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I have been finding this site handy for looking at players T20 form by the match in comps around the world. For example, here is a link to Dan Christian who was being mentioned earlier ... http://bigbashboard.com/player/daniel-christian/log
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Hey guys, this is what I'm currently thinking of going with. I've got 10k in the bank, currently got McDermott on the bench if he scores big first match switch Dunk for Nielsen if not hope Dunks two games score greater then McDermotts average or poor game. Same sort of theory with Short as vice captain but it would have to be massive as I trust Stonis will score very well for his two games. Billy Stanlake scores well in his first game I'll switch Tye with Ahmad (assuming ahmad doesn't play round one).
Haven't thought too much further then round one but main questions would be:
- Gotch or Dunk?
- McDermott or Handscomb?
- Will Ingram bowl?
- How many stars to trade out for the DGW strikers? (I was thinking Zampa for R Khan, Maxwell for Salts, not sure about Renshaw)
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Awesome, thank you!
On that basis they really aren’t a must start, unless you think they will go materially above 50/game early on.
I guess in a way it makes sense.
If you start a player in AFL who you think is worth $600k, but you can get them for $400k, it’s not like they rise to c. $600k quickly, even if you are correct. The cash gen takes time.
On that basis they really aren’t a must start, unless you think they will go materially above 50/game early on.
I guess in a way it makes sense.
If you start a player in AFL who you think is worth $600k, but you can get them for $400k, it’s not like they rise to c. $600k quickly, even if you are correct. The cash gen takes time.
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DC is another iffy one. Not on my radar to start but with so many of the Sixers squad unavailable early rds, DC should get much better opportunities with bat and ball.
Damned if I do, damnes if I don't. 🤔🤔🤔
Should add that Sixers play relatively early from rd 1-6.100K player as E to check his score first might just work.
Damned if I do, damnes if I don't. 🤔🤔🤔
Should add that Sixers play relatively early from rd 1-6.100K player as E to check his score first might just work.
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I like your structure and thinking with tweaking your team as the round unfolds - something I will be definitely doing.
I also like the Turner pick, but not straight up on field. Can you run a loop in your bats and just bring him in as a back up option?
With regards to Stanlake, I think you need to back him in on field or not at all. I think a better play would be to try and loop a Canes bowler in game 1, then decide if you want Stanlake or otherwise.
The number of Stars you trade out will depend on who you want. You currently look like you could have 8-10 DGW players in round 2. Therefore you will only be fielding 1-3 SGW players. You may need to check you won’t be putting yourself in a position of having to leave a SGW “premium” on the bench, so don’t be scared to trade them out.
I also like the Turner pick, but not straight up on field. Can you run a loop in your bats and just bring him in as a back up option?
With regards to Stanlake, I think you need to back him in on field or not at all. I think a better play would be to try and loop a Canes bowler in game 1, then decide if you want Stanlake or otherwise.
The number of Stars you trade out will depend on who you want. You currently look like you could have 8-10 DGW players in round 2. Therefore you will only be fielding 1-3 SGW players. You may need to check you won’t be putting yourself in a position of having to leave a SGW “premium” on the bench, so don’t be scared to trade them out.
See @Tails very helpful projections above for a guide on how quickly they will rise. Maybe you can pass on 1-2 of them and skew towards DGR players.
Some very helpful/logical advice I received, I think originally from @Herbie66 and @THCLT, is to view a BBL season in blocks of games (usually determined by the timing of DGRs and byes). In the IPL I did 4-5 week blocks, this BBL round 1-3 seems a logical period to plan for initially.
If you have a side that doesn’t consider DGRs much at all, another side that is almost exclusively focused on DGR players (eg Stars, Hobart and Adelaide players) and then merge the two, trimming the weakest parts and retaining the strongest parts, you should end up in a good spot.
One thing I’d flag is that Adelaide have two DGRs back to back, so if in doubt I think including more Strikers makes sense over any other side.
If you do that you also have less need to trade between R2 and R3.
Under this framework you’d normally start planning for the next c. 4 week phase as the first one draws to a close. If you don’t have a strong need to trade additional players in for R3 (eg because you already have enough Strikers) you can actually start phase 2 a fraction earlier.
I hope this makes sense!
Some very helpful/logical advice I received, I think originally from @Herbie66 and @THCLT, is to view a BBL season in blocks of games (usually determined by the timing of DGRs and byes). In the IPL I did 4-5 week blocks, this BBL round 1-3 seems a logical period to plan for initially.
If you have a side that doesn’t consider DGRs much at all, another side that is almost exclusively focused on DGR players (eg Stars, Hobart and Adelaide players) and then merge the two, trimming the weakest parts and retaining the strongest parts, you should end up in a good spot.
One thing I’d flag is that Adelaide have two DGRs back to back, so if in doubt I think including more Strikers makes sense over any other side.
If you do that you also have less need to trade between R2 and R3.
Under this framework you’d normally start planning for the next c. 4 week phase as the first one draws to a close. If you don’t have a strong need to trade additional players in for R3 (eg because you already have enough Strikers) you can actually start phase 2 a fraction earlier.
I hope this makes sense!
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At this stage I am just looking at Carey for his Round 3 DGR , based on the dates he will miss the first game of Round 2.
Think that will give me 4-5 Strikers for Round 3 (not including Nielsen)
Round 6 the Renegades & Sixers are on DGR and the majority have high starting prices (need to get my head around what actual date they can first play).
If I have kept Rashid , Stoinis & Short by then that would mean 8 spots for Renegades/Sixers.
Carey could easily become Philippe anytime between Round 4 - 6.
