Strategy Round 9: Trades

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Cheers Thanh

Appreciate the post.

Stubbornness is by biggest life fault (can be a strength).

Once I decided to start the all rookie ruck line I was all in (rightly or wrongly) and knew it had to be 6 rounds to see how it went (yes I got that wrong)

Certainly didn't expect Mumford to play as much as he had and be the # 1 ruck. (error judgement).

Was hoping Meek & Darcy could play together , uncertainty when Darcy was returning (another judgement error)

Opportunity was certainly their for Hunter given the situation with Ryder & Marshall , did not see the scenario where he would get dropped (another judgement error)

So yes I probably should have corrected before I did.

Still think Premium , Hickey / Flynn was the ideal starting line in the Rucks.

Once Dangerfield was injured I saw the opportunity to bring Heeney in , my views on him SC wise are well documented , certainly wasn't expecting him to get injured (so soon) and then trade him out.

Poor judgement , wasted injury trade.

Round 3 trading Scott out (think I admitted my mistake at the time and should have traded Hunter) again was poor , think Scott has nearly made $ 150k

Brought Jordon & Warner in , probably should have started them , probably went too heavy up forward.

Round 4

Cripps or Kelly

Kelly had 98 , 90 & 100 was lured into the thought of 115+.

Durability issues in the past , ok I need Impey & Ridley (crystal ball didn't tell me Ridley would be concussed and available for $ 500k)

Koschitze didn't look AFL standard , another poor judgement call (made $ 150k profit)

Round 5

To me Hickey looked to be the # 3 Ruck and offered massive value , injured that game and diagnosis was 6-8 weeks , so out he goes Round 6 (frustrating building at wasting trades)

Went early on L.Jones (injured)

Round 6

Hickey & Campbell - > Mansell & McCreery I think was mainly for bubble boys.

Eating donuts in the ruck.

Round 7

Dunkley

Decided ROB instead of Grundy as I actually thought ROB was a massive chance to get close to Grundy this season (another judgement error) , 3 x 100 games before I trade him in and 2 pathetic games since (also looked at McEvoy)

at this stage having massive concerns about generating enough cash to fund upgrades.

Was sick of ruck donuts so was keen on the Mumford/Flynn piggyback idea.

Round 8

Not alone in going May , was looking at Brayshaw then found Stringer's numbers , 3-4 scores over 80+ @ $ 325k in a season of Atkins , Hall , Hind , Impey , Walker , Ziebell etc surely he works as well.

Nope take a chance and he goes and get injured.

(Stringer was meant to be my fun trade)

Fantasia was a terrible starting pick (oh for Cumming or Jiath instead)

So yes from 60 in Round 1 , I am definitely skydiving without any chutes.

Stubbornness plays it part , 2-3 different choices of players who knows , bench not playing (like many) leads to poor cash generation.

Yes I would love to be bringing in $ 500k players when I upgrade , realistically that is not going to happen.

Accept my situation and hit "Delete Team" , trust me I am very close.

That's not in my make up though so will battle on and see what I can salvage.

17 Trades & $ 242,800.00 in the Bank

Mansell
Powell ✓ , Jordon ✓
Warner ✓ , Rowe

all are onfield at the moment and need to be fixed before even looking at "luxury" options of fixing May , Daniel , Cripps , O'Brien & Stringer.

Even looking at $ 500k players for upgrades I need to find $ 1,053,700.00

So what to do ?

Could very well be the last round for cheapies for awhile so :-

Berry - > Byrnes or Collier-Dawkins
McNeil/Rowe (both still with $$$ to make) or Warner - > Poulter

next round

Flynn - > Treacy

then just sit and milk every $$$ from rookies and then try and upgrade

Honestly I don't know , so if you have any short term suggestions that would be greatly appreciated.

Hope my reply makes some sense.

Too early for the BBL so I need to soldier on

Thanks again

Cheers

PS I think being 60th after Round 1 , the SC God's just set me up 😉

Nope my team , my ownership on decisions that have been massively wrong
Hard luck mate but hang in there - SC truly loves to kick you when you're down! I reckon there are many in a similar position (whether they want to admit it or not) but hopefully they can take something from your team being in the spotlight.

