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Are you a closet SC atheist? Because our Gods certainly do not favour you...

As for my season (which is going down hill steadily), I have been praying to them and offering a deal as such. They may take a month off of my life for every right decision I make regarding my team hence forth. Some may say this is striking an absurdly short sighted bargain but I am pretty sure I can renegotiate those months back in future deals.

That's how religion works right? :unsure:
If your season is going like mine, you'll end up sacrificing nothing :LOL: Can't get a thing right and most of it isn't even luck related!
 
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Rolling announcements fundamentally changing the game. Fascinated to see if things return one we’ve a had the jab, but it’s not made SC all that fun.
Impact is worse in draft and keeper leagues where donuts and out of position players can’t be fixed via in round trades and require round the weekend monitoring rather than set and forget as at Friday night.

Mark my words this will lead to a massive drop off for all forms of fantasy.
 
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Hate the rolling lock out personally the old set and forget team bring it back please. I can’t sit on my phone or computer/iPad all weekend and wait for teams and do loops ect
While a lot of people enjoy the rolling lockout in reality it kills off any chance of a casual player doing well overall or in competitive leagues. My loss of enjoyment has definitely started to grow when it came in and built since.
 
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I sent a feedback message of to SC about this.
Not hopeful anything will change, but if enough people complain maybe they'll do something.

AFL have changed the rules ie rolling team announcements, but SC haven't changed to keep up with it.
Extra trades and/or the ability to reverse trades once the round has started, so long as the player hasn't played were my suggestions.
I know this is a popular suggestion but it doesn’t actually make sense when thought through logically.

If a trade can be reversed in this way then the trade didn’t need to be made as early as it was.

What needs to change is coach behaviour. Trade as late in the round as possible, ie Saturday night or Sunday, end of story. This will cover 90% of risks, but will not cover late changes and medical subs.
 
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I agree with @jel that AFL have changed the rules ie rolling team announcements, but SC haven't changed to keep up with it. Also agree with @couchPOTATO that there is a possibility this will lead to a massive drop off for Fantasy SC. And with @Dukez regarding it’s starting to become a bit of a chore having to check subs/ teams/ every few hours.

The 2 changes I like most that SC could make are:
1. To have the ability to reverse trades once the round has started, so long as the player hasn't played.
2. The highest scoring bench player, in each line, automatically replaces one non-player.

These changes could be made as soon as possible, as I don't think it will disadvantage any SuperCoach Teams this season.
 
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I know this is a popular suggestion but it doesn’t actually make sense when thought through logically.

If a trade can be reversed in this way then the trade didn’t need to be made as early as it was.

What needs to change is coach behaviour. Trade as late in the round as possible, ie Saturday night or Sunday, end of story. This will cover 90% of risks, but will not cover late changes and medical subs.
Calling it a reverse of the trade is my bad terminology, It's more the ability to alter a trade.

I'd offer the following example:
Trade Player A + Player B for Premo + Rookie, both trades have to occur to have the funds for the premo
Rookie plays late and after the round has started he is not named.
By having the ability to select a different rookie you can adjust to the late announcement.

It's like the current trade trick but with the ability to do it once you've used your trades for the round.
 
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Calling it a reverse of the trade is my bad terminology, It's more the ability to alter a trade.

I'd offer the following example:
Trade Player A + Player B for Premo + Rookie, both trades have to occur to have the funds for the premo
Rookie plays late and after the round has started he is not named.
By having the ability to select a different rookie you can adjust to the late announcement.

It's like the current trade trick but with the ability to do it once you've used your trades for the round.
I really like this, but it would be good if you could edit the trade out player as well if they haven't played yet. Take last week for example, I traded Daniel and Daniher to Steele and Waterman but had to do both on the thursday night to free up the cash. If I had known Clark was 100% not playing I would have traded him instead, so the ability to change the trade on saturday before Daniher played would have been great (assuming I had the unlocked DPP players to still do it).
 
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For what it's worth, I would also love the ability to set an order for emergencies. If you have 2 mids that are questionable to play but you want them on field, you run the risk of either taking a donut if both pull out and you have 1 emergency set or getting the worst emergency score if you set 2 to try and cover yourself. If you could prioritise the order they are used then you could set two on that line without having to worry as much.
 
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I really like this, but it would be good if you could edit the trade out player as well if they haven't played yet. Take last week for example, I traded Daniel and Daniher to Steele and Waterman but had to do both on the thursday night to free up the cash. If I had known Clark was 100% not playing I would have traded him instead, so the ability to change the trade on saturday before Daniher played would have been great (assuming I had the unlocked DPP players to still do it).
Trading in a later premium than Steele is the solution.

That way you hold both trades and can react more flexibly through the round.

FWIW I don’t mind the suggested adjustments to trades as described in principle but it is important to recognise that it is the habit of trading early that is worsening the ability of teams to react.
 
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Trading in a later premium than Steele is the solution.

That way you hold both trades and can react more flexibly through the round.

FWIW I don’t mind the suggested adjustments to trades as described in principle but it is important to recognise that it is the habit of trading early that is worsening the ability of teams to react.
Choosing a later premium is still the same problem - making a compromised trade due to the staggered team announcements. I either miss out on my preferred premium or run the risk of trading out the wrong person.. either way, not ideal!
 
