Discussion 2022: Rate My Team

[Meltingpot38]

Reason for no Cripps?

Seems like a 50-50 chance at worst for Cripps to be a serviceable M8 in that 105 - 110 average range, which means you will be down 150k from round 1.

Feel like it's a low % play not to start Cripps imo. FWIW I hate the pick but there's just too much downside not to start with him.

Yeah I'm starting to think the same. I was worried about Cripps/Rowell/Berry but currently have all 3, at the expense of Steele and a non existent $123k rookie, as doesn't seem to be any that will play or have any JS.

Pure GnR just doesn't seem very possible this year, nailing mid pricers will really give you a leg up, and so many viable ones this year.

 

[Hondo]

The 200k types in the fwd line have made it hard to get to 13 'prems' even counting Rowell (who is barely good enough to scrape a prem's boots based on stats), unless you really go hard on the close to mid price picks.

I think you have to work on the basis of Cogs and Rowell being premiums in which case you can get 14 + Berry/Brodie/Xerri types edging up the numbers to end up with “only” 5 true rookies on field.

 

[Socrates2]

Reason for no Cripps?

Seems like a 50-50 chance at worst for Cripps to be a serviceable M8 in that 105 - 110 average range, which means you will be down 150k from round 1.

Feel like it's a low % play not to start Cripps imo. FWIW I hate the pick but there's just too much downside not to start with him.

He's only been a top 8 mid once in 7 or 8 years, that's the knock on him.

 

[Zim^zuM]

He's only been a top 8 mid once in 7 or 8 years, that's the knock on him.

I don’t think you pick him as a top 8, you’re picking him because you think he will outscore his price by a bit.

 

[rumeboy]

I'd say Gibcus has similar scoring potential to Butts last year who made 160k from the same starting price. Cox made 125k from similar starting point. Lever way back in the day I think is the most direct comparison and would have made 150k from the same starting point (made 170k). He intercepts and he is very adept at finding space in a backline that does move slow sometimes. He's also a very handy ball user so should be rewarded for effective disposals regularly.

I don't think you would want to field him without a loophole and I do have genuine concerns on his JS in a team going for a flag, I expect he starts and gets a couple of games but if other teams are isolating him and exposing him, which is a very likely tactic and a possible outcome, then he could go out very quickly.

I'd also really like to see him named with all of Broad, Grimes, Tarrant and Vlastuin and Balta up forward as that would mean that he's genuinely in the team and not just holding a spot for a Grimes/Vlastuin.

SDK I think will score fine from his price, could even make 200k. He attacks the ball in the air and goes for marks which is always a strong start and the Cats love to **** around in the defensive 50 so will get cheapies. Not going to be consistent, assuming he even plays, but I'm not remotely worried about him making cash if he's picked in the best 22, my worry with him is they go Henry, Blicavs and Kolo as the talls and play a little undersized instead of having Kolo as the 4th tall and being a bit oversized, it's an awkward balance but Henry, Blicavs and SDK are all exceptionally athletic talls so that helps cover for Kolo being a bit of a plodder for a 4th tall.

The Tigers have already come out and said that Gibcus is in their plan for the majority of the season so I think he's a safe pick with excellent JS. His SP is a worry, but if he only averages 60 then he'll still make 150k. 65 = 180k. We're really looking for players who will play 7-8 games to make their coin then use as a stepping stone to a premium defender. SDK unsure on his JS or whether he plays R1. McCartin is a very good pick, SP is much better than Gibcus and JS looks pretty decent. Hinge has probably the best SP but has had an injury ladden pre-season.

The fact is that the defense line has little to no players, so starting them is a necessity I think.

 

[PC]

I think you have to work on the basis of Cogs and Rowell being premiums in which case you can get 14 + Berry/Brodie/Xerri types edging up the numbers to end up with “only” 5 true rookies on field.

Yes, I was ignoring Cogs mainly because everyone (should) has him. For me, Cogs is a fallen prem, Rowell is the essence of a speculative mid pricer. At least you know his probable role and where he went in the draft?

Disclaimer - happy to eat humble pie if he works out this season, the Suns need more stars.

 

[Hondo]

Yes, I was ignoring Cogs mainly because everyone (should) has him. For me, Cogs is a fallen prem, Rowell is the essence of a speculative mid pricer. At least you know his probable role and where he went in the draft?

Disclaimer - happy to eat humble pie if he works out this season, the Suns need more stars.

Given Cogs’ recent injury history i think he and Rowell are equally speculative if that’s the right word. I think everyone should have both and most serious teams will surely. That’s why Rowell’s “risk “ is more about not having him than him not working out.

I think Berry could be the one to fade. But I have all 3.

 

[aj74]

Over lunch, I have been tinkering with my side - see if I could reduce the risk.

Old team :-

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Revised team :-

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In the revised team, I have dropped :-

Lloyd/Hinge/Sinn/Cripps/Stephens/W Kelly

for

Ridley/Sicily/Gibcus/Soligo/McGovern/Durdin

Rachele from fwd line starter to mid bench, Ward onto the field.