I'm hesitant to weigh in given there has been a few posts already, but potentially the byes could be represent a chance to make up some ground? If you can have 19-20+ in each week you'll get gains on a few as there is normally 1 bye round that slams everyone and they have 16-17 on field players only. Might cop some pain over the next few rounds as you reposition but might be a good launch pad for the back half of the year.

Going bye your avatar, Darcy Moore could be your saviour as a value backline player to get things rolling!

Either way, don't let it get you too down - we've all been staring down this barrel at one stage or another so you're in good company!
 
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Cheers Thanh

Appreciate the post.

Stubbornness is by biggest life fault (can be a strength).

Once I decided to start the all rookie ruck line I was all in (rightly or wrongly) and knew it had to be 6 rounds to see how it went (yes I got that wrong)

Certainly didn't expect Mumford to play as much as he had and be the # 1 ruck. (error judgement).

Was hoping Meek & Darcy could play together , uncertainty when Darcy was returning (another judgement error)

Opportunity was certainly their for Hunter given the situation with Ryder & Marshall , did not see the scenario where he would get dropped (another judgement error)

So yes I probably should have corrected before I did.

Still think Premium , Hickey / Flynn was the ideal starting line in the Rucks.

Once Dangerfield was injured I saw the opportunity to bring Heeney in , my views on him SC wise are well documented , certainly wasn't expecting him to get injured (so soon) and then trade him out.

Poor judgement , wasted injury trade.

Round 3 trading Scott out (think I admitted my mistake at the time and should have traded Hunter) again was poor , think Scott has nearly made $ 150k

Brought Jordon & Warner in , probably should have started them , probably went too heavy up forward.

Round 4

Cripps or Kelly

Kelly had 98 , 90 & 100 was lured into the thought of 115+.

Durability issues in the past , ok I need Impey & Ridley (crystal ball didn't tell me Ridley would be concussed and available for $ 500k)

Koschitze didn't look AFL standard , another poor judgement call (made $ 150k profit)

Round 5

To me Hickey looked to be the # 3 Ruck and offered massive value , injured that game and diagnosis was 6-8 weeks , so out he goes Round 6 (frustrating building at wasting trades)

Went early on L.Jones (injured)

Round 6

Hickey & Campbell - > Mansell & McCreery I think was mainly for bubble boys.

Eating donuts in the ruck.

Round 7

Dunkley

Decided ROB instead of Grundy as I actually thought ROB was a massive chance to get close to Grundy this season (another judgement error) , 3 x 100 games before I trade him in and 2 pathetic games since (also looked at McEvoy)

at this stage having massive concerns about generating enough cash to fund upgrades.

Was sick of ruck donuts so was keen on the Mumford/Flynn piggyback idea.

Round 8

Not alone in going May , was looking at Brayshaw then found Stringer's numbers , 3-4 scores over 80+ @ $ 325k in a season of Atkins , Hall , Hind , Impey , Walker , Ziebell etc surely he works as well.

Nope take a chance and he goes and get injured.

(Stringer was meant to be my fun trade)

Fantasia was a terrible starting pick (oh for Cumming or Jiath instead)

So yes from 60 in Round 1 , I am definitely skydiving without any chutes.

Stubbornness plays it part , 2-3 different choices of players who knows , bench not playing (like many) leads to poor cash generation.

Yes I would love to be bringing in $ 500k players when I upgrade , realistically that is not going to happen.

Accept my situation and hit "Delete Team" , trust me I am very close.

That's not in my make up though so will battle on and see what I can salvage.

17 Trades & $ 242,800.00 in the Bank

Mansell
Powell ✓ , Jordon ✓
Warner ✓ , Rowe

all are onfield at the moment and need to be fixed before even looking at "luxury" options of fixing May , Daniel , Cripps , O'Brien & Stringer.

Even looking at $ 500k players for upgrades I need to find $ 1,053,700.00

So what to do ?

Could very well be the last round for cheapies for awhile so :-

Berry - > Byrnes or Collier-Dawkins
McNeil/Rowe (both still with $$$ to make) or Warner - > Poulter

next round

Flynn - > Treacy

then just sit and milk every $$$ from rookies and then try and upgrade

Honestly I don't know , so if you have any short term suggestions that would be greatly appreciated.

Hope my reply makes some sense.

