though when DT scores are going to be 20% less than last season's scores for everyone ?
Click to expand...
If my maths is correct - and it very likely isn’t lol- are you suggesting that Sturt would have scored an extra 12 DT points (0.2 x 61 = 12.2) in a normal 20 minute game for his performance yesterday?
I mentioned DT to SC because we have used that as an indicator to see whether scoring is sustainable, if that makes sense. He kicked 3 goals, which for a rookie usually isn’t the norm, plus the weighting his score got for when he kicked his goal. Plus his final goal was a ‘free kick for’ so I think that’s a few more points?
I’m just trying to get an overall picture of how well he actually played
 
Herbie66

Herbie66

#1,428
Joined
25 Jul 2012
Messages
47,728
Likes
107,809
AFL Club
Collingwood
#1,428
30BucketsofRo said:
If my maths is correct - and it very likely isn’t lol- are you suggesting that Sturt would have scored an extra 12 DT points (0.2 x 61 = 12.2) in a normal 20 minute game for his performance yesterday?
I mentioned DT to SC because we have used that as an indicator to see whether scoring is sustainable, if that makes sense. He kicked 3 goals, which for a rookie usually isn’t the norm, plus the weighting his score got for when he kicked his goal. Plus his final goal was a ‘free kick for’ so I think that’s a few more points?
I’m just trying to get an overall picture of how well he actually played
Click to expand...
I've got no idea to be honest.

Given the game has been cut my 20% and DT/Fantasy have set scores for each action by a individual player I just assumed (maybe wrongly) that all DT/Fantasy would be lower than previous seasons because their is less time available.

Personally find the DT:SC comparisons can over complicate things too much as they are 2 different scoring systems.

I guess in the DT/Fantasy players are scored equally & fairly on what they actually do in the time provided to do it , which is a lot clearer and not biased in anyway

You are right though , he probably won't score 3 goals per game and weighting should be taken into account , similar to how Son Son's average last season is "over inflated" due to 2 match winning goals late.
 
Hondo

Hondo

#1,429
Joined
13 Mar 2012
Messages
2,790
Likes
2,985
AFL Club
Adelaide
#1,429
I’d back in Sturt for a poor game next up. Normally you’d wait that extra week but this year is different. Small forwards are either feast or famine usually.
 
Zimmer

Zimmer

#1,430
Joined
10 Feb 2014
Messages
11,375
Likes
21,228
AFL Club
Essendon
#1,430
I've had a **** of a weekend family emergency wise, which means I've made a number of mistakes and my rookies are all over the shop.

Are there any viable rookies left today in mid and or defence? As I've still got Bonar/Robertson on my bench. Thanks for any help offered.
 
Hondo

Hondo

#1,431
Joined
13 Mar 2012
Messages
2,790
Likes
2,985
AFL Club
Adelaide
#1,431
Zimmer said:
I've had a **** of a weekend family emergency wise, which means I've made a number of mistakes and my rookies are all over the shop.

Are there any viable rookies left today in mid and or defence? As I've still got Bonar/Robertson on my bench. Thanks for any help offered.
Click to expand...
I think only Starcevich
 
F

freowho

#1,432
Joined
27 Jan 2014
Messages
6,769
Likes
14,766
AFL Club
Fremantle
#1,432
Hondo said:
I’d back in Sturt for a poor game next up. Normally you’d wait that extra week but this year is different. Small forwards are either feast or famine usually.
Click to expand...
I'm thinking of skipping Sturt and Georgiades and dropping some overpriced players given the scoring looks volatile. There were some good rookies that missed round 1 and might be available soon. The question is trading a $100k rookie for a $150k rookie vs a premium that might drop $100k. I might do 1 of each. Drop a premium and pick up a better rookie. Dunkley down to Prestia, Coniglio or maybe further to a Viney (see how he goes today).
It's now a matter of using trades just for the sake of it!


Can't help feel it's all for nothing but how else am I going to waste my time. I do have a skipping rope covered in cobwebs.:rolleyes:
 
Darkie

Darkie

Leadership Group
#1,433
Joined
12 Apr 2014
Messages
25,401
Likes
65,467
AFL Club
Collingwood
#1,433
Zimmer said:
I've had a **** of a weekend family emergency wise, which means I've made a number of mistakes and my rookies are all over the shop.

Are there any viable rookies left today in mid and or defence? As I've still got Bonar/Robertson on my bench. Thanks for any help offered.
Click to expand...
Could also try Brander if you don't already have him, or Def-Ruc Williams from WC ... who is not playing this week but is some chat to play next week. I have both.

Also Kropinyeri-Pickett or Bedford (doesn't look great but he's playing) from Mel if you need a fwd rookie. If you had someone like Trac (M-F) you may be Ablett to swing something via DPP.

Hibberd as a DTP if you think he'll get a run soon.
 
Herbie66

Herbie66

#1,434
Joined
25 Jul 2012
Messages
47,728
Likes
107,809
AFL Club
Collingwood
#1,434
Herbie66 said:
Round 1 Rookies under $ 210k

✓ = pass mark

Graham 31
Guthrie 21
BZT 49
McAsey 16
Murphy 35
Brander * 59

Rowell 80 ✓
Anderson 42
Green 41
Starcevich * 28
Brown 64 ✓
McInerney 81 ✓
Pickett 94 ✓
Robertson 47
Budarick * 44

Schultz 51
Stengle 56
Frampton 45
Kropenyeri-Pickett 57
Gardner 44
Georgiades 78 ✓
Bedford 29
Cavarra 32
Davis 51
King 42
Sturt 100 ? ✓
Taylor 79 ✓
Click to expand...
All updated

Based on that we could probably play onfield :-

D:
M: Pickett , McInerney , Rowell , Brown
R: NA
F: Sturt , Taylor , Georgiades

Defence would have caused issues especially with Roberton failing as well.
 
Herbie66

Herbie66

#1,436
Joined
25 Jul 2012
Messages
47,728
Likes
107,809
AFL Club
Collingwood
#1,436
Herbie66 said:
Round 1 Rookies under $ 210k

✓ = pass mark

Graham 31
Guthrie 21
BZT 49
McAsey 16
Murphy 35
Brander * 59

Rowell 80 ✓
Anderson 42
Green 41
Starcevich * 28
Brown 64 ✓
McInerney 81 ✓
Pickett 94 ✓
Robertson 47
Budarick * 44

Schultz 51
Stengle 56
Frampton 45
Kropenyeri-Pickett 57
Gardner 44
Georgiades 78 ✓
Bedford 29
Cavarra 32
Davis 51
King 42
Sturt 100 ? ✓
Taylor 79 ✓
Click to expand...
some might find this useful to start planning again ? or a reminder of how bleak most of the rookies went in Round 1 ?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top