Discussion 2022: Rate My Team
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J Lloyd, J Ridley, J Short, K Coleman, G McDonagh, C Dean.
(W Gould, B Uwland.)
J Macrae, J Steele, T Mitchell, S Walsh, L Neale, M Rowell, C Constable, N Daicos.
(M Roberts, G Clark, R McComb.)
S Darcy, J Witts. (C Comben.)
I Heeney, Z Butters, J Gresham, C Rayner, S Coniglio, C Curnow.
(E Hollands, C Parker.)
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Having issues with D4, M4, and F4. With $1.185,200 to spend, I'm trying to come up with a better combo than Coleman, Walsh and Rayner.
(W Gould, B Uwland.)
J Macrae, J Steele, T Mitchell, S Walsh, L Neale, M Rowell, C Constable, N Daicos.
(M Roberts, G Clark, R McComb.)
S Darcy, J Witts. (C Comben.)
I Heeney, Z Butters, J Gresham, C Rayner, S Coniglio, C Curnow.
(E Hollands, C Parker.)
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Having issues with D4, M4, and F4. With $1.185,200 to spend, I'm trying to come up with a better combo than Coleman, Walsh and Rayner.
1st attempt
T Stewart, L Whitfield, J Sicily, L Aleer, J Van Rooyen, G McDonagh (W Gould, C Dean)
J Macrae, J Steele, C Oliver, A Brayshaw, L Neale, J Horne-Francis, N Daicos, J Sinn (Z Taylor, G Clark, C Parker)
M Gawn, R Marshall (J Williams)
J Dunkley, M Duncan, Z Butters, S Coniglio, C Curnow, J Motlop (J Rachele, E Hollands)
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T Stewart, L Whitfield, J Sicily, L Aleer, J Van Rooyen, G McDonagh (W Gould, C Dean)
J Macrae, J Steele, C Oliver, A Brayshaw, L Neale, J Horne-Francis, N Daicos, J Sinn (Z Taylor, G Clark, C Parker)
M Gawn, R Marshall (J Williams)
J Dunkley, M Duncan, Z Butters, S Coniglio, C Curnow, J Motlop (J Rachele, E Hollands)
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For sure, I went 13-0-17 last year, didn't work but that was probably because I started an all rookie ruckline. Even so, I had real problems finding enough rookies, particularly on the bench, felt like I was scraping the bottom of the barrel trying to fill those last 5-6 rookie spots.
So this year looking at:
DEF: 3-2-1
MID: 5-0-3
RUC: 0-2-0
FWD: 4-1-1
So this year looking at:
DEF: 3-2-1
MID: 5-0-3
RUC: 0-2-0
FWD: 4-1-1
A current iteration...
Was a bit more mid-pricey but have swung back to 13 premiums and mostly "rookies" (if you count Butters and English as FWD prems). There's fat to play with in Berry/Curnow types if the cash is needed for rookies or D5.
I call this setup "Preuss ready", because he can slot in at R2 by juggling out any mid or forward rookie
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I am certainly no expert on rookies , have about 25-40 written down on a piece of paper that I have seen mentioned here and other sites.
Whether any/all will play Round 1 absolutely no idea.
One advantage I guess of using a lot of $ 200-300k players in RMT in January is it is then easier to adjust downwards to rookies once they are confirmed to play Round 1.
I do like the look of the 2 or 3 - 4 - 2 - 2 starting structure at this early stage , could easily go 0-6-2 up forward as well by the looks of things.
Whether any/all will play Round 1 absolutely no idea.
One advantage I guess of using a lot of $ 200-300k players in RMT in January is it is then easier to adjust downwards to rookies once they are confirmed to play Round 1.
I do like the look of the 2 or 3 - 4 - 2 - 2 starting structure at this early stage , could easily go 0-6-2 up forward as well by the looks of things.
I guess it comes down to who may or may not get assigned F status when they do the first lot of DPP assignments.
Like I said earlier the Top 6 forwards for the year might not even have F status at the moment
Would want to be 110% sure that Bailey , Butters , De Goey , Graham , Heeney , Thomas etc etc are guaranteed of taking that next step and being Top 6-8 forwards.
