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Oh, I've seen what you've done there... You replaced some of my current inclusions and tried to include the players I want.
The thing is, if I discluded some of the players I have right now -- (take Sams, for instance) -- I'd be even more agitated on missing out on those players. Really, I just wanted a list of pros and cons for those players that I want. Maybe you could persuade me to get the players you have.
The thing is, if I discluded some of the players I have right now -- (take Sams, for instance) -- I'd be even more agitated on missing out on those players. Really, I just wanted a list of pros and cons for those players that I want. Maybe you could persuade me to get the players you have.
I have no doubt that he is as capable as anyone of finishing the season at the pointy end of top scorers. It is his starting price that has me avoiding him.
The average player in our starting team will cost $125k. Assuming we start five $62.5k players on our bench, the average on field player will cost around $150k. Therefore any player we pay more than that $125-150k range for, we really need to justify their position in our team and feel comfortable that points will outweigh expense.
Sams does not have a DGR until Round 8, so plays 7 games over the first 7 rounds. In those rounds Strikers, Sixers, Hurricanes and Renegades will all play 8 games. Is there better value in any of those sides players where the extra game will close the points gap on Sams? You could also include Stars players as well due to their Round 1 double even though they only play the same amount of games as the Thunder.
I feel that many sides will have Sams by his DGW in Round 8 as we will have worked 21 trades by then. The good teams will have used those trades to build a lot of team value, and my take is those who don’t fork out nearly $200k for Sams at the beginning, and search for a little bit extra value, will have a stronger overall team by Round 8.
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Hmmm... Diabolical, you make it seem like picking players such as Lachie Neale in A.F.L.S.C. is not worth it. That is, if he costs too much.
However, in your defence, there's the additional element of D.G.W.s in B.B.L.S.C., making things a bit more complicated.
If you're bagging a player's value due to high expense – (such as Sams's) – then you need justification as to why he'd do WORSE than last year – as his average is well high enough to make the top 5 in his respective position; making him not a problem worthy of being traded out. Yes, he struggled batting last year, but that equated to his price – he makes up for it in other areas. See, Hales is $45,000 more expensive than Khawaja because he's precisely that much better. My point is: what additional factors have been introduced this year to make you say Khawaja will best his previous year? Basically, this asks: how does Khawaja represent better value?
As for his team's poor schedule, you're advising me to chase players inside the Hurricanes and the Stars. However, my team, (other than 3 Thunder-players and 2 Scorchers), only consists of those two teams. Are you saying you don't have more than 5 players outside Hurricanes or Stars? Seems like people chase D.G.W.s a tad over the top.
However, in your defence, there's the additional element of D.G.W.s in B.B.L.S.C., making things a bit more complicated.
If you're bagging a player's value due to high expense – (such as Sams's) – then you need justification as to why he'd do WORSE than last year – as his average is well high enough to make the top 5 in his respective position; making him not a problem worthy of being traded out. Yes, he struggled batting last year, but that equated to his price – he makes up for it in other areas. See, Hales is $45,000 more expensive than Khawaja because he's precisely that much better. My point is: what additional factors have been introduced this year to make you say Khawaja will best his previous year? Basically, this asks: how does Khawaja represent better value?
As for his team's poor schedule, you're advising me to chase players inside the Hurricanes and the Stars. However, my team, (other than 3 Thunder-players and 2 Scorchers), only consists of those two teams. Are you saying you don't have more than 5 players outside Hurricanes or Stars? Seems like people chase D.G.W.s a tad over the top.
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Hmmm... Diabolical, you make it seem like picking players such as Lachie Neale in A.F.L.S.C. is not worth it. That is, if he costs too much.
However, in your defence, there's the additional element of D.G.W.s in B.B.L.S.C., making things a bit more complicated.
If you're bagging a player's value due to high expense – (such as Sams's) – then you need justification as to why he'd do WORSE than last year – as his average is well high enough to make the top 5 in his respective position; making him not a problem worthy of being traded out. Yes, he struggled batting last year, but that equated to his price – he makes up for it in other areas.
As for his team's poor schedule, you're advising me to chase players inside the Hurricanes and the Stars. However, my team, (other than 3 Thunder-players and 2 Scorchers), only consists of those two teams. Are you saying you don't have more than 5 players outside Hurricanes or Stars? Seems like people chase D.G.W.s a tad over the top.
However, in your defence, there's the additional element of D.G.W.s in B.B.L.S.C., making things a bit more complicated.