Too early for the BBL so I need to soldier on

Thanks again

Cheers

PS I think being 60th after Round 1 , the SC God's just set me up 😉

Nope my team , my ownership on decisions that have been massively wrong
Good on you Herbie for being you - your constant searching for alternatives is a valuable eye opener in what can often be an oh-so-cookie-cutter exercise in SC.

For perspective starting with rookie rucks and reaching for prospective picks isn't the only way a team can fall over - between some really poor starting choices (Eg. Phillips over Impey because I felt forced to use the cash), failing to dot the i's and cross the t's with weekly lineups / looping and zero luck with injuries I've been stuck in a low-scoring, donut-fielding rut with a number of heavily underperforming starters for weeks now and my team is wallowing down at the 40k mark which is probably where it will stay (if I'm lucky).

It's frustrating at hell when virtually everything you try seems to fall over, whether it be going with some real POD starters, following the pack with cookie-cutter selections / trades, or going a bit left-field with POD's, but I'm treating the rest of the season as a learning experience and will try to develop a bit more of a "gut-feel" for the game so I'm hopefully a bit better equipped next year.
 
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Feels like your read on this is a bit off.

Cotchin and Edwards have had 4-6 week injuries in back to back weeks. Lambert and Prestia both out for another 2-3 weeks.

RCD's JS couldn't be any better for a rookie at this point and RIchmond would very much benefit from him finding his feet and becoming a bit of an inside bull for them to help Cotchin out, so they have every reason to keep playing him even though he was a bit ordinary last week.
You could well be right, but I'm only judging what I saw with my own eyes on the weekend.
 
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Hard luck mate but hang in there - SC truly loves to kick you when you're down! I reckon there are many in a similar position (whether they want to admit it or not) but hopefully they can take something from your team being in the spotlight.

I'm hesitant to weigh in given there has been a few posts already, but potentially the byes could be represent a chance to make up some ground? If you can have 19-20+ in each week you'll get gains on a few as there is normally 1 bye round that slams everyone and they have 16-17 on field players only. Might cop some pain over the next few rounds as you reposition but might be a good launch pad for the back half of the year.

Going bye your avatar, Darcy Moore could be your saviour as a value backline player to get things rolling!

Either way, don't let it get you too down - we've all been staring down this barrel at one stage or another so you're in good company!
Funnily enough I mentioned Moore a few days ago as a value D6 (alongside Houston & Howe) worth monitoring their prices , but lo and behold Moore put himself in the spotlight this week for many.

Unfortunately I must resist , could be the last week in awhile to bring in some cheapies for $$$ so my next 3 trades will be squarely focused on that.

Get as much money as I can then look at possible upgrade options.

To be totally honest I have not even considered my bye structure (had 5 of my bench not playing and only one is worth trading out in any case)

Just have to clear my head for a few days and come up with the best course of action.
 
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Thinking about taking the 100k Tex has made (was 200k 2 weeks ago :cry: ) and keeping Powell for another rnd or 2 .
Tex's next 3 - EAgles, Dees & Tigers :eek:
Powells next 3 - Hawks, Bombers & Saints

Who becomes Mitchell :unsure:
 
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So, is anyone keeping the Texan ?
Is he playing with an injury or is it a case of other teams have worked out his style of play.

The gut says to trade him but it stu*** up my plans.
I'd be happy with 75's - 80's from him at the moment to focus on trades in other areas.
He started the season so well and now thrown in two absolute stinkers. Will it continue ?
SELL SELL SELL - cmon creeker you have milked this pig for more than it was worth. Off to the knackery and snack on some Texan Bacon mate.
 
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Good on you Herbie for being you - your constant searching for alternatives is a valuable eye opener in what can often be an oh-so-cookie-cutter exercise in SC.

For perspective starting with rookie rucks and reaching for prospective picks isn't the only way a team can fall over - between some really poor starting choices (Eg. Phillips over Impey because I felt forced to use the cash), failing to dot the i's and cross the t's with weekly lineups / looping and zero luck with injuries I've been stuck in a low-scoring, donut-fielding rut with a number of heavily underperforming starters for weeks now and my team is wallowing down at the 40k mark which is probably where it will stay (if I'm lucky).

It's frustrating at hell when virtually everything you try seems to fall over, whether it be going with some real POD starters, following the pack with cookie-cutter selections / trades, or going a bit left-field with POD's, but I'm treating the rest of the season as a learning experience and will try to develop a bit more of a "gut-feel" for the game so I'm hopefully a bit better equipped next year.
One day I should try this cookie cutter approach and see what is all about 😀

Still think the rookie ruck line was worth starting , I just should have been better at adjusting too it.

