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Professor · 24 Feb 2021

7. How many Bulldogs midfielders will you start?
@azzajewell: None. There’s too much uncertainty with the Bulldogs and how their team will function with so many premium midfielders. Not to mention the Bevo factor which has caused SuperCoach coaches plenty of headaches over the past season.

@honeyballafl: I understand the fear that with the addition of Adam Treloar and retention of Josh Dunkley that all their mid guns will take points off each other. But whether that’ll turn into reality is really tough to say so pre-season form will be indicative. In saying all that, I like Jack Macrae ($650k) for his reliability and durability.

@Adrian9Johnson6: None, probably. I succumbed to a double-Dog midfield to start my 2020 season (Bontempelli and Dunkley), but with the inclusion of Adam Treloar, I believe the best bet is to wait and see.

Can the Bont still fly high in KFC SuperCoach after Adam Treloar’s arrival?
@bolchdylan: I’ve got Dunkley at the moment and aside from him the only other one under consideration is Jack Macrae. Luke Beveridge spins the magnets way too much.

@damosc: None. I do like the idea of Jack Macrae, he seems to score well no matter where he plays. I don’t think I’ll be starting him though, he should be available cheaper at some point.

@hunterpunter_1: None at this stage. Think they’ll take points off each other.

@lekdogSC: None, and the only one I would consider is Adam Treloar because he’s the only one who can’t play outside of the guts.

@JordsSupercoach: In my midfield, none at the moment. Dunkley has shown a decent floor playing forward, and a huge ceiling playing midfield, so he’s locked at F1.

@NaCheers: Ever since I started playing SuperCoach I have started Macrae. I feel a little emotional typing this but this might be my first year without starting him or any Dog midfielders.

@damoj88: None! The addition of Treloar just adds to that uncertainty with regards to Dogs midfielders.

@Empr_X: Just Jack Macrae. Has been the second-best midfielder in the competition behind Lachie Neale for the last two years and the addition of Treloar doesn’t faze me one bit.

@the_SC_bull: Currently I haven’t got any of them. I’m happy to sit on the sidelines and watch to see how Bevo lines them up over the first couple of rounds before I bring any in.

Studz · 24 Feb 2021

@Professor ...not sure what to make of this new man on the mark rule...will reserve judgement until I see it in action and how it’s adjudicated....It could work well but if it simply leads to more confusion and more 50m penalty’s....that would be unfortunate

If you can no longer move sideways....then I can see less players will stand the mark, especially in the middle.

I suppose this is the aim of the rule...encourage players to maintain the ability to move freely by not standing the mark & thereby opening up the game more....in theory anyway

Professor · 24 Feb 2021

AFL 2021: Lance Franklin’s natural kicking arc could cause the Sydney Swans star trouble as AFL umpires told to tighten interpretation
The AFL world melted down over footage of a new rule enforced in Essendon’s intra-club match. And there’s a secret twist that’s bad news for Buddy. WATCH

Sam Landsberger

@samlandsberger

2 min read
February 24, 2021 - 5:47PM
News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

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New rule will be a problem!
AFL: Essendon have put new rules to the test in a training game, and it seems they will wreak havoc on the game.

The “Buddy Franklin kicking arc” is dead.
As the football world goes into meltdown over footage of a 50m paid in an Essendon intra-club match, the Herald Sun can reveal there is a secret twist to the controversial new rule governing players standing on the mark.
AFL umpires have been instructed to call “play on” whenever a player deviates off his line after taking a mark or being awarded a free kick.

The kicker now has to be in a direct line with the attacking goals, no matter where on the ground the mark or free kick is paid.
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This could spell problems for Franklin who has an exaggerated arc to the left when he has kicking at goal.
This stricter interpretation has been coached to umpires over the pre-season, but it has not yet been communicated by the AFL
Given that the player on the mark has effectively been “spared” — made inactive because he now has to remain stationary or give away 50m — the expectation is that the kicker must execute along the correct line.
Without that rule in place, the player in possession could simply evade the man on the mark by running around him.

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The AFL’s secret tightening of the ‘play on’ rule could impact Sydney superstar Lance Franklin’s natural goalkicking arc.
Signalling “play on” will bring the man on the mark back into action.
According to umpires, no longer will Franklin be allowed to wheel on to his left foot — in what has become one of football’s most symbolic sights — without “play on” being called.
The Herald Sun has contacted Sydney Swans for feedback.
Similarly, any AFL player who strays from that straight line in search of extra distance will also be called to play on.
Multiple umpiring sources have confirmed that if any player wanders off their direct line of kick – either through a natural arc or to get an advantage – play on will be called, so long as it is obvious to the umpire that has occurred.
Umpires are privately being told to be vigilant. The new rule has not gone down well with some, who fear they are on a hiding to nothing this season. They have voiced their feedback to AFL House.
The league bent its own rules to protect Franklin’s arc 10 years ago.
In 2011 umpires were told that players “who have a natural arc in their kicking action” would be allowed leeway before being called to play on.

The umpires have been given new edicts for 2021. Picture: Michael Klein
But AFL umpires’ coach Hayden Kennedy reiterated at a recent training session that the rule had been tightened by lawmakers, and they must now call play-on as soon as players go off their direct line.
The whistleblowers immediately raised Franklin as an example, and were told that he, too, has to kick over the player on the mark.
They are sceptical because it is yet another grey part of the game to police.
Any time a player backs off, and it is noticeable to the umpire that he has backed off more north-south, it will be called “play on”.
The player must be on the most direct line as possible approaching the kick as well.
AFL umpires say this new interpretation hasn’t been put to the test yet. They are awaiting an example at the upcoming trial games.
The new man on the mark rule was almost a non-event at the Western Bulldogs-Hawthorn match.
Onlookers said that Marcus Bontempelli gave away a 50m penalty late in the game, but simply forgot about the new rule and immediately put up his hand to apologise.

Studz · 24 Feb 2021

New rule sounds like its gonna be a debacle. At least trial it thouroughly before introducing. Re: low scoring. How many goals are scored on average in the last 4 mins of a 20min quarter....you know, when players begin to get tired....would be an interesting stat to know. I wonder, were attempts on goal down in relative terms compared to 2019 ?