If you're bagging a player's value due to high expense – (such as Sams's) – then you need justification as to why he'd do WORSE than last year – as his average is well high enough to make the top 5 in his respective position; making him not a problem worthy of being traded out. Yes, he struggled batting last year, but that equated to his price – he makes up for it in other areas.
As for his team's poor schedule, you're advising me to chase players inside the Hurricanes and the Stars. However, my team, (other than 3 Thunder-players and 2 Scorchers), only consists of those two teams. Are you saying you don't have more than 5 players outside Hurricanes or Stars? Seems like people chase D.G.W.s a tad over the top.
Very unlikely to back up his performance from last season, C Green returns along with the addition of B Cutting and A Milne which potentially could decrease his bowling opportunities at the death to pick up easy wickets.
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Hmmm... Diabolical, you make it seem like picking players such as Lachie Neale in A.F.L.S.C. is not worth it. That is, if he costs too much.
However, in your defence, there's the additional element of D.G.W.s in B.B.L.S.C., making things a bit more complicated.
If you're bagging a player's value due to high expense – (such as Sams's) – then you need justification as to why he'd do WORSE than last year – as his average is well high enough to make the top 5 in his respective position; making him not a problem worthy of being traded out. Yes, he struggled batting last year, but that equated to his price – he makes up for it in other areas.
As for his team's poor schedule, you're advising me to chase players inside the Hurricanes and the Stars. However, my team, (other than 3 Thunder-players and 2 Scorchers), only consists of those two teams. Are you saying you don't have more than 5 players outside Hurricanes or Stars? Seems like people chase D.G.W.s a tad over the top.
However, in your defence, there's the additional element of D.G.W.s in B.B.L.S.C., making things a bit more complicated.
If you're bagging a player's value due to high expense – (such as Sams's) – then you need justification as to why he'd do WORSE than last year – as his average is well high enough to make the top 5 in his respective position; making him not a problem worthy of being traded out. Yes, he struggled batting last year, but that equated to his price – he makes up for it in other areas.
As for his team's poor schedule, you're advising me to chase players inside the Hurricanes and the Stars. However, my team, (other than 3 Thunder-players and 2 Scorchers), only consists of those two teams. Are you saying you don't have more than 5 players outside Hurricanes or Stars? Seems like people chase D.G.W.s a tad over the top.
2. He could easily be worked out and with more internationals it could be harder to find a batting collapse to expose the tailenders.
3. Last year towards the backend he wasn't consistently bowling 4 overs with Doggett, Tremain and no Green as his competition. Will Cutting and Green affect how many overs he bowls?
That approach is very interesting.
I do the same $ 125k per player , $ 62.5 for each bench player.
But then I allow myself 5 x $ 187.5 k
players with the savings I made on the bench , so then my 6 remaining onfield players are still a $ 125 k average.
By doing it your way (just filled in with the highest priced players I have a spare $ 130k to spend).
Ignored DGR , availability etc etc
I guess now if you look at the value under $ 150k eg Behrendorff , Christian , Coulter-Nile , Khawaja , Lynn , Milne (?) , Tye etc you then have to weigh up starting these types.
Extra savings then look at more expensive DGR players to start with to provide VC/C options.
Then it comes back to do we start the SGR value premiums or chase the DGR players from the start.
Different approach to mine , I quite like it.
Possibly behind in Round 1 & 2 but back the "value" players to make up the difference.
Not sure then how to approach trading , maybe it's a case of not always using the 3 trades each round.
Wait for those value players to rise then sideways trade them.
Do we sometimes only trade because we think we have too.
Time to play again.
I do the same $ 125k per player , $ 62.5 for each bench player.
But then I allow myself 5 x $ 187.5 k
players with the savings I made on the bench , so then my 6 remaining onfield players are still a $ 125 k average.
By doing it your way (just filled in with the highest priced players I have a spare $ 130k to spend).
Ignored DGR , availability etc etc
I guess now if you look at the value under $ 150k eg Behrendorff , Christian , Coulter-Nile , Khawaja , Lynn , Milne (?) , Tye etc you then have to weigh up starting these types.
Extra savings then look at more expensive DGR players to start with to provide VC/C options.
Then it comes back to do we start the SGR value premiums or chase the DGR players from the start.
Different approach to mine , I quite like it.
Possibly behind in Round 1 & 2 but back the "value" players to make up the difference.
Not sure then how to approach trading , maybe it's a case of not always using the 3 trades each round.
Wait for those value players to rise then sideways trade them.
Do we sometimes only trade because we think we have too.
Time to play again.