Oh well , just have to dust myself off , rethink some things and try and fix things as best I can

Keep trying

Cheers
 
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Tempted to go Clark Harmes as a cash gen stepping stone. Risky but if he can put 3-4 88+ games together makes 100k and trades up to lloyd/mills/Whitfield for final Def Prem. Fixes my def bench hole at same time.

Is it worth the additional trade.
 
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@Herbie66

Firstly, no more FUN trades...every trades from now on has to serve a purpose!
  • Replenishing cash generation Rookie is priority #1 so you have to grab Poulter/RCD/Byrnes this round
  • Hold onto Warner/Powell/Jordon for as long as viable
  • Trade with the MBRs in mind as that's your first avenue to resurrect your team progress
  • Forget about luxury trades as that's not a viable option under the circumstance
  • Target players that best fit where you're team is at not what the mainstream coaches are doing
  • Don't try to fix everything at once, rather focus on correcting one thing at a time and don't allow yourself to be distracted
  • Have some 'realistic' short term goals in place and set yourself the aim to check them off
You may not fix or address all the current issues (that's shouldn't be the objective) but at least you can create some pathways towards a few small wins for the remainder of the season.
Thanks for that.

Yes definitely have to use the next 3 trades to generate some cash so my options are really only (depending on team selections)

Berry , McNeil
Flynn (ideally after 1 more game)
Rowe or McCreery

Just need to take what I can get from them this round.

Cheers
 

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To be totally honest I have not even considered my bye structure (had 5 of my bench not playing and only one is worth trading out in any case)
Aren't you glad to have a SC guardian angel on your side...;)

After putting your team under the microscope, I've the following olive branch to offer...
  • Assuming Jones returns for R13 after the PTA bye round AND the following trades of Stringer & Berry > Poulter & RCD
Your current MBRs setup looks quite manageable (see below) with another 2 rounds of trades to finetune if needed. Your Rookie split across the MBRs are ideal for trading at their respective byes, hopefully into a value Keeper who're bye-free.

That would be my focus leading up to the MBRs and reassess after that.

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Tempted to go Clark Harmes as a cash gen stepping stone. Risky but if he can put 3-4 88+ games together makes 100k and trades up to lloyd/mills/Whitfield for final Def Prem. Fixes my def bench hole at same time.

Is it worth the additional trade.
Could certainly do what you're looking to achieve and work out well IMO.

31 possessions on the weekend and a BE of just 9.
 
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Aren't you glad to have a SC guardian angel on your side...;)

After putting your team under the microscope, I've the following olive branch to offer...
  • Assuming Jones returns for R13 after the PTA bye round AND the following trades of Stringer & Berry > Poulter & RCD
Your current MBRs setup looks quite manageable (see below) with another 2 rounds of trades to finetune if needed. Your Rookie split across the MBRs are ideal for trading at their respective byes, hopefully into a value Keeper who're bye-free.

That would be my focus leading up to the MBRs and reassess after that.

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Wow above and beyond

Bye bye Stringer (thanks for your service and 22 points)

Just looked on Footywire for some projections for Jordon , Powell & Warner so need to milk them as long as possible.

Hopefully Warner gets another spike game

Can't do much about D6 yet so just will accept that.

Hopefully something appears to be able to downgrade McCreery/McNeil to.
 
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With Howe now out for the season it looks like Keane has more JS going forward, but now I'd be a bit more worried about Moore being asked to play more of a lockdown role down back especially this week with Roughead out.
Do you know much about Wilson ?
 
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Just reading up on the commentary on your season so far @Herbie66. I too started Flynn, Meek, Hunter and Fullarton.

Made a resolution though that I wouldn't spin trades on rucks if it went pear shaped: it was Gawn and Grundy in or nothing.

When Hunter got dropped I 'corrected' him for Chapman. When Meek got dropped I raged out Daniel and Meek and brought in Gawn. When Dunkley went down I brought in Grundy.

Net result was that I paid no less than those starting Gawn + Grundy to bring them in and used trades to do it. So it hurt in an overall sense but I'm here now and the team looks ok.

But in another year I'd be game to go again - gotta try new things and have fun!
 
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