Overall it sounds like a massive knee-jerk reaction and constant interferance by the AFL and the media circus that comes with it only serves to boost the AFL's own ego and steal the limelight from the players. Time for a mangement change. Had enough of this mob.

Studz · 24 Feb 2021

The other reason for the lower scoring is due to the previous new rules regarding kick ins making it easier to clear your defensive 50. But how many goals would have been scored from locking the footy in the fwd 50 in the past and players pouncing on errant kick outs and converting.

This is the perfect example of the AFL making rule changes to correct issues caused by their previous rule changes....can't wait for the next set of rule changes to correct the problems caused by these new rules....

In theory it sounds good to create rules that lead to high scoring fast open footy but will they make EVERY game like this...of course not and they never will. Because some teams will just play defensively(Lyons, Horse teams for example).

Watch from 3:19min on how the new rule should work and how it could backfire..

dlanod · 25 Feb 2021

Studz said:

Underrated factor.

When we were ****, we'd leak so many goals by a predictable post-behind set-up of chipping it to a pocket and then long to a contest around the 50m arc, which would lead to a two or three on one situation and the ball coming back in.

Now even if you're crap you're halfway out of the field, turn it over at midfield instead and it's harder to score from there.

Presto · 25 Feb 2021

KFC SuperCoach 2021: Recruiting expert Gary Buckenara rates the top rookie picks

Recruiting guru Gary Buckenara has been watching the next generation of AFL talent for years. Here’s his take on the rookies to pick — and pass — in KFC SuperCoach.

Gary Buckenara

February 25, 2021 - 11:00AM

News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom

Teenagers entering the AFL system have never had it tougher.

A COVID-interrupted 2020 denied many the chance to press their draft claims, while others already in the system were thrown to the wolves last year in a footy frenzy that put new demands on all players.

That creates extra challenges when looking for bottom-priced players in KFC SuperCoach this year. But if you dig hard enough there is lots of rookie gold to be found.

Recruiting guru Gary Buckenara has been watching the next generation of AFL talent closely for years. Here are the players on his watch list for 2021, plus a few mature-agers who could get a chance at a bargain price.

DEFENDERS

WILL GOULD (Syd) $123,000 DEF

We expected Gould to be one of the cash cows of the year last year but he didn’t play a game and that means he’s very cheap again. His kicking is his weapon and I think he’s a player the Swans will look to get the ball into his hands at every opportunity across half-back because of that kicking ability. He’s a lock – now he just needs to feature in the practice matches.

JACOB WEHR (GWS) $117,300 DEF

The mature-age running defender should be ready to step straight into AFL level after playing against senior bodies in the SANFL. With Heath Shaw and Zac Williams gone, there’s a spot across half-back he can make his own. Pencil him in for now, then lock him in if he’s named for Round 1. Watch this space.

FISCHER McASEY (Adel) $199,300 DEF/FWD

McAsey got a taste of it last year, and with the Crows regenerating their list you can expect him to probably play a key defensive role. He’s a good intercept mark, kicks the ball pretty well and is likely to get a lot more games this year than he did last year because they need to get games into him. Watch his form in Adelaide’s practice matches to see his scoring potential but by all reports he’s had a good pre-season and I think he’s a good option – although he’s a little expensive.

DENVER GRAINGER-BARRAS (Haw) $184,800 DEF

I like this kid. Given Hawthorn has lost Ben Stratton and James Frawley and James Sicily will miss most, if not all season with a torn ACL, Grainger-Barras could get plenty of opportunities. He needs to put on some muscle but he’s competitive and I like the way he goes about his footy. Hawthorn needs to fast-track some of these younger players and Grainger-Barras should be at the top of the list. He could fill Sicily’s role as an intercept marker because he reads the ball in flight very well. Look out for his practice match scores and his name in Round 1.

LACHIE JONES (PA) $139,800 DEF

By all reports Jones has been impressive in the pre-season but it’s a tough Port Adelaide team to break into. He’s a good kick and makes good decisions but will he play consistently? Keep him in mind but if he doesn’t get a gig in Round 1 then look elsewhere as job security is an issue.

ISIAH WINDER (WCE) $117,300 DEF/MID

Winder is a guy who can play just about anywhere – as a smallish forward or a high half-forward, go into the midfield or even across half-back because he’s super quick and he’s very athletic. It might be hard for him to break into that West Coast team but he’s got a lot of talent and if the Eagles look to play Liam Ryan further up the ground, Winder could be one who gets an opportunity. Winder is a bit like Ryan because he’s quick, can jump, is quite tall, kicks the ball well and has an all-round athletic ability. There’s a bit of magic about him. Keep him in mind, he could be a mid-season downgrade option.

LIAM STOCKER (Carl) $186,500 DEF

Stocker has been around for a few years now and hasn’t quite grabbed his chance yet but Carlton need to find out if he can play at the level. He’s got talent but he needs to believe he belongs. I like him as an inside midfielder but he can also play down back, so there’s a couple of potential roles there. If the penny drops, then I think he can be a solid scorer because he finds the footy and uses it well. He could burst onto the scene.

BAILEY LAURIE (Melb) $117,300 DEF/MID

Over the last few years the Demons have played their early draftees from the get-go and Laurie could be the one who gets opportunities this year. He’s a utility in my view because he can play anywhere and utilities are always players I say to keep in mind in SuperCoach. Melbourne is in an interesting phase – I think many spots are up for grabs. Look for him in the practice matches.

MATTHEW LING (Syd) $163,000 DEF

The Swans speedster has been on my radar for three years in a row now and I think 2021 is his year. He got some games last year but John Longmire needs to play him consistently to find out if he can play at the level. He didn’t look out of place and is a guy who brings exceptional speed across half-back, as an outside midfielder or as a high half-forward, he’s exactly the type of player Sydney is crying out for. If the penny drops, he can cement his spot and become a solid scoring player.

TOM HIGHMORE (STK) $117,300 DEF

The Saints have a couple of injuries down back with Jarryn Geary and Ben Paton, while Dylan Roberton is taking time away from the game for his health, so Highmore could get a look in early. He’s a mature-age pick-up and like Callum Wilkie before him, could prove a very valuable recruit not only for the Saints but for SuperCoaches.

