Strategy Round 3: Trades

[Spifflicator]

Considering Tarranto to Tex (Jones -> Berry as the other trade makes it work), don't feel great doing it but I have concerns around GWS and Tex's BE is -114 with a seemingly soft month ahead (GC, North, Freo and Hawks).

McDonald is probably the only other rookie I missed out on, but have opted for Berry over him. The above leaves me with nearly $200k if he forces my hand with another big score next week.

Aren't you restructuring if you do that? Taranto was picked as a keeper, while Tex is a mid price cash cow who will need to be retraded once he has made cash. This means you are using a minimum of 2 trades on a spot where you originally planned for zero. While Tex is a good money maker, dont bugger up your team by forcing a trade when trying to get him in.

 

[Deeman1]

Any Tom Phillips owners likely to just hold him? Scored 90 round 1 and still had 24 touches round 2 but only went at 45% DE and had 6 clangers attributing to his poor score.

Still a chance of averaging in the 90's from here?

Dunno, I recon I will probably take him down to Impey potentially.

I can handle Impey scoring 60's and 70's, but not sure I can handle Phillips scoring 60's.

My probem is I had all of Phillips, Tarranto and Duggan go at at DT:SC ratio's of 86:67 (Tarranto), 98:65 (Duggan) and 84:56 (Phillips), something has to give.

 

[Presto]

Any Tom Phillips owners likely to just hold him? Scored 90 round 1 and still had 24 touches round 2 but only went at 45% DE and had 6 clangers attributing to his poor score.

Still a chance of averaging in the 90's from here?

Keeping him for now, because I have more pressing problems with Neale and Cripps.
This round will be Neale side trade to one of the better performing premium ((Boak, Brayshaw, Ridley)
and then upgrading Henry to Tex (pure cash grab, since Henry is gone as a cash cow.)

 

[AngryAnt]

Merrett is a clear case of one good pre season game and people thinking a player is better than what they actually are.

It was more based on the back half of last season and getting much more inside midfield time.

 

[Slacker]

Generally any player with a BE of -100 or lower should be very seriously considered, especially early doors, and Tex does.
If I'd been a little more proactive and not so fixactive last round and had a spare trade this week I'd most definitely be grabbing Tex and riding the wave ala Travis Cloke style.
Unfortunately by not grabbing one of Jordon or Warner R2 I think they both just sneak ahead at the moment, just.
Within reason, fortune favours the brave.

 

[Slacker]

Any Tom Phillips owners likely to just hold him? Scored 90 round 1 and still had 24 touches round 2 but only went at 45% DE and had 6 clangers attributing to his poor score.

Still a chance of averaging in the 90's from here?

He may come good and his DPP may be useful at some point, maybe.

 

[jaca]

Fyfe —> Tex —> Neale... worth it?!

 

[Quarterback]

With good cash generation this year with the rookies, I think it is crazy trading out your under performing premium players after round 2.
If you think Neale will average 90 this year and not be a top 10 mid, by all means pull the trigger, but he wont average 90, will be more like 110-115. Cripps same boat, started slow but is one game away from bursting the dam wall and having a 5 round 130 ave.
If rookies were not generating $$ and we needed every cent to count, yeah I understand the trade/s, but this year will be like no other, rookies are booming and there will be teams with full of uber premiums on each line. Those that sideways trade now will be the ones that won't benefit.
There's 23 rounds this season with 30 trades, will be injuries to key players, don't waste your petrol early putting the foot the floor.

 

[Shannon]

Merrett is a clear case of one good pre season game and people thinking a player is better than what they actually are.

Disagree, when Ben Rutten starting having a bigger influence (Woosha took a back seat) in Essendon's setup/style of play during the middle part of last season, one of the first things he did was to move Merrett into the centre square rather than have him out on a wing so he became a complete inside/outside midfielder.

Here are his scores to finish last season :-



In 2016 he averaged 111 & in 2017 he averaged 109 - he has also been very durable throughout his career.

Another other appealing factor for me selecting him is that midfielders than can win the contested ball then spread quickly to get it on the outside seem to be the ones that benefit the most from the new rules - Merrett also has elite endurance, can run all day so the reduced rotations will help him late in games when most are out of gas.