Even without the added F status (if they stay on the park) Duncan , Dunkley , Hawkins , Martin & Taranto are probably filling 5 places so not much room for the others.
I will probably debate Dunkley & Duncan v De Goey & Heeney for the next 49 days , don't mind Gresham , Coniglio & Curnow at F3-5.
Not keen on Rayner , unsure on Brodie or W Rioli , Coleman & D Rioli are definitely in my plans whether or not I start then D or F.
Seen McGovern's name mentioned , haven't had a good look at other possibilities yet.
Bowey & Campbell are of some interest in D at similar price range.
de Koning , Kelly , Skinner possibly open up the D/F link but might even be better as rookie downgrade targets.
My brain keeps switching between cricket and football at the moment so not yet 100% switched into AFL SC mode
Like I said earlier the Top 6 forwards for the year might not even have F status at the moment
Would want to be 110% sure that Bailey , Butters , De Goey , Graham , Heeney , Thomas etc etc are guaranteed of taking that next step and being Top 6-8 forwards.
Even without the added F status (if they stay on the park) Duncan , Dunkley , Hawkins , Martin & Taranto are probably filling 5 places so not much room for the others.
I will probably debate Dunkley & Duncan v De Goey & Heeney for the next 49 days , don't mind Gresham , Coniglio & Curnow at F3-5.
Not keen on Rayner , unsure on Brodie or W Rioli , Coleman & D Rioli are definitely in my plans whether or not I start then D or F.
Seen McGovern's name mentioned , haven't had a good look at other possibilities yet.
Bowey & Campbell are of some interest in D at similar price range.
de Koning , Kelly , Skinner possibly open up the D/F link but might even be better as rookie downgrade targets.
My brain keeps switching between cricket and football at the moment so not yet 100% switched into AFL SC mode
I'm having a bit of trouble with the DEF line so starting Rioli and Coleman at F4 & F5, particularly if 1 or 2 of De Koning, Kelly or Skinner are named rnd 1 adds that bit of security covering potential outs.
I reckon it's worthwhile taking a punt on those value FWD's, with the DPP changes at rnd 6 and more importantly rnd 12 (coming into the byes) there's considerable opportunity to slingshot to those guys that gain FWD status particularly with the extra 5 trades. If you needed to you could have 12 trades to use over those 3 rnds.
There's ?? on how Dunkley, Duncan, Hawkins, Martin and Taranto go, so I'm willing to start 1 of them and see how the others perform.
I reckon it's worthwhile taking a punt on those value FWD's, with the DPP changes at rnd 6 and more importantly rnd 12 (coming into the byes) there's considerable opportunity to slingshot to those guys that gain FWD status particularly with the extra 5 trades. If you needed to you could have 12 trades to use over those 3 rnds.
There's ?? on how Dunkley, Duncan, Hawkins, Martin and Taranto go, so I'm willing to start 1 of them and see how the others perform.
The third iteration of my lineup.
I feel this version is a fair bit more balanced than the others. Starting with the backline, I've swapped out Crisp, Whitfield & Sinn for Hall, Hewett & Coleman. Hall's last half of 2021 is ignorable (he's undervalued) whereas I felt Crisp is probably priced to his maximum at present. Whitfield changes place with Hewett (who should be more durable) and I'm hoping that Hewett's role at Carlton is SC conducive like the way he finished off 2021 too with the Swans. Having Coleman at D5 gives me comfort as he can easily be swapped into a forward role if the defender rookies present themselves and forward rooks don't show. I must admit I didn't see too much of his end to last year & that I'm going off the guidance of others around here.
The midfield hasn't changed too much, although Mitchell Walsh & Dunks have been swapped out for Miller, Tracc & Brayshaw. I've also added Jye Caldwell to M6 as I feel that if he can get an injury uninterrupted run he presents great value at 266k. In saying this, if another gun rookie mid I've left out stamps themselves during the preseason matches then he's an easy downgrade & frees up some more cash. Tracc & Brayshaw both feel like value for me as I see them improving on last year's averages although I don't think either are topliners in terms of season's best mids. The only injury risk on this line is Caldwell I feel. Neale I'm trusting to be good to go by Round 1 after last year's debacle.