PATRICK AMBROSE (ESS) $217,800 DEF

Ambrose is returning from a lisfranc injury that derailed his season last year but he’s one to keep in the back of your mind. Cheapies in defence were a real problem last year and with limited options at this stage again, if he can get himself fit we know he’ll play games and at least be a scoring player for your bench. Could also return to the forward line in 2021.

TYSON GOLDSACK (PA) $182,000 DEF

Goldsack is one to watch. The Power have brought him out of retirement for a reason and he’s one of those versatile players who can just about play anywhere, and that’s very handy in SuperCoach. With the retirement of Justin Westhoff, Goldsack is the perfect replacement because he can play back, forward and even on the wing. Don’t overlook him, especially if he’s picked early. He’s always averaged in the 60s and at $182,000, they’re handy points.

Presto · 25 Feb 2021

MIDFIELDERS

PADDY DOW (CARL) $202,400 MID/FWD

It’s about time Paddy Dow starts to perform and 2021 is the year. He’s got talent and with a stronger midfield around him now, the pressure will be off him somewhat so he can play his more natural game as a ball hunter and distributor. At $202,400 he’s still cheap and worth a gamble if he plays in Round 1. High risk but potentially a high-reward selection.

NAKIA COCKATOO (BL) $123,900 MID/FWD

The Lions say Cockatoo is flying and is on track to play in Round 1 and if that’s the case then lock him into your team and throw away the key. He’s an explosive player, has dual-position status and we know he finds the footy both inside and outside and kicks goals. He’s the complete package as a KFC SuperCoach pick. Lock him in.

ELY SMITH (BL) $123,900 MID/FWD

Smith has been on my radar for the last couple of years. He’s athletically very good, he’s a lovely kick and I think he’ll get some looks this year because the Lions need to expose him at the level. The way he plays, he’ll definitely find the footy and if he gets regular games, then I think he’ll be a great cash and point earner.

FINN MAGINNESS (HAW) $195,600 MID

Maginness got a taste of senior footy towards the end of last season and I’d love to see Clarko play him in Isaac Smith’s wing role. He’s got a big engine, is a reasonable kick and will just run all day. I’d be very surprised if he doesn’t play Round 1. At $195,600 he’s not as cheap as other rookies — see how he goes in the practice matches.

LOCHIE O’BRIEN (CARL) $180,500 MID

O’Brien is another one who’s promised a lot as an early draft pick but is yet to deliver. He needs to stand up now and grab his opportunity and I think he can. He’s a player the Blues need to put time into – give him games consistently in a team that is going to challenge. He could very well take advantage of having better players around him. Don’t overlook him if he gets a gig in Round 1 – the Blues have talked up his pre-season and he’s one you should be seriously looking at.

FINLAY MACRAE (COLL) $126,300 MID/FWD

There are spots available at Collingwood after the departures of Adam Treloar, Jaidyn Stephenson and Tom Phillips and I think Macrae will get games. He’s like his brother Jack – he finds the footy and uses it well and we know how good a SuperCoach player Jack Macrae is. Pencil him into your team for now then lock him in if he’s picked in Round 1.

ELIJAH HOLLANDS (GC) $180,300 MID/FWD

Hollands is still on the comeback trail from a torn ACL so don’t start with him. Keep him in the back of your mind as a mid-season downgrade option – he says he’ll be ready around April/May, but I think July is more likely.

DEVEN ROBERTSON (BL) $176,800 MID

Didn’t get much of an opportunity last year in a very strong Brisbane team but I think Chris Fagan will want to give him opportunities this year. At $176,800 it’s a high price but he’s a good accumulator of the footy, uses it well and can play midfield or half-back. He’s good enough to cement his spot. Have him on your watch list.

MARK HUTCHINGS (WCE) $157,600 MID/FWD

In his first year back in 2013 Hutchings averaged 89.9 SuperCoach points then averaged just over 70 points per game from 2014-16. His average has dropped since then — it was just 29.3 from three games last year — but if he’s fit he should get a regular game for the Eagles and even though he’s a tagger, he does find the footy himself. Could be a handy bench player – watch where he plays in the pre-season matches.

WILL PHILLIPS (NM) $198,300 MID

North Melbourne will play their kids this year so I think Phillips will get plenty of opportunities to show why he was such a high draft pick. He’s one of the more expensive youngsters at $198,300 so watch closely where he plays in the practice matches to gauge his scoring potential. He’s a quality player who I believe can score well because he uses the ball very well and makes good decisions.

LUKE VALENTE (FREM) $123,900 MID

Valente has been around for a few years and Justin Longmuir recently talked up his pre-season, so 2021 could be the year he finally gets his chance. Pencil him in on your bench because he’s been in the system for a few years and I think when he does get his chance he’ll be a good point-scorer and be a nice cash generator. He’s got a solid body and he’s just a real footballer.

TOM POWELL (NM) $153,300 MID

Powell is a Lachie Neale clone and while his kicking does need to improve a little bit, he finds a lot of the ball. North Melbourne need to play the kids and I think Powell will get opportunities and I think he’ll be a nice pick. Make sure he’s picked in Round 1 before locking him in, but I like him and he’s in my team at the moment.

ARCHIE PERKINS (ESS) $171,300 MID/FWD

Essendon has talked him up big time and he’s a talented player, there’s no doubt about it. The Bombers are in a regeneration phase and I think they’ll look to inject speed into the side and Perkins definite brings that. It’s a big ask to come in and play straight away but watch him closely if he’s picked for the practice matches and then make a call. I think he can be a good scorer because nothing phases him and he should slot into AFL level.

BRAEDEN CAMPBELL (SYD) $189,300 MID/FWD

Historically the Swans have played their highly-rated Academy players (think Isaac Heeney and Callum Mills) from Round 1 and I expect Campbell will be the same. There’s big wraps on him – he has that outside pace the Swans need, he’s a good user of the footy and while he’s on the more expensive side for a youngster, he’s a lock for me.

