Position 2023: Midfield Discussion

[pizza safety]

I have Laird, and I recently ditched Clarry.
I try to follow a set format for picking my team.
The first step is: Choose your 2 or 3 C/VC options, and don't look at the dollars.
I'm struggling to find a safer option than Laird, given his consistency since his Midfield move.
If there were no C/VC's to be had, or there were 3 or 4 consistent types I was tossing up, I'd probably go without Laird.

That’s a fair call, I do expect Laird to be more consistent than Clarry and it might be hard for me to bring him in. Clarry has the bigger ceiling, which does appeal to me a lot as C/VC.

Certainly if I had the extra money I’d start both (expect them to finish M1/M2) but I only want to start one of the two and I would rather the player who has done it a few times in a row.

I won’t be surprised if Laird starts where he left off last year, but it goes against my instincts to start someone who has had a stand alone super premium season that late in their career.

 

[Baglimit]

According to post #2011 Herald Sun Supercoach thread, using the calculator, he only needs to ave 122.27 to be rated a successful pick

 

[inwhiterooms]

That’s a fair call, I do expect Laird to be more consistent than Clarry and it might be hard for me to bring him in. Clarry has the bigger ceiling, which does appeal to me a lot as C/VC.

Certainly if I had the extra money I’d start both (expect them to finish M1/M2) but I only want to start one of the two and I would rather the player who has done it a few times in a row.

I won’t be surprised if Laird starts where he left off last year, but it goes against my instincts to start someone who has had a stand alone premium season that late in their career.

Trying to get to both myself, but finding it near impossible $ wise. I'm in the Oliver over Laird camp with you.

Current side has Oliver M1 with Neale M2 (Bont and Green M3-4). This feels more than strong enough to start. Neale ownership is well unders for a player of his quality.

 

[Ginty22]

Watch the Melbourne/Tigers game.

I thought I saw a much different approach the there style compared to last year.

Oliver playing off half back I don't like at all for SC.

Much faster on the spread from stoppages and lots of different rotations through the middle and stoppages
They looked great BUT I have Oliver at M2 and I'm thinking he drops to 110 average.. 💬 Ng now he could be a wait and see until Salem is back. Then reassess.

Any thoughts from the Melbourne Supporters ?

I tend to think Oliver playing off half back is something they may use as a last resort if he is being beaten by a tag (which is very rare), and they were using the preseason game/s as a way to practice it against actual opposition

Oliver was the leading clearance winner in the league last year. You don't take that away just to 'look a bit different' in there, or at least you shouldn't

 

[pizza safety]

Trying to get to both myself, but finding it near impossible $ wise. I'm in the Oliver over Laird camp with you.

Current side has Oliver M1 with Neale M2 (Bont and Green M3-4). This feels more than strong enough to start. Neale ownership is well unders for a player of his quality.

Looks like a very reliable midfield to me, I have the same but with Steele in over Neale

 

[Blue Bloods]

I think at the end of upgrades season you want all three of Laird, Oliver and Neale. Doesn’t worry me to much if they drop 5 or so points as to hard to predict that.
Have Laird atm because he has the best consistency, Neale and Oliver seem to get those one or two stinker game and hopefully easier to upgrade too. Doesn’t mean Laird doesn’t start getting solid tags but history says the other two definitely do.

 

[Baglimit]

J Rachele named in centre in some predicted R1 lineups. Interesting, any love there as a pod midpricer?

 

[Harmonic Nine]

Callum Mills seems to be a bit of a forgotten man. Hasn't even been mentioned in this thread for over 4 weeks.

Last year, when he had 26+ touches he averaged 136 (12 games) ... or 128 (11 games) if you discount his 214.

We saw in the QF last year vs Melbourne that he doesn't need to be an inside mid to get the scores, playing a role on the wing and scoring 132 SC. Also loves to tackle which we know translates well to fantasy.

I like that he has the first bye in Rd 12 sharing with only STK, BRIS and FRE so that I can then play him all through the bye rounds and trade in maybe a Neale, Brayshaw or Steele before Rd 13.

