Discussion 2023: Rate My Team
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Awesome thread everyone, some great chat/challenges and alternate view points. a few key things I have taken away from the collective knowledge of everyone
- more trades = potential to take more risk in your starting side
- Trade boosts = more ability to fix issues early with your risky picks.
- GnR = thing of the past? (not sure I believe that yet)
- sub rule = something to think about, so perhaps someone with more job certainty (Allen/King) might be better than a brand new out of the box draftee
- Rucks = massive pain in the A$$
- sometimes you just pick someone even though you don't want too, as the risk of not picking them is too much as if it backfires then 50% of teams have a jump on you. Fyfe in this case.
So with that in mind, here's my first draft. I have absolutely no idea if I really really love or really really hate this side. Its not my usual guns n rookies side, but I feel the game has changed in 2023 vs 3-4 years ago and with boosts and 36 trades its I am taking some clear risks.
Comments about the side, turns out they are mostly things I dislike:
- structure is far away from GnR - I feel i have 7 keepers/ 4 break outs (young/daicos/LDU/Newc)/ 6 returning LTI's aka value plays who will hopefully play every game (Allen/McLean/yeo/Hopper/Fyfe/King)/ 5 on field rookies
- 2 rucks in there scare me. but both are young (24 & 25) and Gawn started out with a horrible run of injuries then we all know what happened next. not sure they will be there come round 1, particularly with English having an injury concern already. Darcy also has a tough run at the start
- Lots of returning injury risks. either pure genius or Ill finish 40,000th again. dislike Fyfe but the risk of not having him is almost greater, could be a keeper or an easy upgrade when he inevitably breaks down in round 6-10
- not sold on LDU/Newc/Young. but the next Oliver is there somewhere.
- Rookies are rookies, will change as we get closer.
tear it to shreds!
- more trades = potential to take more risk in your starting side
- Trade boosts = more ability to fix issues early with your risky picks.
- GnR = thing of the past? (not sure I believe that yet)
- sub rule = something to think about, so perhaps someone with more job certainty (Allen/King) might be better than a brand new out of the box draftee
- Rucks = massive pain in the A$$
- sometimes you just pick someone even though you don't want too, as the risk of not picking them is too much as if it backfires then 50% of teams have a jump on you. Fyfe in this case.
So with that in mind, here's my first draft. I have absolutely no idea if I really really love or really really hate this side. Its not my usual guns n rookies side, but I feel the game has changed in 2023 vs 3-4 years ago and with boosts and 36 trades its I am taking some clear risks.
Comments about the side, turns out they are mostly things I dislike:
- structure is far away from GnR - I feel i have 7 keepers/ 4 break outs (young/daicos/LDU/Newc)/ 6 returning LTI's aka value plays who will hopefully play every game (Allen/McLean/yeo/Hopper/Fyfe/King)/ 5 on field rookies
- 2 rucks in there scare me. but both are young (24 & 25) and Gawn started out with a horrible run of injuries then we all know what happened next. not sure they will be there come round 1, particularly with English having an injury concern already. Darcy also has a tough run at the start
- Lots of returning injury risks. either pure genius or Ill finish 40,000th again. dislike Fyfe but the risk of not having him is almost greater, could be a keeper or an easy upgrade when he inevitably breaks down in round 6-10
- not sold on LDU/Newc/Young. but the next Oliver is there somewhere.
- Rookies are rookies, will change as we get closer.
tear it to shreds!
I liked looking at the team from Def down but then I got to the Fwd line
I certainly understand your rationale re % of ownership with Fyfe, but do you think that the same argument stands for the more premium types like Cogs/Rozee/Taranto? Bearing in mind that their respective % are 21%/36%/50% with Fyfe at 39%
Don't get me wrong, the team has merit but to me it still needs a bit of tinkering, like there's 4 tall fwds who can all score really badly at times.
I certainly understand your rationale re % of ownership with Fyfe, but do you think that the same argument stands for the more premium types like Cogs/Rozee/Taranto? Bearing in mind that their respective % are 21%/36%/50% with Fyfe at 39%
Don't get me wrong, the team has merit but to me it still needs a bit of tinkering, like there's 4 tall fwds who can all score really badly at times.
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I liked looking at the team from Def down but then I got to the Fwd line
I certainly understand your rationale re % of ownership with Fyfe, but do you think that the same argument stands for the more premium types like Cogs/Rozee/Taranto? Bearing in mind that their respective % are 21%/36%/50% with Fyfe at 39%
Don't get me wrong, the team has merit but to me it still needs a bit of tinkering, like there's 4 tall fwds who can all score really badly at times.
I certainly understand your rationale re % of ownership with Fyfe, but do you think that the same argument stands for the more premium types like Cogs/Rozee/Taranto? Bearing in mind that their respective % are 21%/36%/50% with Fyfe at 39%
Don't get me wrong, the team has merit but to me it still needs a bit of tinkering, like there's 4 tall fwds who can all score really badly at times.
Honestly defence is the hardest line for me. I downgraded Sicily to Daicos to allow Yeo at D4, but out of everyone, I'm only really confident to some degree on Dawson, and even with him I think I'm overpaying. The $600k+ defenders feel like they'll kill me if I have them, but they also feel the same if I don't. Out of the players not in the top echelon, a midfielder Angus Brayshaw, Daicos and Hayden Young tempt me the most. Even Elliot Yeo feels like a stupid pick, which means he's guaranteed to work if I don't pick him.