CONNOR DOWNIE (HAW) $117,300 MID

Downie is the type of player Hawthorn needs to play. I’d love to see Finn Maginness on one wing and Connor Downie on the other. He’ll win plenty of the footy and he’s a good runner so watch him very closely if he gets a go in the practice matches. I like him a lot and think he can be a reliable scorer.

JACKSON MEAD (PA) $123,900 MID

Mead is a Ben Cunnington type and while it will be a hard midfield to break into, I think the Power will be keen to get him in at some stage. He always looks composed and like he belongs and I expect him to do the same at AFL level. Watch him closely if he gets a run in the practice matches.

Presto · 25 Feb 2021

FORWARDS

JARMAN IMPEY (HAW) $212,800 FWD

Impey will play in a number of roles and you just can’t pass up a guy who is experienced, a lock in the best 22 and available for just $212,800. Lock him in. No-brainer.

JAMARRA UGLE-HAGAN (WB) $207,300 FWD

I’d be stunned if the Dogs don’t play Ugle-Hagan in Round 1 providing he’s fit, but is he a lock in SuperCoach? I’m not convinced. His scoring could be inconsistent, especially if he plays in a forward role, so watch him closely in the practice matches to see where he’s being used. He’s a huge talent obviously but at $207,300 I’ve got some hesitation.

LIAM HENRY (FREM) $184,500 FWD

Henry is a really exciting talent who should get more opportunities in his second year at Fremantle after showing good signs last year. He can be a Liam Ryan-type forward and go into the midfield, but I think his scoring will be inconsistent. At $184,500 I think there are better options and at a cheaper price but he’s one to watch.

COREY DURDIN (CARL) $117,300 FWD/MID

A mature-age small forward out of the SANFL, I think there’s a role for Durdin in the Carlton team and with dual-position status as a MID/FWD, he’s currently in my team. He should get opportunities in the practice matches and if he nails them, then I think he’ll play Round 1. Pencil him in.

NED McHENRY (ADEL) $212,900 FWD/MID

Most expected McHenry to have a breakout season last year and be a really solid SuperCoach cheapie, but that didn’t quite pan out. He should get more opportunities this year and hopefully he can grab them but I’ve got reservations about picking him in SuperCoach, especially at $212,900.

Keep an eye on Bulldog Cody Weightman. Picture: Michael Klein

CODY WEIGHTMAN (WB) $173,700 FWD

Weightman is flying under the radar a bit but I think he’ll be a best 22 player this year. The Dogs need a dynamic small forward and after getting a taste of senior footy last year, he can take a big step this year with a full pre-season under his belt. He can also play in the midfield because he finds the footy, uses it well and makes smart decisions. The Dogs need a player like him in their structure.

JAMES ROWE (ADEL) $117,300 FWD

The Crows say Rowe is ready to play from Round 1 and I’m not surprised because he’s a real professional and hungry to show what he can do after being overlooked in three drafts. He’s played at a good standard in the SANFL and is a very good kick, he kicks goals and rarely wastes on opportunity. He won’t be overawed and could be a good scorer.

ISAAC CHUGG (COLL) $102,400 FWD/DEF

Chugg is a bolter who could play early on after impressing in the pre-season. He’s a rookie but by all reports he’s been a standout on the training track with his ball use, and given Collingwood struggled to move the ball efficiently last year, he could get an early opportunity. At $102,400 you can’t go past him if he’s picked in Round 1 but watch him closely in the practice matches first.

NIK COX (ESS) $175,800 FWD/DEF

Cox turned heads by winning Essendon’s 2km time-trial, but we know big guys are inconsistent in SuperCoach so there are better options out there and for a cheaper price.

WILL KELLY (COLL) $135,400 FWD

The Pies really like Kelly and there is the expectation he’ll be a key feature of the forward line in 2021. He’s got a really bright future but his SuperCoach scoring will be inconsistent. Pass.

PHOENIX SPICER (NM) $117,300 MID/FWD

Spicer has been really exciting over the pre-season and the Kangaroos are desperate for a dynamic small forward, so I think he’ll get early opportunities. He’s small but very quick and agile and could become a bit of a cult hero because he’s electric. Scoring will likely be inconsistent though.

JACK PETRUCCELLE (WCE) $217,100 FWD

Petruccelle will cost you a bit more but I think he’s got scoring potential because he’s such an electric player and when fit, he’s a guy Adam Simpson will want in his team. He’s in his fourth year now and could be ready to explode. Has had a hamstring hiccup so keep an eye on that.

RUCKS

MATTHEW FLYNN (GWS) $123,900 RUC

Flynn has rocketed into SuperCoach calculations after the long-term injury to Braydon Preuss and after six years on the GWS list without playing a game, his time has come. He’s likely to be GWS’s No.1 ruckman, barring any injury, and that means he’s a perfect bench option – or a ruck starter if you like to live more dangerously. He’s actually very athletic, runs well and will get a bit of the footy around the ground so should be a decent scorer because he reads the play really well and is quite skilful. Lock him in.

RILEY THILTHORPE (ADEL) $202,800 RUC/FWD

Thilthorpe should get opportunities early and after playing SANFL last year he’s had experience playing against bigger bodies, which will hold him in good stead. His RUC/FWD dual position status is handy but his price is a bit of a turn-off. Watch his scoring potential in the practice matches.

CALLUM COLEMAN-JONES (Rich) $161,200 RUC/FWD

Richmond has earmarked him as a player of the future and with Ivan Soldo out with an ACL, 2021 could be the year we finally get to see him. He has four games to serve on his ban for breaking COVID protocols last year but I don’t think it will be long before we see him after that. The suspension makes it tough to start with him, so could be a downgrade option at some stage if you’re someone with a RUC/FWD swing.

JOSH TREACY (FREM) $102,400 RUC

Some might have earmarked Treacy as the ruck bench captaincy loophole player, but after booting three goals in a recent intra-club game, the Dockers big man could get senior opportunities. He’s been categorised as a ruckman in SuperCoach but he’s actually a key forward and we know Fremantle’s forward line isn’t locked in. Watch this space, especially given Matt Taberner has been battling a quad injury.

Baglimit · 25 Feb 2021

love this post. Are we underestimating the defender getting stuck on the mark and being able to drop back and impact the forward entry?
this could affect defender and also ruck scoring this season maybe? Interesting.

