Discussion 2021: Round 1: Teams & In Game Discussion

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Rubbish IMO.

Has obviously worked his ass off over the pre-season and Geelong clearly have long term plans for him as they weren't willing to listen to any trade offers. Has earnt the spot and now it's his to lose.
And didn’t he look good in the preseason game. 100+ from 3 quarters.
 
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Rubbish IMO.

Has obviously worked his ass off over the pre-season and Geelong clearly have long term plans for him as they weren't willing to listen to any trade offers. Has earnt the spot and now it's his to lose.
Just curious, what do you see Clark averaging once Duncan, Higgins, Menegola, Smith take roles on the wing, and Stewart, Atkins take roles off half-back?
 
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Just curious, what do you see Clark averaging once Duncan, Higgins, Menegola, Smith take roles on the wing, and Stewart, Atkins take roles off half-back?
Can hopefully see him pushing 80ppg, I think his ceiling is higher though. IMO he adds something to that team that they desperately lack, youthful exuberance. Wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the season he's overtaken all of the guys on that list in terms of talent outside of Duncan or Stewart.
 
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Can hopefully see him pushing 80ppg, I think his ceiling is higher though. IMO he adds something to that team that they desperately lack, youthful exuberance. Wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the season he's overtaken all of the guys on that list in terms of talent outside of Duncan or Stewart.
At his price, anything less than 80 IMO is a failed selection. The only chance I see for him is finding a role off half-back, minimal chance he overtakes any of the senior guys.
 

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At his price, anything less than 80 IMO is a failed selection.
Everyone's opinion is different, but I see him as 66 to 72 a draw, 73+ a win.
He's currently not in my team, and I think he'll be in that 75 to 77 area by years end.
Chopping him and Daniher got me to another Mid Prem, otherwise I'd have him.
 
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Everyone's opinion is different, but I see him as 66 to 72 a draw, 73+ a win.
He's currently not in my team, and I think he'll be in that 75 to 77 area by years end.
Chopping him and Daniher got me to another Mid Prem, otherwise I'd have him.
Correct me if the figures are wrong (I'm using a 3rd party site), but a 73 will appreciate his price by roughly 106k by round 10 (upgrade time ish).

106k is probably a bit too low for my liking, even an average of 80 will only earn you 135k ish, which isn't great, but is serviceable given the lack of options.

Even a Murray averaging 50 will earn you more cash than Clark averaging 73.
 

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Correct me if the figures are wrong (I'm using a 3rd party site), but a 73 will appreciate his price by roughly 106k by round 10 (upgrade time ish).

106k is probably a bit too low for my liking, even an average of 80 will only earn you 135k ish, which isn't great, but is serviceable given the lack of options.
I don't directly compare Stepping Stones with Rookies. Given their JS, and generally better scoring than all bar the top 3 or 4 Rookies, I generally consider, if they can give me a safe on field option, score decent points compared to most Rookies, and make $100k, they have fulfilled their task.
As I said though, everyone has different opinions and expectations.
 
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Correct me if the figures are wrong (I'm using a 3rd party site), but a 73 will appreciate his price by roughly 106k by round 10 (upgrade time ish).

106k is probably a bit too low for my liking, even an average of 80 will only earn you 135k ish, which isn't great, but is serviceable given the lack of options.

Even a Murray averaging 50 will earn you more cash than Clark averaging 73.
But he gets to $350k which is to me more important than what he started at and what the delta is.
it takes most base priced rookies weeks and weeks to even get to $280k let alone $350k.
If Murray averages 50 he will struggle up to $250k by R9 and then what. He’s made the magical $150k but it’s a bit low to be part of an easy up and down trade.
I think at times there is too much emphasis on what they make and not enough on where they get to. It can lead to over valuing the base price rooks relative to the higher priced ones.
 
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But he gets to $350k which is to me more important than what he started at and what the delta is.
it takes most base priced rookies weeks and weeks to even get to $280k let alone $350k.
If Murray averages 50 he will struggle up to $250k by R9 and then what. He’s made the magical $150k but it’s a bit low to be part of an easy up and down trade.
I'm sure most would have at least 1 of Daniher, Ziebell, Impey, Young, Clark, Tyson etc. You'd target a trade around the 400k mark for all of them.

One of the above + Murray would be around 650k, which is easily enough for an underpriced premium + rookie.
 
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I'm sure most would have at least 1 of Daniher, Ziebell, Impey, Young, Clark, Tyson etc. You'd target a trade around the 400k mark for all of them.

One of the above + Murray would be around 650k, which is easily enough for an underpriced premium + rookie.
That’s a $530k premium. Should be enough in the forwards and def. Likely not enough in the mids. And if you have only one of those $400k guys then Murray and him have allowed one upgrade. What about the other 8?

I’m not saying don’t pick Murray because of this of course. Just saying that him making $150k is borderline to claim a “win” relative to Clark averaging 77. It prob means he’s on your bench all year.
 
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