Discussion 2021: Round 1: Teams & In Game Discussion

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Appreciate the Cahill comment 👍
Just IMO... they’ve been priming him for a role and there’s been a lot of good feedback on his progress. I think in the position the team is in he should be given a role, especially in the reshuffle that has to happen after Stewart was injured. Preemptive sorry if I’m wrong. He’s in my team at the moment.
 
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The "pick rookies who didn't play a preseason match" rule really gets tested when there's only one offical preseason match......
From AFL DraftCentral

https://afl.draftcentral.com.au/player/sam-berry/

Berry is a readymade developed player who is one of the few that could step straight into a senior line-up. With a high-level endurance base, Berry has no troubles running out full matches which is how he was able to slot into a spot in a midfield that had a plethora of draftable talent last year. Alongside Rising Star Caleb Serong and fellow first round pick Sam Flanders, Berry more than held his own, and even held that midfield together when the pair and others were away with Vic Country representation. While he did not make the Under 18 National Championships Vic Country side as a bottom-ager, he would have featured heavily in this year’s carnival had it gone ahead.

Berry’s contested work is what stands out in his game, with his fierce attack on the ball and consistent performances week-in, week-out a highlight. He averaged 17.7 disposals per game in 2019, not dipping below 12 touches in that time, and hitting the 20-disposal mark in five of his 10 games. Just as importantly, he had at least three tackles in every game, with five or more in seven of them, including his whopping 18-tackle game against Geelong Falcons. In that match he had 20 disposals – 17 contested – 18 tackles, nine clearances, two inside 50s, two rebounds and three goals to be best afield in an absolute slog fest. To finish the season, Berry averaged 6.5 tackles and 4.4 clearances, having four or more clearances in seven of his matches.

Berry still has areas to work on and it is not too much of a surprise for a hardened inside midfielder that kicking, particularly under pressure is an area he could build on. He sometimes rushes the ball or throws it on his boot from the stoppage, when the situation could use more composure or decision making by foot. He can be incredibly damaging by hand out of the stoppage, but by foot he averaged just the 48.5 per cent. A part of that is the fact he does not have the burst speed some others have, and whilst he has the evasion skills and endurance to power through opponents, he can rush the disposal. With some work on improving that burst speed, it would help give him an extra few split seconds to dispose of the ball.

At the 2020 Victorian Draft Combine, Berry produced elite numbers in both the 2km time trial (6:10) and the running vertical leap (94cm off his left), showing off what he capable of in the air. Whilst his role rarely allows him to utilise his aerial ability, it is handy to have. The time trial time was no surprise though with a tailwind that favoured the 20m sprint times, it made it more challenging for the 2km given the prospects had to run into the breeze for half of the time trial.

Overall though, Berry has a really strong profile for his role. As an inside midfielder he ticks a lot of the boxes and you can never fault his effort. He is one who could really have been tested against the best opponents in the country this year, but given his consistent 2019 season, it is anticipated a club will pounce at the opportunity for a person of his character and work ethic to walk through the doors. He could be comparable to a Will Brodie at AFL level with the bigger body and good inside work.
 
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The "pick rookies who didn't play a preseason match" rule really gets tested when there's only one offical preseason match......
He did play, right? Just small time on ground
JS for the Adelaide boys has to be better than most
What about Berry though? Is he MCrouch replacement for just one game?

Hmmmmm...
 
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*opens sc app - confirms 3 players tonight*

*re-open sc app - just to check I didn’t miss anyone*

*re-open sc app - make sure no glitches. And I’m sure I didn’t put Aarts in my team did I?*

*re-open sc app - s**t I didn’t have the VC/C on Dow did I?

I do the same going overseas. Check my passport 8 times on the way to the airport as if it’s about to grow legs
 
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Could be worse. Our guy has has watched his undersized mids get monstered by all the contending oppo midfields now for 9 years. Still persists with creating stoppages where his gun ruckman decides consistently to drop it at his own feet, whereupon our players bounce off the likes of Dangerfield, Martin, the entirety of GWS and so on. Seems that our million dollar ruckman is coached that way by his you-bewt ruck coach who played CHF. Don't want to go over the soft cap now by getting a specialist coach for our most expensive asset and our 3 other ruckmen we have on our list now do we? Midfielders are what's important. And flankers. It's why we have so few quality KPPs. Not sure why it was so important to drop 7 mil on a ruckman then, but let's not go there.