Baglimit · 25 Feb 2021

Studz said:

The other reason for the lower scoring is due to the previous new rules regarding kick ins making it easier to clear your defensive 50. But how many goals would have been scored from locking the footy in the fwd 50 in the past and players pouncing on errant kick outs and converting.

This is the perfect example of the AFL making rule changes to correct issues caused by their previous rule changes....can't wait for the next set of rule changes to correct the problems caused by these new rules....

In theory it sounds good to create rules that lead to high scoring fast open footy but will they make EVERY game like this...of course not and they never will. Because some teams will just play defensively(Lyons, Horse teams for example).

Watch from 3:19min on how the new rule should work and how it could backfire..

Reply was to this post, havent quite got the hang if it yet lol

Studz · 25 Feb 2021

Baglimit said:

Haha...the perils of noobness...welcome aboard!😀

randomcliche · 25 Feb 2021

Baglimit said:

No wuz. You click quote, then go previous post and edit. Then click insert quotes. Cheers

No one else here makes mistakes and needs to edit though

(Petty suree moist off myy postss git dis dun)

Ratzondix · 2 Mar 2021

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Shannon · 2 Mar 2021

Ratzondix said:

AFL 2021: The draftees set to debut in Round 1 for your KFC SuperCoach team
Despite a limited pre-season, several of last year’s draftees are firming to debut in the opening round of 2021. Find out who’s in the selection frame at your club.

Jon Ralph

Matt Rowell’s assured first month of AFL football last year provided outlandish expectations for the kids that followed in his footsteps.
Yet with only a single warm-up game remaining before Round 1, three of this year’s top four selections would seem unlikely to make their debut in the first week of the season.

Jamarra Ugle-Ugle Hagan would need a rash of injuries to debut, Will Phillips couldn’t crack a scratch-match game last week and Logan McDonald was quiet in conditions far from ideal for a key position tall.

Yet across the competition a host of young kids and mature-aged recruits are pushing hard.

Here are their chances of making a Round 1 or early debut in 2021.

Adelaide
Lock in Riley Thilthorpe for an early debut, even if it doesn’t come in Round 1.

Now we have to wait to see if he plays in the AFL clash against Port Adelaide on Sunday to take his chance.

Job security: Once he’s in, he’s surely staying in given Adelaide knows it needs to get him to 50 games as quick as possible as the Taylor Walker replacement.

Brisbane
The Lions took Blake Coleman at pick 24 but their maturity and star-studded list means it’s damned hard to get into the Round 1 side. Ely Smith, the No. 21 pick in the 2018 national draft, played well on the weekend while the Lions believe Jack Payne has gone to another level after his four contested marks in the preliminary final, while Zac Bailey is ready for a midfield role after a massive summer.

Job security: Go elsewhere if you are looking for KFC SuperCoach rookies.

Carlton
The Blues took SANFL small forward Corey Durdin at pick 37 and he impressed in early scrimmages but wasn’t featured in the clash against Essendon. Brodie Kemp, the No. 1 selection from the 2019 national draft, is out with a syndesmosis injury.

Job security: Look for Durdin to emerge given he was perfectly drafted for needs, but he’s not ready yet.

Collingwood
Ollie Henry slipped to No. 17 in the national draft but might slip right into a Round 1 berth if he can continue his scratch match form against Geelong.

He looked right at home as a silky half forward and given the Pies want to play Jordan de Goey deeper there is a role for him against the Dogs.

Reef McInnes, the No. 23 selection, has had finger surgery while Finlay Macrae (pick 19) has done a lot right over summer but won’t play any of the senior pre-season matches.

He’s going fine, so no worries there Collingwood fans, there are just others ahead of him.

Job security: There is a spot there for Henry to slot straight into Jaidyn Stephenson’s 2020 role so don’t sleep on him despite his youth.

Essendon
Who isn’t going to play early from the Essendon batch of kids? Archie Perkins and Nik Cox should play Round 1, tall forward Harry Jones could play if he performs again in the AAMI Community Series game, while Alec Waterman was officially elevated on Tuesday and should play Round 1. The club’s No. 10 draft pick Zach Reid has had a solid summer but of that trio is the one likely to start the season in the VFL. Ned Cahill played three 2020 games but after being moved into the backline could be a smoky to play 15 games there.

Job security: Essendon wants to play Cox and Perkins early and often. Waterman is the KFC SuperCoach lock though given his price. All of Cox, Perkins and Jones could have breakout games but will be low-possession getters.

Fremantle
No. 14 draft pick Heath Chapman has already slotted into defence impressively in intra-club hit-outs while No. 7 rookie selection Josh Treacy just keeps kicking goals, slotting three in an intra-club recently and then two against West Coast. The Dockers haven’t ruled him out of a Round 1 debut.

Job security: Chapman played only a half in the clash against West Coast so look for his game time as a gauge this weekend.

Geelong
Francis Evans was plucked from nowhere by the Cats in the 2019 national draft at pick no. 41 and the 182cm midfielder got his chance to shine against Collingwood in the six-stanza scrimmage on Friday.

The former Brunswick-NOBS player in the VAFA kicked two goals alongside Tom Hawkins and Jeremy Cameron and looked totally at home.

Cooper Stephens, taken at pick 19 in the same draft, might have to bide his time for a debut given he didn’t play last Friday.

Job security: Geelong has such depth and firepower. If Evans plays, how long can he hold his spot?

Gold Coast
Elijah Hollands is the club’s No. 7 pick but won’t be back until around April or May after an ACL tear last season. He was the club’s only national draft selection.

Job security: Steer clear.

Greater Western Sydney
The club’s No. 12 pick Tanner Bruhn already looks at home although playing as a half forward rather than a midfielder given GWS’ welter of inside stars.

He is every chance to play Round 1 and should get another chance in the AAMI Community Series this weekend.

Uncapped ruckman Matt Flynn more than held his own as the starting ruck against Tom Hickey and Callum Sinclair so he’s an absolute lock for your KFC SuperCoach side.

Conor Stone, the club’s No. 15 pick, played the fifth and sixth periods, while pick 18 Ryan Angwin missed with concussion but both will play a seconds contest this weekend.