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After first innings in Tasmanian Prem:
Nathan Ellis with a SC score of 97 with figures of 3-21(4). 13 dot balls (13), 1 wide (-1), Economy of 5.25 (15), 3 wickets (60+10). Some good form for him leading into the first BBL game.
James Faulkner with a SC score of 110 after scoring 73(36).
Tim David with a SC score of 102 after scoring 67(31).
Riley Meredith with a SC score of 33 with figures of 0-23(4). 11 dot balls (11), 3 wides (-3), Economy of 5.75 (15), 1 catch (10).
Ben McDermott with 10 SC points for a catch.
Nathan Ellis with a SC score of 97 with figures of 3-21(4). 13 dot balls (13), 1 wide (-1), Economy of 5.25 (15), 3 wickets (60+10). Some good form for him leading into the first BBL game.
James Faulkner with a SC score of 110 after scoring 73(36).
Tim David with a SC score of 102 after scoring 67(31).
Riley Meredith with a SC score of 33 with figures of 0-23(4). 11 dot balls (11), 3 wides (-3), Economy of 5.75 (15), 1 catch (10).
Ben McDermott with 10 SC points for a catch.
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possibly something like this to start and not trading until Round 4 (probably fall to far behind though)
Fletcher
Short , Stoinis , Lynn , Khawaja , Christian
RASHID KHAN , Coulter-Nile , Tye , Milne , Behrendorff
$ 56,700.00 in the Bank
possibly something like this to start and not trading until Round 4 (probably fall to far behind though)
Fletcher
Short , Stoinis , Lynn , Khawaja , Christian
RASHID KHAN , Coulter-Nile , Tye , Milne , Behrendorff
$ 56,700.00 in the Bank
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Hmmm... Diabolical, you make it seem like picking players such as Lachie Neale in A.F.L.S.C. is not worth it. That is, if he costs too much.
However, in your defence, there's the additional element of D.G.W.s in B.B.L.S.C., making things a bit more complicated.
If you're bagging a player's value due to high expense – (such as Sams's) – then you need justification as to why he'd do WORSE than last year – as his average is well high enough to make the top 5 in his respective position; making him not a problem worthy of being traded out. Yes, he struggled batting last year, but that equated to his price – he makes up for it in other areas. See, Hales is $45,000 more expensive than Khawaja because he's precisely that much better. My point is: what additional factors have been introduced this year to make you say Khawaja will best his previous year? Basically, this asks: how does Khawaja represent better value?
As for his team's poor schedule, you're advising me to chase players inside the Hurricanes and the Stars. However, my team, (other than 3 Thunder-players and 2 Scorchers), only consists of those two teams. Are you saying you don't have more than 5 players outside Hurricanes or Stars? Seems like people chase D.G.W.s a tad over the top.
However, in your defence, there's the additional element of D.G.W.s in B.B.L.S.C., making things a bit more complicated.
If you're bagging a player's value due to high expense – (such as Sams's) – then you need justification as to why he'd do WORSE than last year – as his average is well high enough to make the top 5 in his respective position; making him not a problem worthy of being traded out. Yes, he struggled batting last year, but that equated to his price – he makes up for it in other areas. See, Hales is $45,000 more expensive than Khawaja because he's precisely that much better. My point is: what additional factors have been introduced this year to make you say Khawaja will best his previous year? Basically, this asks: how does Khawaja represent better value?
As for his team's poor schedule, you're advising me to chase players inside the Hurricanes and the Stars. However, my team, (other than 3 Thunder-players and 2 Scorchers), only consists of those two teams. Are you saying you don't have more than 5 players outside Hurricanes or Stars? Seems like people chase D.G.W.s a tad over the top.
I don’t see BBL SC anything like AFL SC. The byes, DGRs, three trades per round meaning you could potentially turn your entire starting XI around in 4 rounds, and volatile scoring make it a different beast.
For example Sams best game last year was 144 points where his worst was 5 points - you don’t get that variance in AFL without injury. Even with his great year, his best 6 games (out of 17) he averaged an impressive 112 points, but his worst 6 games he averaged just 26.
It is for this reason, unlike AFL, that I am prepared to swap premiums out to ride the schedule or take advantage of high/low breakevens. I am prepared to risk Sams price dropping before I get him.
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Couple of players leaving too, which shouldn't really change Hales's role. You could make the case for basically any player: Brisbane have added Wildermuth and Cooper, which could potentially decrease Bryant's batting order. I mean, sure, it could, but these factors are rather minute. Think about it, you could basically use this sort of reasoning for any player. Sams is a massive talent. Probably their best player. I don't think anyone pushes him out of favour.
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