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I agree with @jel that AFL have changed the rules ie rolling team announcements, but SC haven't changed to keep up with it. Also agree with @couchPOTATO that there is a possibility this will lead to a massive drop off for Fantasy SC. And with @Dukez regarding it’s starting to become a bit of a chore having to check subs/ teams/ every few hours.

The 2 changes I like most that SC could make are:
1. To have the ability to reverse trades once the round has started, so long as the player hasn't played.
2. The highest scoring bench player, in each line, automatically replaces one non-player.

These changes could be made as soon as possible, as I don't think it will disadvantage any SuperCoach Teams this season.
The second one is too exploitable for mine, has to be the lowest scoring bench player automatically which I think is the compromise.

I'm torn though, for mine loopholes are a genuine strategy (one I absolutely stink at and would happily see the back of!) and one of the few areas that actually reward effort in this game that is still far too luck based, I say that as someone pretty dedicated who has still lost thousands of points on loopholes over the past couple of seasons.

I do really like the idea of being able to modify the player traded in, that's actually a really good idea. So you lock in X and Y out but can change the Z that comes in if your original option doesn't get picked, a good adaption to these horrid 24 hour teams.

Personally I'd like to see three of the midfield slots converted into utility spots (2 field, 1 bench). They greatly alter the flexibility for trading, allow far more diverse starting sides and make avoiding major issues far easier to avoid. The reality is that in most seasons by the end they'll be filled by midfielders anyway but on the road to that point you've got the ability to cover holes.

For example if you had 3 defenders out, say Laird, Ridley and Houston this week were all to miss, you could use the utility slot to pick up Mansell and field him, while benching say Ridley in the utility slot, then next week when those 3 are back Mansell or another back rookie could move back to the utility bench and you can trade the rookie that makes the most sense out for Mansell. Just that bit more flexibility removes some of the luck elements.

Basically for mine every change should be basically assessed on "does it reward skill/effort?" and "does it reduce the luck aspect?", I think anything that does both is a really positive change.
 
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Trading in a later premium than Steele is the solution.

That way you hold both trades and can react more flexibly through the round.

FWIW I don’t mind the suggested adjustments to trades as described in principle but it is important to recognise that it is the habit of trading early that is worsening the ability of teams to react.
Trading in a non-preferred premium later in the round really isn’t a solution though, is it?

It’s a byproduct of the initial problem, which is that teams are announced the evening before each game day for a round spread over 4 days.

Personally I feel the Powers That Be, need to find a solution, rather than make it harder for people that want to play but don’t want to stay glued to their phones or social media all weekend.
 
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Trading in a non-preferred premium later in the round really isn’t a solution though, is it?

It’s a byproduct of the initial problem, which is that teams are announced the evening before each game day for a round spread over 4 days.

Personally I feel the Powers That Be, need to find a solution, rather than make it harder for people that want to play but don’t want to stay glued to their phones or social media all weekend.
The hard part is that SC organisers would be the people who most requested this kind of teams release given their monetisation is based on visits and clicks and this means even the casuals basically have to log-in multiple times per weekend.

They're really the only winners from the whole situation!
 
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The hard part is that SC organisers would be the people who most requested this kind of teams release given their monetisation is based on visits and clicks and this means even the casuals basically have to log-in multiple times per weekend.

They're really the only winners from the whole situation!
100% agree with that.

We need a trading bot to counteract the bastards.
 
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The second one is too exploitable for mine, has to be the lowest scoring bench player automatically which I think is the compromise.

I'm torn though, for mine loopholes are a genuine strategy (one I absolutely stink at and would happily see the back of!) and one of the few areas that actually reward effort in this game that is still far too luck based, I say that as someone pretty dedicated who has still lost thousands of points on loopholes over the past couple of seasons.

I do really like the idea of being able to modify the player traded in, that's actually a really good idea. So you lock in X and Y out but can change the Z that comes in if your original option doesn't get picked, a good adaption to these horrid 24 hour teams.

Personally I'd like to see three of the midfield slots converted into utility spots (2 field, 1 bench). They greatly alter the flexibility for trading, allow far more diverse starting sides and make avoiding major issues far easier to avoid. The reality is that in most seasons by the end they'll be filled by midfielders anyway but on the road to that point you've got the ability to cover holes.

For example if you had 3 defenders out, say Laird, Ridley and Houston this week were all to miss, you could use the utility slot to pick up Mansell and field him, while benching say Ridley in the utility slot, then next week when those 3 are back Mansell or another back rookie could move back to the utility bench and you can trade the rookie that makes the most sense out for Mansell. Just that bit more flexibility removes some of the luck elements.

Basically for mine every change should be basically assessed on "does it reward skill/effort?" and "does it reduce the luck aspect?", I think anything that does both is a really positive change.
Yeah, that sounds right what you said "Basically for mine every change should be basically assessed on "does it reward skill/effort?" and "does it reduce the luck aspect?", I think anything that does both is a really positive change."
So, any changes would have to be thought well through.

Just brain storming:

- I like how in Rd1, we were able to make any changes to our team until a player is locked. So, make all rounds the same, but still have the 2 trades per round and Byes 3 trades.

- All players to have dual positions, that way there will be more flexability to cover donuts. Key position players like a Tom Hawkins can be a 'Fwd/Ruc', players like a Darcy Moore a 'Def/Fwd' and other key position players add a 'Mid' to them.
 
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