Fair enough though, we do win a share of stoppages, whereupon we play chip chip and kamikazee handball, allowing the oppo to structure up in their D50. We have to do this because the only way we win stoppages is by taking a forward out and have him play the +1 at The All Important Contest, leaving **** all up front to kick to. So we wait until we get our tall forwards back in the 50, by which stage everyone else has got there and, if the zone isn't completely choca block, the oppo has been able to at least get their mob right where they need them for the coast to coast rebound. Our tall forwards aren't much chop in the first place, by the way and really need one out opportunities but you know. We're all about the clearances. Except when we're playing West Coast I think. Then we're allergic to them.

We have a 7 foot guy who is great running on to the high ball 20 out and rarely misses. So we have him provide the outlet option on the wing and back flank. Time after time after time. Sometimes, we have him camp under the ball where he gets knocked off balance too easily and we just sit it on his head like he's Travis ****ing Cloke and wonder why he can't take the grab.

Our only other talls up front are a novice ruck with modest forward craft and a short, repurposed full back, while our only hope for a gun full forward has been playing centre half back for the last 5 years or so and only gets trialled up forward once the game is lost. Even then, it's a 50/50 shot at being tried. So we rely on medium sized forwards and promptly kick it slow and high to them, where the likes of Fatty McGovern dines out like he's back at his favourite all you can eat shrimp restaurant. Grimes doesn't even bother staging against us. He just stands there while we effectively pick him out for a solid 2 hour stretch.

So the only hope we then have is for a burst of x factor forward brilliance. We had exactly 2 players with that sort of ability. The first was too fat to play full seasons of footy and is now getting moved to the midfield anyway since Buckley and co realise if they don't get some weight around the All Important Contest they might be out of a job by August. Only took 'em 9 years and we'll still play the +1 anyway. You ****ing watch. The other x factor forward was sold to North for a bag of soggy Twisties on account (apparently) of him not having a good connection with his team mates. Like an episode of MAFS for ****s sake. 100 million dollar a year organisation and this is the sort of decision making that goes on.

Meanwhile, Thomas and Hoskin-Elliott can't seem to miss a game. I mean... they do like to go missing for games at a time but we can't drop them, for fear of exposing any of our first year talent to senior action before they've had the mandatory Collingwood Rip 'Er Off the Bone hamstring incident. 9 years ago, we hired Bill Davoren as our fitness guy. AKA, Dr Death. AKA Dr Davorkian. Sure enough we started dropping like flies. After a few years of (and I quote) training them till they break, the hierarchy thought better of the notion and gave the Butcher of Batman Avenue his marching orders. We then promoted his apprentice to the role. Kid had never worked for anyone else. Lo and behold! Nothing changed! Whoda thunk it?

You all know the line about leadership and not being the smartest guy in the room. The unfortunate thing at the Pies is that everyone in our decision structure seems hell bent on living out that ethos at the same time. It just doesn't work like that. Someone's gotta stop being the nuff nuff.

You know what, Melbourne fans? Look... I read DemonBlog during your darkest days and I understand that if there's one thing you guys know more than anyone else about, it's terrible coaching. But you think Goodwin's hopeless? Tell you what... we'll swap. We'll take Goodwin and you can have Buckley. Hell, we'll even throw in Banger and Sando for free.

What's that? Yeah.... Didn't think so
Absolute Gold.

CMON the PIES.
 
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The "pick rookies who didn't play a preseason match" rule really gets tested when there's only one offical preseason match......
Even harder when you know that rookie is literally replacing Matt Crouch. Who knows if he holds his spot when Crouch is back?

Honestly Adelaide could lose by 80+ on the weekend, talk about throwing a young bloke in the deep end.
 
