Position 2023: Ruck Discussion
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My concern is that any ruck that is polaying enough in attack to gain forward status is going to have an impacted first half of the season on their scoring. A guy like Grundy is a terrible forward IMO so expecting a 110+ average for a guy that is getting significant forward minutes is hopeful at best.
Gawn is far more likely to get it for mine, don't think Darcy is out of the question either, only need a couple of games with the split going to Jackson/Grundy and suddenly they are a Round 6 DPP addition meeting the threshold and still have 3 months of the season for the split to swing back in their favours and you could easily have a 110+ forward/ruck from the point you own them.
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I wouldnt be picking Rucks with the hope they snag DPP thats for sure, I'm more accustomed to leave a couple forward spots open incase they or a jet midfielder do, reckon alot of those modern day mids that have significant time forward are going to be close aswell, want at least 2 spots to play with, another reason why I don't like locking in Cameron taking one of them.
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Yeah, looked at him as today, was stunned, with those low scores, Round 9 is strange with a 6. Syd smashed them, had 16 HO and 6 possessions.
He has good height, upside to his TOG if his fitness has improved which is being reported. Has a dramatically higher score in wins vs losses by the looks of it. Probably like any of DC, Lycett or Draper, potential for $75k upside, questionable on $150k.
In terms of run 4 easier games followed by 6 tough games.
He has good height, upside to his TOG if his fitness has improved which is being reported. Has a dramatically higher score in wins vs losses by the looks of it. Probably like any of DC, Lycett or Draper, potential for $75k upside, questionable on $150k.
In terms of run 4 easier games followed by 6 tough games.
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Id be alot more comfortable to punt that Lycett keeps Hayes/Teakle/Visentini out of the side for long enough and you just ride him to the top Ruck of your choosing as quickly as possible, must admit I dont like either much as a pick though, need alot to go right to not blow up in your face and you'd have to find alot of cash up to a premium if it doesn't come off.
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Suspect the tank has been an issue with Draper. The better scoring rucks Gawn/Grundy/English etc usually have over 80% TOG where as Draper is mid to high 70%. NicNat does low TOG but he has other skills that Draper does not. Draper needs another 10% TOG for mine. Will be a good ruck in the future though.
Of course. Every one of the rucks basically terrifies me 
Draper is right at that point where he either makes the jump or he basically busts out, I really rate the prospect of Draper but it comes down to him. Does he want to get dirty or is he happy to provide a few highlights and generally underwhelm?
Scott generally hated playing two rucks at North Melbourne, whether that's because he had Goldy or because of his belief system is the question, I guess we find out.
I wouldn't go near Draper if either backup is in the frame and he doesn't play really well in preseason.
Draper's per minute stats in the ruck are actually pretty good so fitness is a huge aspect, #1 ruck is a huge aspect. If either of them look slightly off then I move back up to the other broken speculation plays this year
Basically Draper needs to go 90+ to be worth taking, I think keeper is pretty much a total pipe dream, 95 is probably a genuine win from him.
Mostly it's a distinct lack of confidence in the other options and wanting to actually see what happens, especially after the disasters of the last two years of using 10+ trades. I'm happy to pay more to only use 2 or 3 trades in the rucks!
Draper is right at that point where he either makes the jump or he basically busts out, I really rate the prospect of Draper but it comes down to him. Does he want to get dirty or is he happy to provide a few highlights and generally underwhelm?
Scott generally hated playing two rucks at North Melbourne, whether that's because he had Goldy or because of his belief system is the question, I guess we find out.
I wouldn't go near Draper if either backup is in the frame and he doesn't play really well in preseason.
Draper's per minute stats in the ruck are actually pretty good so fitness is a huge aspect, #1 ruck is a huge aspect. If either of them look slightly off then I move back up to the other broken speculation plays this year
Basically Draper needs to go 90+ to be worth taking, I think keeper is pretty much a total pipe dream, 95 is probably a genuine win from him.
Mostly it's a distinct lack of confidence in the other options and wanting to actually see what happens, especially after the disasters of the last two years of using 10+ trades. I'm happy to pay more to only use 2 or 3 trades in the rucks!
Of course. Every one of the rucks basically terrifies me
Draper is right at that point where he either makes the jump or he basically busts out, I really rate the prospect of Draper but it comes down to him. Does he want to get dirty or is he happy to provide a few highlights and generally underwhelm?
Scott generally hated playing two rucks at North Melbourne, whether that's because he had Goldy or because of his belief system is the question, I guess we find out.
I wouldn't go near Draper if either backup is in the frame and he doesn't play really well in preseason.
Draper's per minute stats in the ruck are actually pretty good so fitness is a huge aspect, #1 ruck is a huge aspect. If either of them look slightly off then I move back up to the other broken speculation plays this year
Basically Draper needs to go 90+ to be worth taking, I think keeper is pretty much a total pipe dream, 95 is probably a genuine win from him.
Mostly it's a distinct lack of confidence in the other options and wanting to actually see what happens, especially after the disasters of the last two years of using 10+ trades. I'm happy to pay more to only use 2 or 3 trades in the rucks!
Draper is right at that point where he either makes the jump or he basically busts out, I really rate the prospect of Draper but it comes down to him. Does he want to get dirty or is he happy to provide a few highlights and generally underwhelm?
Scott generally hated playing two rucks at North Melbourne, whether that's because he had Goldy or because of his belief system is the question, I guess we find out.
I wouldn't go near Draper if either backup is in the frame and he doesn't play really well in preseason.
Draper's per minute stats in the ruck are actually pretty good so fitness is a huge aspect, #1 ruck is a huge aspect. If either of them look slightly off then I move back up to the other broken speculation plays this year
Basically Draper needs to go 90+ to be worth taking, I think keeper is pretty much a total pipe dream, 95 is probably a genuine win from him.
Mostly it's a distinct lack of confidence in the other options and wanting to actually see what happens, especially after the disasters of the last two years of using 10+ trades. I'm happy to pay more to only use 2 or 3 trades in the rucks!
Seems like your setting yourself up for more ruck trades, it's not really a path that I want to tread any more.
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