Personally I'm not sold on any team configuration, but believe you want to have a high ratio of season keepers (premium players), for captain pick every week. Not necessarily the most expensive player & good cash generation rookies. Each to there own team structure, I have been destroyed in past seasons by taking overpriced player selections not performing or rookies getting injured early with no cash generation destroying the trades early to replace them.. thinking a little risky this year, loading defenders & forward lines up, no expensive rucks to start. Going with where I think cash can be generated rookies that will probably play, usually in the midfield or forwards, defenders & ruck rookies usually poor cash generation!..
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Hi everyone, great to officially be so close to the start of the new foot season….
Like most on here I have chopped and changed my team so many times since the early picker was available…
below is my close to ready side ( barring rookie changes)…..
keen to get everyone’s feedback on any pros/ cons…
Have gone with 12 keepers (4-4-2-3 structure)
had Fyfe in forwards until last night but think Oscar Allen may represent greater value…
Like most on here I have chopped and changed my team so many times since the early picker was available…
below is my close to ready side ( barring rookie changes)…..
keen to get everyone’s feedback on any pros/ cons…
Have gone with 12 keepers (4-4-2-3 structure)
had Fyfe in forwards until last night but think Oscar Allen may represent greater value…
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Whilst that side was forward heavy, history generally says DEF is the least consistent. Think last years top 6 starters, only one there in Stewart at the end. Think @Rowsus did an analysis of it many many years ago that showed this up. Def rookies are the best, it is the lack of them that made us all choose 3-4 last year and end up with Crisp.
Premiums and structure look good. Steele there are some questions on.
I think you may have too many 123k rookies and better now to upgrade a few. Chesser unlikely R1 to due interrupted season, not sure on Constable, Johnson everyone has yet is there a spot for me, haven't seen Allison or Davey.
Better to be downgrading to these players later on.
Premiums and structure look good. Steele there are some questions on.
I think you may have too many 123k rookies and better now to upgrade a few. Chesser unlikely R1 to due interrupted season, not sure on Constable, Johnson everyone has yet is there a spot for me, haven't seen Allison or Davey.
Better to be downgrading to these players later on.
Draper is very interesting, really if he can push towards 90 for the first 8 or so that's the job done. I don't see a keeper this year, would be a genuine shock (he's got the skills but think it's still a couple of years away) but that jumps definitely possible, really I just want someone who can spin a bit of cash while I work out what the heck the rucks look like.
I like Marshall, Darcy, NicNat and English but they're all complete wildcards on durability and then also on exact roles and scoring. Gawn with Grundy is also a big question mark.
So basically I feel complete uncertainty this year so I'd love to have an R2 option I feel good about making cash while I watch. I still feel solid with Witts at R1.
I like Marshall, Darcy, NicNat and English but they're all complete wildcards on durability and then also on exact roles and scoring. Gawn with Grundy is also a big question mark.
So basically I feel complete uncertainty this year so I'd love to have an R2 option I feel good about making cash while I watch. I still feel solid with Witts at R1.
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cheers @GrainFedBeef appreciate it mate…agree once the practise games start will get a clearer idea of the rookies to take on… may need to free up more capital to get the right rookies in…
went for some premium PODs in Sicily and Laird…haven’t seen too many teams with that combo other than the Daicos/ young/ Bont premiums
went for some premium PODs in Sicily and Laird…haven’t seen too many teams with that combo other than the Daicos/ young/ Bont premiums
Looks alright Macca, strong backline, I've chosen to go one less premo back and one more in the mids, what do you think Green will average for the year? Be good if he becomes a premo this year. Not really a fan of King, he's never really scored well. Matty Allison hurt his knee btw and will be out for 5 months or so.
Welcome aboard.
My thoughts/suggestions would be:
- Your defence looks incredible, but the structure is very different to what most people are aiming for, given the downside risks on the defender premiums, and the potential cash cows on that line.
- Your rucks look to take a big hit for the strength of your defense. If I was picking Meek, I think I’d prefer Cameron to be up forward, with the ability to swing up if Meek misses.
- The mids are also a bit skinny with Green at M2.
- I like that you are reserving some cash for rookies priced above 120k.
- Switching two premos out of defence, and upgrading one mid and one ruck, would be my main suggestion.
Hope this helps, good luck for the season.
My thoughts/suggestions would be:
- Your defence looks incredible, but the structure is very different to what most people are aiming for, given the downside risks on the defender premiums, and the potential cash cows on that line.
- Your rucks look to take a big hit for the strength of your defense. If I was picking Meek, I think I’d prefer Cameron to be up forward, with the ability to swing up if Meek misses.
- The mids are also a bit skinny with Green at M2.
- I like that you are reserving some cash for rookies priced above 120k.
- Switching two premos out of defence, and upgrading one mid and one ruck, would be my main suggestion.
Hope this helps, good luck for the season.
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I like it as a fun team to follow, something my wife would probably start if you know what I mean. I've got no doubt you've nailed some of the mid-pricers but they'll be as many you didn't so it'll cost you trades early.
You're also lacking serious captain options, if that was my team it would take me days to work out a C/VC option each week and you'll leak so many points against others running any off Laird, Neale, Bont, Miller, Oliver etc.
FWIW I'd love to start that backline.
You're also lacking serious captain options, if that was my team it would take me days to work out a C/VC option each week and you'll leak so many points against others running any off Laird, Neale, Bont, Miller, Oliver etc.
FWIW I'd love to start that backline.