Then depending on the England situation have time to assess Bairstow , Banton , Billings etc
I will more than likely start Gotch , McDermott & Nielsen (like Bat/WK) , looks like McDermott will need to pump out some big scores to rise significantly to get to a premium in one trade.
Once I have finalised my Round 1 - 3 plans , I will move into the next block.
Think that will give me 4-5 Strikers for Round 3 (not including Nielsen)
Round 6 the Renegades & Sixers are on DGR and the majority have high starting prices (need to get my head around what actual date they can first play).
If I have kept Rashid , Stoinis & Short by then that would mean 8 spots for Renegades/Sixers.
Carey could easily become Philippe anytime between Round 4 - 6.
Then depending on the England situation have time to assess Bairstow , Banton , Billings etc
I will more than likely start Gotch , McDermott & Nielsen (like Bat/WK) , looks like McDermott will need to pump out some big scores to rise significantly to get to a premium in one trade.
Once I have finalised my Round 1 - 3 plans , I will move into the next block.
This makes sense.
The idea of only having a certain number of spots for DGR players (after allocating a spot to Rashid et al) is interesting, and probably the reverse of the way I think about it. This approach is probably better for building a strong squad though, which looks important this year given fewer DGRs.
Two things I am somewhat focused on:
- To me Adelaide players largely dominate Hobart players given the extra DGR. So I can see myself going lighter on Hobart players (ex probably Short and a WK) and loading up on Strikers.
- If I do this, it’s quite possible I don’t have much trading to do ahead of R3. My plan is to use this advantage to play the BE game and get in some players who can make good cash one round earlier than would otherwise have been the case.
Then I use R4 and 5 to repeat the cash gen trades, rebalance towards Renegades and Stars, and maybe get any really strong SGR candidates in.
The idea of only having a certain number of spots for DGR players (after allocating a spot to Rashid et al) is interesting, and probably the reverse of the way I think about it. This approach is probably better for building a strong squad though, which looks important this year given fewer DGRs.
Two things I am somewhat focused on:
- To me Adelaide players largely dominate Hobart players given the extra DGR. So I can see myself going lighter on Hobart players (ex probably Short and a WK) and loading up on Strikers.
- If I do this, it’s quite possible I don’t have much trading to do ahead of R3. My plan is to use this advantage to play the BE game and get in some players who can make good cash one round earlier than would otherwise have been the case.
Then I use R4 and 5 to repeat the cash gen trades, rebalance towards Renegades and Stars, and maybe get any really strong SGR candidates in.
Sydney Sixers
Abbott - Test Squad
Bird - Australia A
Brathwaite
Curran - probably in South Africa
Dwarshuis
Starc - Test Squad
2 spinners out of Manenti/Pope/SOK until Lyon is available
might be harder than the Rubik's cube trying to figure their XI out eventually
Hughes , Phillippe , Vince , Henriques , Silk , DC
Abbott - Test Squad
Bird - Australia A
Brathwaite
Curran - probably in South Africa
Dwarshuis
Starc - Test Squad
2 spinners out of Manenti/Pope/SOK until Lyon is available
might be harder than the Rubik's cube trying to figure their XI out eventually
Hughes , Phillippe , Vince , Henriques , Silk , DC
Great post
I have been caught in the last focusing too much on DGR players and ended up with SGR premiums sitting on the bench.
Still need to work out the correct balance.
Maybe this season we can try looping premiums off the bench.
Hobart
Short is obvious
I am quite bullish on Faulkner , McDermott & Meredith.
Will need to await Lamichanne confirmation.
Strikers
IF Wade was available for Round 2 , I would seriously not pick Rashid Khan 😀
Am trying to start Wells
Will target Rashid Khan & Siddle.
Probably throw a blanket over Renshaw/Salt/Weatherald.
So no doubt Agar , Briggs , Short & Worrall will be the ones that go 100 +
Possibly looking too far ahead but I think cash generation could very well be a problem getting in Renegades/Sixers so hopefully they start slowly and lose significant $$$ (do we still want them)
If I start the likes of Bazley , Gotch , Nielsen , Turner , Wildermuth etc etc they certainly won't be making $$$ to trade out , similar to McDermott & Stanlake so yes it could well be a case of playing the BE game to generate cash.
The other thing is do we have to actually use our 3 trades each round ? I think I automatically think I have too , but with less DGR maybe you don't need to this season.
Once a few more players get added will need to sit down and get the calculator out.
I have been caught in the last focusing too much on DGR players and ended up with SGR premiums sitting on the bench.
Still need to work out the correct balance.
Maybe this season we can try looping premiums off the bench.
Hobart
Short is obvious
I am quite bullish on Faulkner , McDermott & Meredith.
Will need to await Lamichanne confirmation.
Strikers
IF Wade was available for Round 2 , I would seriously not pick Rashid Khan 😀
Am trying to start Wells
Will target Rashid Khan & Siddle.
Probably throw a blanket over Renshaw/Salt/Weatherald.
So no doubt Agar , Briggs , Short & Worrall will be the ones that go 100 +
Possibly looking too far ahead but I think cash generation could very well be a problem getting in Renegades/Sixers so hopefully they start slowly and lose significant $$$ (do we still want them)
If I start the likes of Bazley , Gotch , Nielsen , Turner , Wildermuth etc etc they certainly won't be making $$$ to trade out , similar to McDermott & Stanlake so yes it could well be a case of playing the BE game to generate cash.
The other thing is do we have to actually use our 3 trades each round ? I think I automatically think I have too , but with less DGR maybe you don't need to this season.
Once a few more players get added will need to sit down and get the calculator out.
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