Position 2021: Ruck Discussion
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Any Collingwood supporters able to confirm what the expected ruck set up will be? Will it be Grundy one out with Cox for a few minutes.
Keen to understand if using Cameron last year to take a larger chunk of the ruck work will happen again. Everyone seems to be locking Grundy in as a certain improver this year but thought it might be worse digging into it a little further. At over 50% ownership maybe it is worth taking him on
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Keen to understand if using Cameron last year to take a larger chunk of the ruck work will happen again. Everyone seems to be locking Grundy in as a certain improver this year but thought it might be worse digging into it a little further. At over 50% ownership maybe it is worth taking him on
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I am no chance of rucking now , too short for the modern game 😀
I don't follow training reports as much as most but bits and pieces I read sounds like it will be Cameron/Cox fighting for one spot , with Checkers & Young Ned the 2 mobile marking options , although I don't think the latter played yesterday.
Think Cox is better for our forward structure personally but Cameron actually looks better in the ruck.
Lynch's name has popped up as well.
I am still of the belief that Grundy was playing injured last year although nothing has come out and obviously I have no medical information to back it up.
Think our clearances will suffer without BBQ (so that would affect Grundy's HTA scores) plus I think the opposition put a lot more time into Grundy's ruck work.
I don't think he is a clear cut R2 as most assume either , think ROB is fast closing the gap.
I don't follow training reports as much as most but bits and pieces I read sounds like it will be Cameron/Cox fighting for one spot , with Checkers & Young Ned the 2 mobile marking options , although I don't think the latter played yesterday.
Think Cox is better for our forward structure personally but Cameron actually looks better in the ruck.
Lynch's name has popped up as well.
I am still of the belief that Grundy was playing injured last year although nothing has come out and obviously I have no medical information to back it up.
Think our clearances will suffer without BBQ (so that would affect Grundy's HTA scores) plus I think the opposition put a lot more time into Grundy's ruck work.
I don't think he is a clear cut R2 as most assume either , think ROB is fast closing the gap.
If they're both playing rd1 and we are as hungry for rookies as it looks like we'll be, it could be a huge advantage to go down that path and I would definitely be doing it. Easy choice for me to leave gawn out. Won't be fun without him early but you have to play the cards you are dealt.
If you think gawn outscores Grundy by 10+ then you probably have to leave Grundy out. I'm predicting not much difference between them this year.
If you think gawn outscores Grundy by 10+ then you probably have to leave Grundy out. I'm predicting not much difference between them this year.
My early thoughts are that I’m going to push for Gawn.
Flynn has Grawndy in R3-4. Could easily be 50s those rounds so the advantage from having a “higher scoring rookie” could be largely diminished. A lot of forward rookies on offer with seemingly good JS too. Worst case I’d rely on the HJones and Rowe types on field. Could payup for Chandler or Cahill types too
Flynn has Grawndy in R3-4. Could easily be 50s those rounds so the advantage from having a “higher scoring rookie” could be largely diminished. A lot of forward rookies on offer with seemingly good JS too. Worst case I’d rely on the HJones and Rowe types on field. Could payup for Chandler or Cahill types too
I think the reason Meek is being raised is that Darcy doesn't seem to offer them all that much beyond making a contest in the ruck, and the coach has come out and said Meek's 2nd and 3rd efforts were good in the praccy.
Agree that it's not clear cut at all, but if I was JL and had Darcy coming back from injury anyway, I'd be pretty keen to see what the help can do, given Darcy is well... average and Meek could be better.
Agree that it's not clear cut at all, but if I was JL and had Darcy coming back from injury anyway, I'd be pretty keen to see what the help can do, given Darcy is well... average and Meek could be better.
Grundy for mine but I'm a big believer in Gawn and the Grundy pick hasn't really felt that great the whole time even though I do love him. Still odd to say it given I still think Gawn is slightly overpriced (though not by as much as most) and Grundy is probably fairly priced if not underpriced but it just feels to me like Gawn is going to be 125+ and Grundy is the one who could drop back to the 110 range if things don't go to plan.
He's neck and neck for round one, which given his abhorrent fitness levels is a pretty bad sign. This is a guy who took 14 rounds to play himself into something resembling football shape last year, I can't see him being the kind of guy who is going to be fit after a knee injury takes out 5+ weeks of his preseason. He was a guy who already needed a perfect preseason this year.
Reckon Meek is in with a good shot at playing round 1 and if he makes an effort can hold the spot. Darcy has been a very mediocre player who is too unfit to make a contest and has desperately needed a big kick up the backside to get in shape, wouldn't surprise me if Meek is at least used as that by making him play reserves. I love Darcy as a prospect if he'd get in shape but we're 4 years in now and he's gotten worse each season in that regard.
Still, Meek's JS would be poor at best given they've always got the Lobb option, Treacy has impressed and Darcy is going to be there about. Kind of guy though if he looks like getting a month then you could justify the risk on him as a rookie. Worst case you get your donut in a couple of weeks anyway as the R/F link has no value until Marshall is right anyway. 20k extra for the donut for a chance that it generates cash would be worth it for me.
He's neck and neck for round one, which given his abhorrent fitness levels is a pretty bad sign. This is a guy who took 14 rounds to play himself into something resembling football shape last year, I can't see him being the kind of guy who is going to be fit after a knee injury takes out 5+ weeks of his preseason. He was a guy who already needed a perfect preseason this year.
Reckon Meek is in with a good shot at playing round 1 and if he makes an effort can hold the spot. Darcy has been a very mediocre player who is too unfit to make a contest and has desperately needed a big kick up the backside to get in shape, wouldn't surprise me if Meek is at least used as that by making him play reserves. I love Darcy as a prospect if he'd get in shape but we're 4 years in now and he's gotten worse each season in that regard.
Still, Meek's JS would be poor at best given they've always got the Lobb option, Treacy has impressed and Darcy is going to be there about. Kind of guy though if he looks like getting a month then you could justify the risk on him as a rookie. Worst case you get your donut in a couple of weeks anyway as the R/F link has no value until Marshall is right anyway. 20k extra for the donut for a chance that it generates cash would be worth it for me.