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Could be worse. Our guy has has watched his undersized mids get monstered by all the contending oppo midfields now for 9 years. Still persists with creating stoppages where his gun ruckman decides consistently to drop it at his own feet, whereupon our players bounce off the likes of Dangerfield, Martin, the entirety of GWS and so on. Seems that our million dollar ruckman is coached that way by his you-bewt ruck coach who played CHF. Don't want to go over the soft cap now by getting a specialist coach for our most expensive asset and our 3 other ruckmen we have on our list now do we? Midfielders are what's important. And flankers. It's why we have so few quality KPPs. Not sure why it was so important to drop 7 mil on a ruckman then, but let's not go there.

Fair enough though, we do win a share of stoppages, whereupon we play chip chip and kamikazee handball, allowing the oppo to structure up in their D50. We have to do this because the only way we win stoppages is by taking a forward out and have him play the +1 at The All Important Contest, leaving **** all up front to kick to. So we wait until we get our tall forwards back in the 50, by which stage everyone else has got there and, if the zone isn't completely choca block, the oppo has been able to at least get their mob right where they need them for the coast to coast rebound. Our tall forwards aren't much chop in the first place, by the way and really need one out opportunities but you know. We're all about the clearances. Except when we're playing West Coast I think. Then we're allergic to them.

We have a 7 foot guy who is great running on to the high ball 20 out and rarely misses. So we have him provide the outlet option on the wing and back flank. Time after time after time. Sometimes, we have him camp under the ball where he gets knocked off balance too easily and we just sit it on his head like he's Travis ****ing Cloke and wonder why he can't take the grab.

Our only other talls up front are a novice ruck with modest forward craft and a short, repurposed full back, while our only hope for a gun full forward has been playing centre half back for the last 5 years or so and only gets trialled up forward once the game is lost. Even then, it's a 50/50 shot at being tried. So we rely on medium sized forwards and promptly kick it slow and high to them, where the likes of Fatty McGovern dines out like he's back at his favourite all you can eat shrimp restaurant. Grimes doesn't even bother staging against us. He just stands there while we effectively pick him out for a solid 2 hour stretch.

So the only hope we then have is for a burst of x factor forward brilliance. We had exactly 2 players with that sort of ability. The first was too fat to play full seasons of footy and is now getting moved to the midfield anyway since Buckley and co realise if they don't get some weight around the All Important Contest they might be out of a job by August. Only took 'em 9 years and we'll still play the +1 anyway. You ****ing watch. The other x factor forward was sold to North for a bag of soggy Twisties on account (apparently) of him not having a good connection with his team mates. Like an episode of MAFS for ****s sake. 100 million dollar a year organisation and this is the sort of decision making that goes on.

Meanwhile, Thomas and Hoskin-Elliott can't seem to miss a game. I mean... they do like to go missing for games at a time but we can't drop them, for fear of exposing any of our first year talent to senior action before they've had the mandatory Collingwood Rip 'Er Off the Bone hamstring incident. 9 years ago, we hired Bill Davoren as our fitness guy. AKA, Dr Death. AKA Dr Davorkian. Sure enough we started dropping like flies. After a few years of (and I quote) training them till they break, the hierarchy thought better of the notion and gave the Butcher of Batman Avenue his marching orders. We then promoted his apprentice to the role. Kid had never worked for anyone else. Lo and behold! Nothing changed! Whoda thunk it?

You all know the line about leadership and not being the smartest guy in the room. The unfortunate thing at the Pies is that everyone in our decision structure seems hell bent on living out that ethos at the same time. It just doesn't work like that. Someone's gotta stop being the nuff nuff.

You know what, Melbourne fans? Look... I read DemonBlog during your darkest days and I understand that if there's one thing you guys know more than anyone else about, it's terrible coaching. But you think Goodwin's hopeless? Tell you what... we'll swap. We'll take Goodwin and you can have Buckley. Hell, we'll even throw in Banger and Sando for free.

What's that? Yeah.... Didn't think so
Soooooo. I won’t ask you for your thoughts on Henry.?
 
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