Discussion 2023: Rate My Team

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Does it open doors for Fergus Greene?
I would not be surprised if they gave Koschitzke a shot at CHF. Last year he came off shoulder surgery in the pre season. A second year player first game back they put him in the Fwd line then sent him into the ruck. That happened again later on in another game and then against GC they made him first ruck against Witts! A good pre season and a bit of confidence and he might be the one.
 
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Not much, with the Lewis injury, I'm thinking it's opened an opportunity whether it draws another defender forward and he gets a defender role, or they slot him forward. Waiting for that practice match. Gunston gone as well.

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Hawthorn is still waiting to see how Mitch Lewis' knee settles across the next week after the budding key forward sprained his anterior cruciate ligament in match simulation last week. The incident was so innocuous the club struggled to identify the moment when going through the tape, but the scans ruled out a rupture last Wednesday.

The 24-year-old has been ruled out of round one at this stage, with the club optimistic he will miss a month at the most

A timeline will become clearer when the Hawks return from a four-day break, but Lewis has demonstrated positive early signs in his recovery and is expected to start running on the Alter-G treadmill next week.
https://www.afl.com.au/news/874245/...-fitness-as-fight-for-midfield-spots-heats-up
 
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Looking at other teams on here I feel as though mine is very vanilla, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

Although I’d love to have Hayden Young (who may take Daicos’ spot) in my team I’m pretty set on going lighter down back this year.

Hopper and Yeo are the only mid-pricers that I like at this early stage of planning.

Really love the look of having 5 Uber premiums in the midfield while managing to have a lot of higher priced rookies that will likely get games.

Happy to get any advice/thoughts from people and look forward to another good year.
 

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After a fair bit of tinkering this is where my team is currently sitting
A couple lower-mid pricers could be swapped depending on how the rest of preseason goes, mainly F4 and M6/D4, but every premo is just about locked in barring any injuries/setbacks. R3 will be filled by whichever cheap rookies plays or at least looks a chance to play early, or Madden if none look likely

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In 2012 Cox (30yo, $662.6k) went 112.3 from 22 games. Naitanui (21yo, $508.8k) went 114.2 from 20 games.

The two games Naitanui missed were Rds 6 and 7 with hamstring tightness (he was named for Rd 6 but was a late out).

He carried a groin complaint through the tail end of the season during which period he posted 3 of his top 4 highest scores of the season (164, 163, 153). After West Coast were knocked out in the semis he had groin surgery.

In terms of structure, one would be named in the ruck and the other in a forward pocket alongside JJK or on the bench. JJK did his ankle in Round 5, so thereafter FF and CHF were shared between Lynch and Darling with Cox/Naitanui resting in the pocket.

1062 hitouts and 48 goals 26 between them. West Coast finished 5th with 15 wins. They went alright in the finals too, 148/125 (Cox mentioned first) against Goldstein/Petrie in a demolition of North at Subiaco and 98/91 against Jolly in a tight loss to Collingwood at the MCG.

Anyway. That's all ancient history now. Julia Gillard was PM for Christ's sake.
Devil's advocate but NicNat averages 110 playing 50-60% TOG, he's the unique aspect here and perhaps the more noteworthy is that Cox drops off 10 points with it.

Both of Gawn and Grundy are grinders who wear down other rucks and both have been at their best by a significant amount when the #1 sole ruck for their teams. Gawn has dropped off 20 and then another 7 last year with Jackson eating into his role, even if you exclude 2020 it's still 8 into 15 from his previous 2 seasons.

I still think both have decent cases to be in the top few rucks because they're great players but I'm not confident in starting either with so much uncertainty.

I still hope Draper is going to be my bailout and establish himself as a clear #1 that I can grab the value on and then trade to whomever is the top ruck.
 
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Devil's advocate but NicNat averages 110 playing 50-60% TOG, he's the unique aspect here and perhaps the more noteworthy is that Cox drops off 10 points with it.

Both of Gawn and Grundy are grinders who wear down other rucks and both have been at their best by a significant amount when the #1 sole ruck for their teams. Gawn has dropped off 20 and then another 7 last year with Jackson eating into his role, even if you exclude 2020 it's still 8 into 15 from his previous 2 seasons.

I still think both have decent cases to be in the top few rucks because they're great players but I'm not confident in starting either with so much uncertainty.

I still hope Draper is going to be my bailout and establish himself as a clear #1 that I can grab the value on and then trade to whomever is the top ruck.
If NicNats off the pies im keen. Weagles clearly doing their tanking rotation last year, with a few key blokes ready to go halfway through the season apparently but not played. Their groups pretty fit from all accounts with plans to slingshot up the ladder into finals. NicNat crucial in their finals plans.

Draper on watch is much fitter from reports has done alot of running over break with plans to be dominant bigman. Might be a great pick if avoids early season injury
 
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Would just like to hear some thoughts on this first draft of a team
Skeptical on a few such as Stephens, Bowes and Coffield
I wanted Stephens before he come out at 260K, hasnt really even been a ball magnet in the twos hard to see how hes going to come out and go the roughly 78 we need at senior level to make 150K.
 
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Would just like to hear some thoughts on this first draft of a team
Skeptical on a few such as Stephens, Bowes and Coffield
You could swap Bowes and Coffield for Ginbey and McKenna, that would save you $147500. Could maybe swap Stephens for Goater or Johnson/Sinn/Davey, then ditch Windhager, who averaged 48 last year and get a better scoring forward in. Good luck mate.
 
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Would just like to hear some thoughts on this first draft of a team
Skeptical on a few such as Stephens, Bowes and Coffield
Welcome aboard!

This looks pretty good to me, and @russty has given some good feedback.

A few thoughts that come to mind:

- Your structure is nice and balanced in a blank sheet of paper sense, but may be a bit heavy on def premiums/lighter on def cash cows than this year’s crop would perhaps indicate.

- King has good JS, but his scoring is poor. To me he belongs on the bench, with Dunkley swinging down and your best bench mid on field.

- Rucks look great

- F and D premo selections look good to me (subject to any structure changes)

- Brayshaw and Cripps strike me as being less safe/lower upside picks than quite a few of their peers. Cripps is not the most durable and was bascially unstoppable at times last year, I would query whether he has a better season in him. Brayshaw is young and may improve, but his contested possession percentage and disposal efficiency may cap his ceiling. He’s also far less proven than Bont, Macrae, Touk etc and I still haven’t seen anything definitive indicating that he can beat a tag.

- It looks like you’ve picked sensible cash cows, both in that they’re not all 102k, and that they are some of the more popular/viable names at the moment. Nice work.

Best of luck!
 
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Probably forward heavy - from the past few years the consistency comes from the backs - I agree there's some value in rozee, taranto, cunnington and fyfe but I think that's just too much there.
Cunnington will depend on role I tihnk - if he plays forward in practice games I'd avoid. Unlike a Fyfe he's not going to have the ability to really kick bags of goals to pick his score up. That and the ball won't enter norths forward line much
 
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