Job security: Flynn might be the biggest lock of all the AFL debutantes.

Hawthorn
Denver Grainger-Barras has shown his intercept marking powers as the No. 6 overall pick but only got a half of scratch match action against the Dogs. Watch out for his performance against North Melbourne this weekend to see if he gets a full contest.

The club’s No. 35 draft pick Connor Downie slotted in effortlessly on a wing after a huge summer and is still very much in line to debut against Essendon.

Job security: The Hawks need to stockpile the kids but Downie seems in front of Granger-Barras right now.

Melbourne
Rookie contender Kobe Farmer played against Richmond last week and again showed his class, with the son of Jeff Farmer firming for one of the three vacant list spots.

Last year’s draftees Jake Bowey (pick 21), and Bailey Laurie (pick 22) have already impressed with exquisite disposal but played in the VFL game last week and will do so again this weekend. Majak Daw is still working towards full fitness so the club is tossing up whether he is ready against the Western Bulldogs, while Werribee player Kye Declase has been invited to train with the club but has only a week to impress so might be up against it.

Job security: The Demons have three list spots up for grabs and could have another given Aaron Neitschke’s ACL tear this week. No one is making an absolutely compulsive case to be drafted.

North Melbourne
The Roos would be a little worried that No. 3 overall pick Will Phillips couldn’t crack it for a game while Tom Powell, Charlie Lazzaro and Eddie Ford, all drafted after him, got a run against St Kilda.

Powell is clearly ahead of him in the pecking order.

The Roos play Hawthorn this weekend so watch this space given inside mid Lazzaro and versatile utility Ford didn’t do their chances any harm either.

Job security: You might have to bide your time until Phillips cracks into the side, given he was seen as that hard-running midfielder who would immediately slot into the Roos side.

Shannon · 2 Mar 2021

Port Adelaide
As Dan Houston said on Tuesday of Round 1 aspirants Lachie Jones and Miles Bergman, both would be stiff to miss out given their summers of toil.
Jones has it all as an attacking half back while Bergman missed out on playing for most of 2020 given COVID but has a beautiful mix of high marking and long kicking.
Both impressed assistant coach Brett Montgomery in the clash with Adelaide and they should play again this weekend.
Job security: Competition for spots is at a premium, but the Power won’t be afraid to throw Jones and Bergman into the fray after their history with Connor Rozee and co.

Richmond
The elusive debut of Riley Collier-Dawkins might continue given he missed the scratch match against Melbourne with concussion.
Maurice Rioli played in the last three of seven periods — ostensibly the VFL game — and kicked a couple of lovely goals but despite being described as “breathtaking” by captain Trent Cotchin he’s very much a work in progress.
But halfback Hugo Ralphsmith was excellent in patches as the No. 46 pick in the 2019 national draft and Will Martyn showed flashes of his potential as the pick 44 in the same draft.
Job security: Good luck breaking into the Richmond line-up. Thomson Dow will push hard as well but by Round 1 the stars might all be ready to return except for Bachar Houli (calf).

St Kilda
Mature-aged SANFL pick Tom Highmore was the new Cal Wilkie until he only got a late glimpse of the action against North Melbourne. He will be desperate for more match time against Carlton to push his Round 1 claims. Wilkie, James Frawley and Dougal Howard might all be ahead of him, but with Jarryn Geary and Ben Paton out it’s a big week to push his claims. Pick 26 Matt Allison is a 194cm tall but is just a baby in footy terms.
Job security: The jury is out on Highmore but until last week he couldn’t have done more to impress.

Sydney
Errol Gulden (pick 32) went behind Logan McDonald (pick 4) and Braeden Campbell (pick 5) in last year’s draft but has already shown he is mighty accomplished with another strong midfield performance against GWS.
In a Sydney side keen to keep bringing through the youth, the 175cm mid might not be as eye-catching as Campbell but has been more consistent in his junior career.
McDonald didn’t get near it often in poor conditions, so would need a good showing against GWS again this weekend.
Campbell has a lethal foot and is still every chance of a Round 1 debut with another good showing this weekend.
Job security: The Swans won’t mind blooding McDonald in the new-look VFL but lock in McDonald and Campbell from early in the year.

West Coast
The Eagles haven’t had a pick inside 48 in the past two drafts so will again go in with a mature-aged squad that has added Alex Witherden and Zac Langdon.
Jamaine Jones has had the kind of pre-season to put himself in contention after nine games with Geelong and the Eagles as a small forward.
Job security: Look elsewhere.

Western Bulldogs
The AFL’s No. 1 overall pick Jamarra Ugle-Hagan won’t make his debut in Round 1 unless there are a rash of injuries for the Dogs this weekend.
Aaron Naughton, Josh Bruce and ruck-forward Tim English will all start ahead of him, but that’s no issue given he has already shown his gifts with an impressive seconds display last week.
He needs to get used to the rigours of training and is being pushed off the ball in marking contests, but otherwise has still shown glimpses of magic.
First-year forward Lachie McNeil played in the senior side against Hawthorn and put in a polished display that shows he could take on the Pies in Round 1 as a half forward-wingman.
New rookie elevation Anthony Scott also played a forward, so watch out to see if he gets a crack at it this weekend.
Job security: McNeil has been seriously impressive, but remember how deep the Dogs bat when considering if he can keep his spot.

Ratzondix · 2 Mar 2021

Shannon said:

Port Adelaide
As Dan Houston said on Tuesday of Round 1 aspirants Lachie Jones and Miles Bergman, both would be stiff to miss out given their summers of toil.
Jones has it all as an attacking half back while Bergman missed out on playing for most of 2020 given COVID but has a beautiful mix of high marking and long kicking.
Both impressed assistant coach Brett Montgomery in the clash with Adelaide and they should play again this weekend.
Job security: Competition for spots is at a premium, but the Power won’t be afraid to throw Jones and Bergman into the fray after their history with Connor Rozee and co.

