Position 2023: Forwards Discussion

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Something like this? Swapped Butters from the mids. I won't go with this because there are are potentially too many value buys and DPP's over the year.

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Yeah, pretty close to that. F1-5 could easily average 100+. 2022, even including DPP additions mid season, there were only ~7 above 100, and only really Bont would have hurt you by missing out.
Start Dunks as well and you're set.
Where the rookies fall is important though.
 
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I'm the opposite, the more cheapies pop up the less premiums, I'm almost certain the mids is where I want to premium hunt the most this year.

I really like Dunkley, Coniglio, Taranto and Rozee. I honestly haven't gone past those as the 4 I'd pick.

Zorko, Greene and Fyfe are really the other 3 names I'm looking at, it doesn't help that I basically keep falling into Cameron in the rucks so the more premiums I start forward the less I can target DPP guys, value or breakouts on the line.

One of my big mistakes last year, although kind of unavoidable given what Coniglio and Brodie did, was actually having too many premium forwards at the start which basically shut me out of Cameron, Bont, Smith, Libba and Parker as exceptional value plays when they popped up. Brodie and Coniglio basically bailed me out but that's more luck than good management and this year I'm not going to underrate how impactful having those DPP guys is.

This year I see Treloar, Gawn/Grundy, Bont, Parker, Treloar, Boak and B. Smith all as very strong chances to get FWD this year in the DPP changes. Marshall and maybe even Darcy also have to be considered. All those guys have top 2 potential.

Makes this the hardest position because I really love Rozee as a pick, think Taranto is an easy winner and Coniglio and Dunkley both have serious upside potential at their prices, they're both fully capable of pushing 120, it's not very often that you look at the top two carry over premiums and see 10-15 points of upside.

And then there's Fyfe and even Thomas that are stupidly cheap for genuine premium bets...

It's not often that abundance is the problem!
 
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Any Hawthorn supporters (or others in the know) able to shed some light on Dylan Moores likely role this season, in particular in regards to cbas?

Doing some player analysis I found he had over 50% cbas in 4 games last year (those 4 games coming in the last 7 rounds) and he averaged 118.25 in those 4 games.

4 games is a small sample size but they are impressive numbers. If those cba numbers will be more his norm he is very tempting at 3% selected
 
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Any Hawthorn supporters (or others in the know) able to shed some light on Dylan Moores likely role this season, in particular in regards to cbas?

Doing some player analysis I found he had over 50% cbas in 4 games last year (those 4 games coming in the last 7 rounds) and he averaged 118.25 in those 4 games.

4 games is a small sample size but they are impressive numbers. If those cba numbers will be more his norm he is very tempting at 3% selected
Moore is an interesting one. Looks like he got more cba's after their bye, coinciding with Worpel not playing. Although they are different type of players. Also those handful of games included Crows, North and Eagles.
 
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Any Hawthorn supporters (or others in the know) able to shed some light on Dylan Moores likely role this season, in particular in regards to cbas?

Doing some player analysis I found he had over 50% cbas in 4 games last year (those 4 games coming in the last 7 rounds) and he averaged 118.25 in those 4 games.

4 games is a small sample size but they are impressive numbers. If those cba numbers will be more his norm he is very tempting at 3% selected
I don't know.

I've been a fan of him for a few years now. Quality player who showed promise when given opportunity, and only starting to get noticed by fans of other clubs. Wouldn't be surprised to see him step up again if he gets the right role. Hard to believe he was almost delisted under Clarko.

Expecting a half forward role myself. Hawks have a lot of potential mid field options (despite what SC says, there are more than 12 potential mid field options), and probably not as many forward, especially with Lewis injured.

Looks like the Hawks have done some recruiting though, so depending where these three line up, things could change:

View: https://mobile.twitter.com/HawthornFC/status/1618086254020644865


(I had no idea who these people were, I think they are WWE wrestlers)
 
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Any Hawthorn supporters (or others in the know) able to shed some light on Dylan Moores likely role this season, in particular in regards to cbas?

Doing some player analysis I found he had over 50% cbas in 4 games last year (those 4 games coming in the last 7 rounds) and he averaged 118.25 in those 4 games.

4 games is a small sample size but they are impressive numbers. If those cba numbers will be more his norm he is very tempting at 3% selected
I dont think the Hawks can afford to take 25 goals out of their forward line right now, between Stephens,Macdonald,Ward,Worpel,Newcombe,Day,Mackenzie and Maginness they should have the midfield covered, severe lack of experience granted.

More I look at that midfield the more I want to pick Sicily haha, balls going to live in their back half.
 
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Providing his body holds up Bruce as a forward but really a defender might mean some decent scores....
 
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Providing his body holds up Bruce as a forward but really a defender might mean some decent scores....
I have real question marks that he will be in the 22 round 1 - Jones/Keath/Gardner ( yes limited, but did finish 7th in the dogs B&F last year so clearly rated by the coaches)/Darcy all training with the backs. All of a sudden the dogs have much competition in the tall defender stocks.
 
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I have real question marks that he will be in the 22 round 1 - Jones/Keath/Gardner ( yes limited, but did finish 7th in the dogs B&F last year so clearly rated by the coaches)/Darcy all training with the backs. All of a sudden the dogs have much competition in the tall defender stocks.
The top forward lines have made the Dogs look silly for years, I think as long as hes fit hell be in the back 6, Keath was woeful last year and Gardner is a battler thats exposed by a genuine power forward, has to be a good chance they go Jones/Bruce/Darcy.
 
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I have real question marks that he will be in the 22 round 1 - Jones/Keath/Gardner ( yes limited, but did finish 7th in the dogs B&F last year so clearly rated by the coaches)/Darcy all training with the backs. All of a sudden the dogs have much competition in the tall defender stocks.
True, but you know someone will get injured.
 
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With TT a possible no go this season Ziebell (Fwd) is a possibility to start in the backfield. Can he repeat his 2021 season as a defender when he went 21 games for a 108 ave. Cost a 100k more this season but still could be an interesting watch. Pretty ordinary playing forward last season although his best two scores were in rounds 1 and 2 when he played as a defender before the move forward.
 
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With TT a possible no go this season Ziebell (Fwd) is a possibility to start in the backfield. Can he repeat his 2021 season as a defender when he went 21 games for a 108 ave. Cost a 100k more this season but still could be an interesting watch. Pretty ordinary playing forward last season although his best two scores were in rounds 1 and 2 when he played as a defender before the move forward.
Snuck into F4 last week. Will only remain if he is playing defence with Hall/McDonald/Logue types in the practice games.

He went around 100 average when Hall and Mcdonald were playing alongside him that year.

If he does play that role again he can be a lock for dual position.
 
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