Scoring 91 v a very good team in Port at their home ground isn't too bad ( felt he was underscored myself), I still believe he will be one of the top SC midfielders this season.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

With good cash generation this year with the rookies, I think it is crazy trading out your under performing premium players after round 2.
If you think Neale will average 90 this year and not be a top 10 mid, by all means pull the trigger, but he wont average 90, will be more like 110-115. Cripps same boat, started slow but is one game away from bursting the dam wall and having a 5 round 130 ave.
If rookies were not generating $$ and we needed every cent to count, yeah I understand the trade/s, but this year will be like no other, rookies are booming and there will be teams with full of uber premiums on each line. Those that sideways trade now will be the ones that won't benefit.
There's 23 rounds this season with 30 trades, will be injuries to key players, don't waste your petrol early putting the foot the floor.

Cripps with a 5 round 130 average?? Not sure we've watched the same Cripps the last two weeks. He is so far away from a 130 game, let alone a 5 round 130 average.

 

[Spifflicator]

With good cash generation this year with the rookies, I think it is crazy trading out your under performing premium players after round 2.
If you think Neale will average 90 this year and not be a top 10 mid, by all means pull the trigger, but he wont average 90, will be more like 110-115. Cripps same boat, started slow but is one game away from bursting the dam wall and having a 5 round 130 ave.
If rookies were not generating $$ and we needed every cent to count, yeah I understand the trade/s, but this year will be like no other, rookies are booming and there will be teams with full of uber premiums on each line. Those that sideways trade now will be the ones that won't benefit.
There's 23 rounds this season with 30 trades, will be injuries to key players, don't waste your petrol early putting the foot the floor.

Great comment. I have decided that unless the selection table forces it, Dow stays and Tex doesnt come in. I have all the good rookies bar Jordon and maybe McDonald/Berry, so I can let them all percolate for a few rounds before the culling begins. So right now it's only Bruhn > Jordon. The other trade stays in the bank, maybe for an OMG selection moment on friday or saturday night.

 

[Herbie66]

With good cash generation this year with the rookies, I think it is crazy trading out your under performing premium players after round 2.
If you think Neale will average 90 this year and not be a top 10 mid, by all means pull the trigger, but he wont average 90, will be more like 110-115. Cripps same boat, started slow but is one game away from bursting the dam wall and having a 5 round 130 ave.
If rookies were not generating $$ and we needed every cent to count, yeah I understand the trade/s, but this year will be like no other, rookies are booming and there will be teams with full of uber premiums on each line. Those that sideways trade now will be the ones that won't benefit.
There's 23 rounds this season with 30 trades, will be injuries to key players, don't waste your petrol early putting the foot the floor.

Nice post.

Just curious who are the bench rookies that are booming ?

Koschitzke , Sharp
McNeil , Scott
Hunter
Fullarton , Jones

etc etc

Flynn will make money but is probably wasted at R3 at this stage.

don't look booming to me , well and good having the standard ones onfield , but still need the majority of bench rookies to be able to make $ 150k each as well to actually then afford upgrades.

 

[Deeman1]

With good cash generation this year with the rookies, I think it is crazy trading out your under performing premium players after round 2.
If you think Neale will average 90 this year and not be a top 10 mid, by all means pull the trigger, but he wont average 90, will be more like 110-115. Cripps same boat, started slow but is one game away from bursting the dam wall and having a 5 round 130 ave.
If rookies were not generating $$ and we needed every cent to count, yeah I understand the trade/s, but this year will be like no other, rookies are booming and there will be teams with full of uber premiums on each line. Those that sideways trade now will be the ones that won't benefit.
There's 23 rounds this season with 30 trades, will be injuries to key players, don't waste your petrol early putting the foot the floor.

Which rookies are booming?

Gulden, Campbell, Warner Flynn, Highmore, sure, not sure which others you are referring to.

I had 6 rookies, which are probably on the more popular side score sub 40 on the weekend, not sure there is much cash to be made from them in the short-term, unless things improve.

