Butters has had shoulder issues in the past so could definitely be more weakness than anything, it's a dangerous combination though. Love him as a player but injuries becoming a real factor in his career already.
Exactly. There's always gaps in preseason information. Sometimes it's Coniglio and Kelly not playing against the magoos huge, and sometimes it's a senior player letting a young guy take kick-ins for development that isn't happening in the real stuff subtle. Another subtle example is a senior player playing in a mileage role for their training loads rather than their actual role, will often see this one where they fall into that high HF up and back role instead of a clearance midfield role for example, wing another position they can slide out to for this, Sloane is a name that definitely could be doing this for example.
I think the preseason is really useful for two main things.
1. Confirming roles for players at new clubs.
2. Confirming late season role changes have stuck.
Everything else is very noisy and can be heavily influenced. That said, it's always nice to see your players looking sharp and playing well and definitely a good sign for rookies to be playing at all.
I do wonder if anyone has ever tried to correlate preseason scoring with breakout seasons to see if there's anything there.
ROB is a great matchup for Darcy in that he doesn't have any real speed away from the contest to get dangerous either and can't jump over him at centre bounces. I dare say we could get more Jackson against those guys who tend jump over him like a NicNat or those who spread hard on him like Gawn.
Definitely will be a flexible thing. If Darcy can put up 110+, he's probably going to have got the job done this year, there's scenarios for 120+ for about 4 other guys but Darcy can also do it and his scenarios (Jackson injury or just this role being a true indication) are as likely as the Gawn/Grundy injury to one scenario and probably more likely than the Marshall and/or English overcoming durability scenario.
There's a lot of players who can get 50 touches at a reserve level, there's even more that would do it if they were playing in an AFL side against a reserves side. For example Jye Bolton had 51 last year in the WAFL, I don't know if you remember the name but he was on the Pies list for a couple of years but couldn't get a game!
Yes it's a great achievement but I'd hazard there's a significant portion of AFL mids that could do it in that scenario.
So I wasn't imagining it
Cheers, sucks to hear, hopefully very minor, really liked him last year.
Exactly. There's always gaps in preseason information. Sometimes it's Coniglio and Kelly not playing against the magoos huge, and sometimes it's a senior player letting a young guy take kick-ins for development that isn't happening in the real stuff subtle. Another subtle example is a senior player playing in a mileage role for their training loads rather than their actual role, will often see this one where they fall into that high HF up and back role instead of a clearance midfield role for example, wing another position they can slide out to for this, Sloane is a name that definitely could be doing this for example.
I think the preseason is really useful for two main things.
1. Confirming roles for players at new clubs.
2. Confirming late season role changes have stuck.
Everything else is very noisy and can be heavily influenced. That said, it's always nice to see your players looking sharp and playing well and definitely a good sign for rookies to be playing at all.
I do wonder if anyone has ever tried to correlate preseason scoring with breakout seasons to see if there's anything there.
ROB is a great matchup for Darcy in that he doesn't have any real speed away from the contest to get dangerous either and can't jump over him at centre bounces. I dare say we could get more Jackson against those guys who tend jump over him like a NicNat or those who spread hard on him like Gawn.
Definitely will be a flexible thing. If Darcy can put up 110+, he's probably going to have got the job done this year, there's scenarios for 120+ for about 4 other guys but Darcy can also do it and his scenarios (Jackson injury or just this role being a true indication) are as likely as the Gawn/Grundy injury to one scenario and probably more likely than the Marshall and/or English overcoming durability scenario.
There's a lot of players who can get 50 touches at a reserve level, there's even more that would do it if they were playing in an AFL side against a reserves side. For example Jye Bolton had 51 last year in the WAFL, I don't know if you remember the name but he was on the Pies list for a couple of years but couldn't get a game!
Yes it's a great achievement but I'd hazard there's a significant portion of AFL mids that could do it in that scenario.
So I wasn't imagining it
Cheers, sucks to hear, hopefully very minor, really liked him last year.