Richmond
The elusive debut of Riley Collier-Dawkins might continue given he missed the scratch match against Melbourne with concussion.
Maurice Rioli played in the last three of seven periods — ostensibly the VFL game — and kicked a couple of lovely goals but despite being described as “breathtaking” by captain Trent Cotchin he’s very much a work in progress.
But halfback Hugo Ralphsmith was excellent in patches as the No. 46 pick in the 2019 national draft and Will Martyn showed flashes of his potential as the pick 44 in the same draft.
Job security: Good luck breaking into the Richmond line-up. Thomson Dow will push hard as well but by Round 1 the stars might all be ready to return except for Bachar Houli (calf).

St Kilda
Mature-aged SANFL pick Tom Highmore was the new Cal Wilkie until he only got a late glimpse of the action against North Melbourne. He will be desperate for more match time against Carlton to push his Round 1 claims. Wilkie, James Frawley and Dougal Howard might all be ahead of him, but with Jarryn Geary and Ben Paton out it’s a big week to push his claims. Pick 26 Matt Allison is a 194cm tall but is just a baby in footy terms.
Job security: The jury is out on Highmore but until last week he couldn’t have done more to impress.

Sydney
Errol Gulden (pick 32) went behind Logan McDonald (pick 4) and Braeden Campbell (pick 5) in last year’s draft but has already shown he is mighty accomplished with another strong midfield performance against GWS.
In a Sydney side keen to keep bringing through the youth, the 175cm mid might not be as eye-catching as Campbell but has been more consistent in his junior career.
McDonald didn’t get near it often in poor conditions, so would need a good showing against GWS again this weekend.
Campbell has a lethal foot and is still every chance of a Round 1 debut with another good showing this weekend.
Job security: The Swans won’t mind blooding McDonald in the new-look VFL but lock in McDonald and Campbell from early in the year.

West Coast
The Eagles haven’t had a pick inside 48 in the past two drafts so will again go in with a mature-aged squad that has added Alex Witherden and Zac Langdon.
Jamaine Jones has had the kind of pre-season to put himself in contention after nine games with Geelong and the Eagles as a small forward.
Job security: Look elsewhere.

Western Bulldogs
The AFL’s No. 1 overall pick Jamarra Ugle-Hagan won’t make his debut in Round 1 unless there are a rash of injuries for the Dogs this weekend.
Aaron Naughton, Josh Bruce and ruck-forward Tim English will all start ahead of him, but that’s no issue given he has already shown his gifts with an impressive seconds display last week.
He needs to get used to the rigours of training and is being pushed off the ball in marking contests, but otherwise has still shown glimpses of magic.
First-year forward Lachie McNeil played in the senior side against Hawthorn and put in a polished display that shows he could take on the Pies in Round 1 as a half forward-wingman.
New rookie elevation Anthony Scott also played a forward, so watch out to see if he gets a crack at it this weekend.
Job security: McNeil has been seriously impressive, but remember how deep the Dogs bat when considering if he can keep his spot.

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Ratzondix · 4 Mar 2021

ADELAIDE
James Rowe $117,300 FWD

SC Average (SANFL 2020): 96

Rowe led the SANFL goal-kicking with 35 majors for Woodville-West Torrens, posting seven scores above 110 on his way to a 96-point KFC SuperCoach average. The industrious small forward shapes as a player who can immediately step into a Crows forward line which struggled for potency last year as a 21-year-old talent. Rowe capped a strong first pre-season with three goals in the Crows’ intraclub hitout in their ‘best’ side and looks a certain Round 1 starter.

SC verdict: There aren’t a great deal of sure things among this rookie crop but he looks like one of them. Being mature-age sweetens the deal.

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New Crows Riley Thilthorpe and James Rowe have impressed at West Lakes. Picture: Daniel Kalisz/Getty Images)
Luke Pedlar $162,300 MID

SC Average (SANFL U18 2020): 128

The bolter of last year’s draft class, swooped on by the Crows after attracting late interest, Pedlar is a big-bodied midfielder who wins contested ball and has a booming left boot. His draft year was curtailed by injury but he began his SANFL U18 season like a house on fire with scores of 155, 140 and 148 across his first four matches. Pedlar was among those to impress in their intraclub, holding his own against Adelaide’s first-choice midfield group. However, he was selected in the Crows’ seconds side in their latest practice match against Port Adelaide.

SC verdict: Remains to be seen where he sits in the midfield pecking order but one who could have an impact from a SuperCoach perspective when given the chance.

Riley Thilthorpe $202,800 FWD/RUCK

SC Average (SANFL 2020): 96

Thilthorpe was the first player taken in the open draft and he should feature early if his body is right to go, after encountering groin trouble in 2020. The 200-centimetre beast is extremely mobile and clunks contested marks, showing off these traits at SANFL senior level, and can play either as a ruckman or a tall forward. Showcased his versatility in the Crows’ internal scratch match by playing on a wing in the second half. The ruck/forward wowed onlookers for Adelaide’s SANFL side in their most recent practice match, suggesting an early debut is on the cards.

SC verdict: While he may play in Round 1, he is too expensive for a player likely to spend most of his time up forward while Reilly O’Brien holds the ruck fort.

Sam Berry $117,300 MID

SC Average (NAB League): 104

Berry was unable to show on field due to the NAB League shutdown but the signs were extremely positive from the inside midfielder as a bottom-ager, including one monster outing. Try these stats on for size – 20 disposals, 18 tackles, 17 contested possessions, nine clearances, three goals and 220 KFC SuperCoach points. Proved he is no slouch in covering the ground either, placing fifth nationally in the 2km time-trial at the draft combine. Along with Pedlar, Berry impressed for the weaker midfield brigade in the Crows’ intra-club clash but he was also unsighted in their first practice match with Port Adelaide..

SC verdict: Lot to like about this youngster and he looms as a profitable pick if he breaks in early.

Brayden Cook $117,300 MID

SC Average (SANFL U18 2020): 120

Took the SANFL U18’s by storm in a barnstorming top-age year, booting 26 majors - and 27 behinds - as a forward/tall wingman who won games off his boot. His high-impact style bodes well for his KFC SuperCoach prospects, although we are only likely to see flashes off this in the early stages of his career rather than the full package. His first pre-season has been stalled by a shoulder injury, which will keep him out for at least the first month of the season.

SC verdict: The Crows are crying out for players with X-Factor, but 2021 looks set to be a development year for Cook.