 

[HomerJ]

My first trade will probably be bringing Impey in for Cahill. That will use most of my spare cash. Not sure what to do with my second trade. I have both of Scott and McNeil but with only 20k spare after my first trade, and most of the better performing rookies, Brockman is my only real option to correct one of them. Not sure he's a sufficiently better option to burn a trade on?

I had plenty of lacklustre premo scores on the weekend, but I'm generally loathe to trade them out on such a small sample size. All Cripps owners would have loved a better return to date, and I am tempted move him to Dusty, but I've been burned in the past moving a slow starter out for a quick starter so not sure if that is a good move at this stage.

 

[AngryAnt]

Jack Bowes, anyone reckon he is a top 8 defender this season? 5th year, former top 10 pick, playing perfect role for SC this year, taking most of the kick ins, good age for a breakout, excellent kick on him, the ball will still be in the GC backline a fair bit and in the previous year scored 90+ in 8/17 games he played although never going above 21 disposals in a game (shortened games notwithstanding). He has already had two games of 30 and 31 disposals this season.

Natural progression and new rules, can he take his game to a premo defender level this season or is it early season spike? From the eye he looks like a perfect SC defender this season and against West Coast it was like watching Lloyd. Haven't made any trades and can't afford Taranto to Ridley which would have been my preferred trade this week (also need to get Jordon in) and Bowes is looking very tempting as a straight swap for a speculative starting pick that doesn't look like he'll work out.

 

[Shaunpro1]

It was more based on the back half of last season and getting much more inside midfield time.

Depends how much you rate ridiculous midfield scaling of 2020, personally just dont think hes better than anything he delivered in 2017-2019, 100-110 is where he's at.

 

[manyproblems]

I think Phillips>Tex and Scott>Jordon.

I dont have Impey but I might have the cash to get him next week pending if Bergman gets a price rise. Think he's a must.

 

[AngryAnt]

Depends how much you rate ridiculous midfield scaling of 2020, personally just dont think hes better than anything he delivered in 2017-2019, 100-110 is where he's at.

I'd say he's a solid 110 for 22 games if given the role he got at the back end of last season, it might not be the greatest value at $620k but I'll take 22 games at that than Fyfe going at 125 and missing multiple games for example.

 

[Shannon]

Jack Bowes, anyone reckon he is a top 8 defender this season? 5th year, former top 10 pick, playing perfect role for SC this year, taking most of the kick ins, good age for a breakout, excellent kick on him, the ball will still be in the GC backline a fair bit and in the previous year scored 90+ half of the games he played in 8/17 games he played. Natural progression and new rules, can he take his game to a premo defender level this season or is it early season spike? From the eye he looks like a perfect SC defender this season. Haven't made any trades and can't afford Taranto to Ridely which would have been my preferred trade this week (also need to get Jordon in) and Bowes is looking very tempting as a straight swap for a speculative starting pick that doesn't look like he'll work out.

If I had to pick one defender that would have breakout year this season, Bowes would be the guy - from the 2 Suns games I have seen this season, with Lukosius getting moved further up the ground, he really seems to be the suns "quarterback". Playing a very SC friendly role this season for sure.

 

[BarginHunter]

Do you have all the must have rookies ?

Last chance to get them this Round before price changes.

If you still think Neale is going to be a Top 8-10 mid I would keep him and just hope his scoring improves ASAP.

Even if he drops to $ 600k in a few rounds he will still probably need 2 perfect downgrades to make it happen.

Surely you are not going to upgrade Campbell , Gulden or Jordon in Round 5 or 6 to try and get Neale back.

Onfield rookies are strong , scoring points , making $$$.

The majority of people's bench rookies look poor $$$ generators already.

I don't own Neale btw.

Why don't you do :-

Caldwell - > Jordon
Rowell - > Mitchell

I got all the rookies except Jordon, Meek(coz im going gawndy).

I don't think Neale will be top 4, i think if he pulls up his socks he'll make top 10, But how much cash does he lose before then?

At the moment i don't see myself looking to get Neale back

Yeah, I do regret starting him, that preseason tricked me big time.

I was going to go Rowell into either Brayshaw or Walsh since they look good. (I see Brayshaw having a big season)

I just remembered i have Briggs as well so could do a defender option?