Whist Cripps did look great, just wondering if would be wiser to take another premium defender/seems a waste having Ward on the bench.

Would really appreciate views on this

Hey man. Not sure that you've really reduced your risk so much.

You're still rocking Whitfield, Rowell, Dunkley, Cogs and McGovern, all of whom have missed decent chunks of multiple seasons to injury in the last few years. You've got Sicily coming back off an ACL and Butters with his bung shoulders and careless attack on the contest while there are role/JS queries on Xerri, Brodie and you might even say Berry, depending on how much time Zorko and Rayner spend back in the middle once the fun starts. Of the back rookies, well they are all KPDs, if I'm right and that's SC poison. Gibcus has JS queries and isn't likely to go much over 50PPG when he plays, SDK plays under Chris Scott and probably won't score well in the 2 games he's picked as anything other than a sub and we're expected to trust that Paddy McCartin won't suffer another concussion when the blood rushes to his head as he ties his boots. Soligo is 50/50 at best, MacDonald is also touch and go for getting picked (both are 117k and you say that money is tight), Hayes is behind Ryder and Marshall in the ruck and behind Ryder, Marshall, King and Membrey up forward. Durdin is an injured small forward and Martin is about 4th in line for a wing spot.

But other than that, it's golden

Aaaahhhh Supercoach..... Remind me why we do this again?

 

[RIAL]

He's only been a top 8 mid once in 7 or 8 years, that's the knock on him.

Which of 119 (2018) and 117 (2019) wasn't a top 8 season?

Regardless, in the last 4 years he has gone 117+ twice. If he gets anywhere close to that and you don't have him it's close to season over given his high ownership status.

 

[Herbie66]

Think final sides/structures will come down to D4-D8.

* 3 premium defenders seems common

* Macrae , Neale , Cripps , Rowell , Berry , JHF , Daicos seems the cookie cutter midfield + either another ultra mid or trust Ward onfield

* 2 premium rucks is achievable

* Dunkley + a surplus of $ 200-300k options , or try and fit Butters & Heeney price types in as well

Getting close to the mad scramble when teams are announced and we suddenly have a dozen players in our starting team that we never really wanted 😀

 

[AryaBosses]

would appreciate some feedback on my team, I've gone with a 3-4-2-2 structure

 

[Herbie66]

would appreciate some feedback on my team, I've gone with a 3-4-2-2 structure
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Onfield looks fine , next few days will determine your bench and then work out how to adjust it.

 

[AryaBosses]

Onfield looks fine , next few days will determine your bench and then work out how to adjust it.

do you recommend me downgrading miller to rowell and upgrading someone else?

 

[BomberSam]

Really scary to only start 3 deep in the midfield. Also scary to start 5 deep in defence. But if we are designing our teams around the likely rookies we have and those we can trust on field, this could be the structure

 

[Herbie66]

do you recommend me downgrading miller to rowell and upgrading someone else?

I am certainly not a good enough player at this to recommend things to people.

Cripps & Rowell offer "value" in the mids when you need $$$ to fix your rookies.

Based on countless reading of this thread and others you could have 4-6 of your bench not named Round 1 , but until teams are confirmed we are all pretty much guessing and speculating on rookies in any case.

 

[Socrates2]

Which of 119 (2018) and 117 (2019) wasn't a top 8 season?

Regardless, in the last 4 years he has gone 117+ twice. If he gets anywhere close to that and you don't have him it's close to season over given his high ownership status.

Sorry 2 out of 8 years it is. He has only played one full season though and only went over 100 twice last season.
With Walsh out he will also be tagged more.

 

[inwhiterooms]

I think you have to work on the basis of Cogs and Rowell being premiums in which case you can get 14 + Berry/Brodie/Xerri types edging up the numbers to end up with “only” 5 true rookies on field.

Damn, how are you getting the 14th? Guessing you have Neale M2 Cripps M3 rather than a second uber?

 

[RIAL]

Sorry 2 out of 8 years it is. He has only played one full season though and only went over 100 twice last season.
With Walsh out he will also be tagged more.

Cripps has been tagged throughout his entire career. He got tagged less last year than he did in the 117 & 119 seasons.

He is literally the definition of a fallen premium, and he's not even that old yet.

 

[Meltingpot38]

Damn, how are you getting the 14th? Guessing you have Neale M2 Cripps M3 rather than a second uber?

I have 14 premiums if you count Cogs, Rowell and Cripps as premiums.

Short/Whitfield/Sicily
Macrae/Miller/Neale/Cripps/Rowell
Grawndy
Dunks/Heeney/Butters/Cogs

 

[Herbie66]

I have 14 premiums if you count Cogs, Rowell and Cripps as premiums.

Short/Whitfield/Sicily
Macrae/Miller/Neale/Cripps/Rowell
Grawndy
Dunks/Heeney/Butters/Cogs

Interesting I have 13 (no Miller) , Darcy instead of Gawn.

Curious who your D4 & D5 are (I currently have Blakey & Chapman awaiting the rookies)

Still have a expensive bench , but not sure I can get that 2nd ultra premium mid to start though.