Position 2021: Ruck Discussion

Which ruck setup are you planning on starting with?

  • Gawn/Grundy/Flynn

    Votes: 82 47.4%
  • Gawn/Grundy/Meek

    Votes: 5 2.9%
  • Gawn/Grundy/Hunter

    Votes: 8 4.6%
  • Gawn/Flynn/Meek

    Votes: 25 14.5%
  • Gawn/Flynn/Hunter

    Votes: 11 6.4%
  • Gawn/Meek/Hunter

    Votes: 2 1.2%
  • Grundy/Flynn/Meek

    Votes: 14 8.1%
  • Grundy/Flynn/Hunter

    Votes: 9 5.2%
  • Grundy/Meek/Hunter

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 17 9.8%

  • Total voters
    173
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I'd say with other clubs it would be 50% he's back after the bye and 49% that it takes longer than predicted with a 1% chance he's back early.

Given it's the Pies and their recent efforts, I'd say it's 50% he's back after the bye, 25% they rush him back early, 20% they rush him back early and make it worse and 5% they take their time.

One factor with the Pies, as much as they're "rebuilding" they need to win as much as possible because they gave away their first rounder already and it just looks really bad if it's a top 2 pick so they need to win. Bucks also coaching for his career you'd think.

Realistically though, it's the kind of injury you'd think the 3 weeks post bye is the likely best case outcome.

I think other circumstances are going to force me into the trade. Grabbing NicNat allows me to get Steele instead of Bianco this week and opens the pathway to Danger and Lloyd/Mills for my final two upgrades left. Plus it feels like years since I've had NicNat and it's always an interesting ride.

One thing with NicNat is he has a very strong history of big scoring patches, basically every season he had 3 140+ scores they're basically all in a 6 week period. 2012 he had 164, 153 and 163 in a 5 week block. 2015 it was 152, 147, 146 and 130 in a 6 week block. Last year after playing himself into shape (like he has this year) he went 146, 153, 146 and 143 with 129 and 122 also in the final 8 weeks, was a 72 and a 98 to balance it out. The man can score.

Eagles midfield is also set to get a lot stronger over the next month with Yeo back, Shuey, Duggan and Hutchings all due back in the next few weeks and Kelly a couple of weeks after that. Having said that, in a weird way I like NicNat without midfielders more, last week after Kelly went down NicNat started taking it out of the ruck consistently and it was absolute gold as he gets the contested clearance and almost always just bangs it 40m down the line to a contest (which Eagles forwards give), meaning effective kick on top.

I'm mostly trying to sell him to myself :LOL:
I’m almost out and you pull me back in😁.

Still believe over the byes will only make an extra 100-200 points, but the unknown date of a Grundy return may sway me to NN, plus have a few extra trades up my sleeve and worried CD are going to give extra trades if they change the byes.

Does anybody know if NicNat TOG is improving?
 
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Last year after playing himself into shape (like he has this year) he went 146, 153, 146 and 143 with 129 and 122 also in the final 8 weeks, was a 72 and a 98 to balance it out. The man can score.
I got him right before that run. One of the best trades I've ever done. (There haven't been many btw.)
 
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It looks like the only way I can avoid a donut (or two) through the byes is to trade Grundy. All aboard the Nic Nat train.
Yep, have thought about this for a few days, think it's time to pull the trigger.
Was all set for no trades this week, Damm you wogitalia. :) You put together a very persuasive post.
 
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Yep, have thought about this for a few days, think it's time to pull the trigger.
Was all set for no trades this week, Damm you wogitalia. :) You put together a very persuasive post.
Make sure he fits if the bye changes as well though :)

I'm on this disaster path with you if you take it!
 
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Out of the loop this week. My extra word on Grundy. Very annoying. If we wait to see and he isn’t right, all the targets increase in price plus lost points 😒
 
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First half of the season (Round 1 - 11l

Top 10 on Aggregate

Gawn 1383 (Ave 125.72)
Grundy 1341 (Ave 121.91)
Naitanui 1231 (Ave 111.91)
Darcy 1064 (Ave 106.4) - 10 games
Goldstein 1033 (Ave 93.90)
Nankervis 1018 (Ave 92.54)
O'Brien 1006 (Ave 91.45)
Hickey 930 (Ave 103.33) - 9 games
Pittonet 925 (Ave 84.09)
McEvoy 924 (Ave 84.00)
 
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Third block of 6 complete

Gawn

Round 1-6 141.16 from 6 games
Round 7-12 112.33 from 6 games
Round 13-18 104.6 from 5 games

Total 120.23 from 17
 
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Top 11 on Average

Gawn 120.8
Darcy 118 (21)
Naitanui 115.3
Grundy 115.2 (20)
Hickey 103.2 (20)
Goldstein 100.8
Strachan 100.5 (2)
Marshall 98.6 (13)
O'Brien 95.7 (20)
Lycett 94.2 (16)

11. McInerney 93.6 (21)

So after 23 rounds , and despite the emergence of Jackson , Gawn remains the King

Given we probably don't want to trade out premium Rucks unless injured , the ideal starting Rucks for 2021 would have been :-

Gawn , NAITANUI (Flynn)

although personally an argument can be made for starting Hickey 😀

Let the discussion's begin for 2022 , to Darcy or not
 
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