Young defender Jordon Butts played two games for the Crows in 2020. Picture SARAH REED
Jordon Butts $176,300 DEF

SC average: 47 (2 games)

No Kyle Hartigan means the key defender should benefit from greater opportunity in his third season at the club. He managed respectable scores of 54 and 40 in his two matches in 2020.

Had the ominous task of minding Power spearhead Charlie Dixon in Adelaide’s practice match with defensive pillars Daniel Talia and Tom Doedee both injured – a nod to his improved job security.

SC verdict: We may be forced to entertain pricier options down back, but his role as a lockdown defender means it is probably too much to pay.

Will Hamill $210,900 DEF

SC average: 39.3 (8 games)

Hamill had a rollercoaster first year from a SuperCoach standpoint and his final four scores of the season tells the full story: 13, 96, 18 and 4 – the last one being the only injury affected game of the lot. However, Hamill looks to be among a bunch of young Crows who have upped their game over the pre-season and remains at the higher-end of the rookie price scale.

SC verdict: Al Paton’s rookie POD of 2020 could tempt some, but he would need some stellar pre-season form to justify that asking price.

Ratzondix · 4 Mar 2021

BRISBANE LIONS
Nakia Cockatoo $123,900, FWD/MID

Cockatoo had a strong summer on the track but missed the Lions’ intraclub with a minor hamstring injury. Haven’t we seen this show before? “Whether he’s done enough work to be in line for selection in Round 1, only time will tell,” coach Chris Fagan said.

SC verdict: Alarm bells! Preparing for life without Cockatoo looks like the way to go. The Lions will be extra cautious with the perennially injured playmaker.

Blake Coleman $117,300 FWD

SC average (NAB League, 2019): 66

Coleman has tricks akin to his older brother, fellow Lions Academy graduate Keidean. The small forward has speed and strong goal sense which could see him called upon at some stage.

SC verdict: A similar player to his brother, who averaged 60 points from his four home-and-away matches. We’d take that up forward.

Deven Robertson $176,800 MID

SC average: 47 (1 game)

The prolific junior ball-winner earned a last-minute Round 1 debut in 2020 but was unsighted for the rest of the season. Robertson’s 2019 national carnival sticks in the memory, upstaging Matt Rowell and Tom Green to win the Larke Medal and averaging 30 disposals and 128 points. Keen observers noticed via a coach whiteboard that he was named in the Lions’ stronger team for their intra-club clash – granted, with the returning Jarrod Berry in the seconds - playing through the midfield and up forward.

SC verdict: He may be a key KFC SuperCoach player one day but the Lions are full to the brim with quality inside midfielders.

Ely Smith is pushing for a Round 1 berth.
Ely Smith $123,900 FWD/MID

SC average: N/A

Drafted as an inside bull, Smith has converted to a running midfielder and has turned heads in his third pre-season. The former No.21 draft pick finished fourth in the Lions’ pre-season time-trial and is in the mix for a Round 1 berth on the wing. He flourished in his new role during the Lion’s intra-club, kicking a goal and impacting the contest for the stronger side, while he did his chances no harm in his practice match showing against the Suns.

SC verdict: Swap out Cockatoo for this man as a bench FWD/MID.

Tom Fullarton $128,900, FWD/RUCK

SC average: 30 (2 games)

The former basketballer turned Category B rookie showed real promise on debut last year, kicking 1.2 as a ruck/forward before suffering an in-game injury in their next match. The ruck make-up of the Lions without Stefan Martin could see opportunities come his way in support the emerging Oscar McInerney.

SC verdict: Competing with Archie Smith for that second ruck spot, and he could have his measure considering his forward craft. One to ponder if he looks like playing with his handy ruck/forward status.

Ratzondix · 4 Mar 2021

CARLTON
Corey Durdin $117,300 MID/FWD

SC Average (SANFL 2020): 55

Capable of slotting into the Blues line-up this season as a small forward and started strongly in his first pre-season. The 172cm product made his SANFL debut for Central District as a 17-year-old and managed another nine games in 2020, where he averaged 55 points — including an injury-affected score of four. However, his Round 1 chances took a dint when he missed out on selection in Carlton’s practice match against Essendon.

SC verdict: Should feature in SuperCoach calculations at some stage and his DPP is handy.

Paddy Dow $202,400 FWD/MID

SC Average: 38 (3 games)

Remarkably, less than $10k separates Dow’s cost in 2021 from the price he started at in 2018, after being prized with the third pick in the 2017 National Draft. It’s been a patchy start to the young midfielder’s career due to injury and form, but we saw signs of his enormous potential in his eye-catching display against Essendon. A beefed-up Dow slotted two goals and showcased his blistering speed, a standout trait in his draft year. He also looks to have improved his polish – one of the major knocks on him thus far – significantly.

SC verdict: Another effort like this in Carlton’s second practice game and he will be too hard to ignore. But it is worth remembering he has scored above 80 points just once in his career to date.

Corey Durdin is a potential KFC SuperCoach cash cow in 2021. Picture: Robert Cianflone/Getty Images

Paddy Dow looks ready to go to a new level in 2021.
Liam Stocker $186,500 DEF

SC Average: N/A

We didn’t get to see Stocker in action last season after leaving the hub in July due to personal reasons. As a defender, Stocker averaged a serviceable 49.5 points across five matches as a cash-cow in 2019 and could better that if he receives more senior opportunity. Blues midfield coach John Barker says Stocker has been training in the engine room, where he won a Morrish Medal for the Sandringham Dragons as a junior. “He’s been training as a midfielder but he’s continuing to work on all aspects of his game to fit in where needed if needed, he’s training to be flexible,” he told the club website.

SC verdict: His place in the side is the big question with the arrival of lucrative signings Adam Saad and Zac Williams.

Luke Parks $117,400 DEF

SC Average (SANFL 2020): 73

Parks is a mature-age medium defender who became a Blue via last year’s rookie draft following stints in the SANFL and the NEAFL as part of the Swans Academy. He averaged 73 points last season for Glenelg in 2020 and hit the target with 72 per cent of his kicks.

SC verdict: While he has senior experience on his side, the Blues look well stocked in defence.