Now to the forwards. English, De Goey & Gresham make way for Heeney, Butters & Willie Rioli. Rather than relying on English as ruck coverage, I'll have to see how Marshall goes at earning a DPP to cover both Darcy & McInerny. Butters replaces Gresham as the injury risk along the forward line and I think that Willie Rioli is a forgotten gem along the east coast. West Coast is mooted to be introducing a game plan that moves the ball faster forward & I think that he'll be a great beneficiary of the change. I've no concerns over his fitness & body as he's a naturally fit human and come back looking in good nick. There's a stat somewhere that he covered the second most k's of any Eagle in their GF win. In any sense, I think he's worth considering. I'm betting on Heeney, Butters & Conigs (if he lasts, or any of em for that matter) filling in F4, F5 & F6 come season's end.
Realistically, this side needs 10 players upgraded (3-3-1-3) although the midpriced players I'm banking on needing upgrading are Hewett, Coleman, Caldwell, McInerny & Rioli. All should score well enough in the interim. There's not much money left over to upgrade to better rookies so that may pinch come Round 1, but I feel the balance of what I have here is pretty good. Going light in the forward line gives me the chance to have a look at which players may get a change of position and be worth pursuing up forward.
I guess this is a very midpriced team as there are only 5 rookies starting on the field. I like it & think it'll stack up.
We think about players quite similarly, and my first draft is eerily similar. I have one deeper in the mids, one less in the forwards. Also my mid premos go Macrae/Steele/Walsh/Petracca/Neale - but you can basically throw a blanket over most these guys, I'm not particularly wedded to any of them except Neale and Steele..... (e.g. swap in Oliver, Miller, Bont, Titch etc, and you don't upset the apple cart).
Also have Crisp & Ridley over Hall & Lloyd but again could go either way there.
The only thing that really surprises me is the forwards..... (I have Tarryn Thomas at F3. Will ruminate over Thomas v Heeney).
I'm of the opinion that Dunkley and Duncan are two of the easiest starting picks this year. There's not a forward on the list that can score like Dunkley. He's a realistic 120+ player and can legitimately burn non-starters in a way that not many can. Priced at 102, that's money for old rope.
And and Duncan to me is just a no-brainer. I suspect he'll play a lot of that quarterback role this year. He's the best kick at Geelong, they'll be shifting the ball into his hands as much as possible to play that distributor role, and I don't buy into the durability concerns. Sign me up for 21 @ 108
Also have Crisp & Ridley over Hall & Lloyd but again could go either way there.
The only thing that really surprises me is the forwards..... (I have Tarryn Thomas at F3. Will ruminate over Thomas v Heeney).
I'm of the opinion that Dunkley and Duncan are two of the easiest starting picks this year. There's not a forward on the list that can score like Dunkley. He's a realistic 120+ player and can legitimately burn non-starters in a way that not many can. Priced at 102, that's money for old rope.
And and Duncan to me is just a no-brainer. I suspect he'll play a lot of that quarterback role this year. He's the best kick at Geelong, they'll be shifting the ball into his hands as much as possible to play that distributor role, and I don't buy into the durability concerns. Sign me up for 21 @ 108
I think the burn factor of Dunkley is the reason he's in my team at F1.
In all of SC currently there are only a handful of players (10 maybe?) that have ever played a full season and averaged 115+ or look like they might be able to do it this year.
One of those is 25 years old and available as a forward. If he goes bang it's going be fun lining him up as a POD against the likes of De Goey every week
In all of SC currently there are only a handful of players (10 maybe?) that have ever played a full season and averaged 115+ or look like they might be able to do it this year.
One of those is 25 years old and available as a forward. If he goes bang it's going be fun lining him up as a POD against the likes of De Goey every week
With Dunkley I don't think I'll select him. He's one of my favourite players, unfortunately, the coach has a lot to say about his role. Was on fire rounds 1-6 averaging 129 last year. I brought him in round 18 for an 87, then went DNP, 65, 75. Then in finals 61 and 66. If he plays on ball, then he does have a high average. Playing on ball in patches and up forward, not so much. He doesn't seem to be totally comfortable in the forward line, that it doesn't come naturally to him.