5% ownership, could be a nice pod to start the year, capable of some monster scores.

 

[PC]

Callum Mills seems to be a bit of a forgotten man. Hasn't even been mentioned in this thread for over 4 weeks.

Last year, when he had 26+ touches he averaged 136 (12 games) ... or 128 (11 games) if you discount his 214.

We saw in the QF last year vs Melbourne that he doesn't need to be an inside mid to get the scores, playing a role on the wing and scoring 132 SC. Also loves to tackle which we know translates well to fantasy.

I like that he has the first bye in Rd 12 sharing with only STK, BRIS and FRE so that I can then play him all through the bye rounds and trade in maybe a Neale, Brayshaw or Steele before Rd 13.

5% ownership, could be a nice pod to start the year, capable of some monster scores.

Has had some preseason injury issues from memory and also Horse saying he is a 'flexible player' (translation - I am playing as a lock down in the back pocket)*

*not an actual translation...

 

[Harmonic Nine]

Think the pre-season stuff was to do with a finger in the practice game, hasn't skipped full training though as far as I'm aware.

One I might start and correct to the best premo if it's a flop. I'm bullish on him.

 

[wogitalia]

Think the pre-season stuff was to do with a finger in the practice game, hasn't skipped full training though as far as I'm aware.

One I might start and correct to the best premo if it's a flop. I'm bullish on him.

I'd recommend looking at his average over the last 10 or so games last year after his role changed, a role change that given it's Horse has no real reason to expect to go back.

He might but at that price I don't think it's worth the risk that he's continuing in the 110 role.

 

[MaxsMaggies]

I tend to think Oliver playing off half back is something they may use as a last resort if he is being beaten by a tag (which is very rare), and they were using the preseason game/s as a way to practice it against actual opposition

Oliver was the leading clearance winner in the league last year. You don't take that away just to 'look a bit different' in there, or at least you shouldn't

Goodwin has been a relatively trustworthy coach for Supercoachers, he doesn't play players out of position that often

 

[quite ironic]

Any love for Bailey Smith?

Dunkley gone only helps, perfect age, can clean up ball use and move towards the 105+ scoring possibly.

Looked quite good in the preseason.

 

[Merv Neagle]

Hi All
In a keeper league need some help. Please rate the following to what they will average this season and next.
Miles Bergman
Oscar Baker
Blake Acres
Mitch Owens

Much appreciated good luck to everyone this season.

 

[ScottishBomber]

Parish & Lycett

OR

T.Green & Grundy

 

[Shannon]

Parish & Lycett

OR

T.Green & Grundy

Green & Grundy by miles

Lycett isn’t relevant anymore in my opinion

 

[Shaunpro1]

Hi All
In a keeper league need some help. Please rate the following to what they will average this season and next.
Miles Bergman
Oscar Baker
Blake Acres
Mitch Owens

Much appreciated good luck to everyone this season.

Bergman, Acres,Owens,Baker, most would put Acres first but I'm very bullish on what Bergman can become now Amon has freed up a spot for him, kinda guy I'd love to own in a draft league.

 

[ScottishBomber]

Green & Grundy by miles

Lycett isn’t relevant anymore in my opinion

Sitting with that at the moment. Marshall and Grundy was my first draft ruck pair and now back to that 3 months later.

 

[Grundogging]

The issue for Macrae is the poor last quarter's. Clubs are constantly monitoring the players fitness while they play. Did he lose a step last year?

IIRC Macrae's poor last quarters were more down to being stuck on the bench for ridiculously long periods because the Doggies couldn't get their rotations going properly later in games, especially in junk time where a player like him who disposes of the ball well and gets in the right spots to link up typically adds another 20 easy points to their tally just from basic uncontested mark-effective kick actions after the pressure has come out of the game.

 

[Ginty22]

Bergman, Acres,Owens,Baker, most would put Acres first but I'm very bullish on what Bergman can become now Amon has freed up a spot for him, kinda guy I'd love to own in a draft league.

+ 1 to this. Bergman a seriously underrated young talent, wouldn't surprise me to see him push up to a 90 this year