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Did Bowes show enough in that first practice game to be pickable? What do Cats fans see as his role if he plays R1? I'm worried that with his versatility and the Cats' depth he could be pushed into the sub vest if he doesn't perform early.
 
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Did Bowes show enough in that first practice game to be pickable? What do Cats fans see as his role if he plays R1? I'm worried that with his versatility and the Cats' depth he could be pushed into the sub vest if he doesn't perform early.
He was good but played a couple of roles, first quarter it was as a high half forward but got a ton of the ball and linked up well with the forwards. In the second quarter he was moved into the midfield and did quite well as well. You articulated the main concerns with him and also he picked up a knock in that game from memory. I think it's a bit too far of a risk to start with him based on only a couple of quarters against Hawthorn. Geelong people might have a better perspective though.
 
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He was good but played a couple of roles, first quarter it was as a high half forward but got a ton of the ball and linked up well with the forwards. In the second quarter he was moved into the midfield and did quite well as well. You articulated the main concerns with him and also he picked up a knock in that game from memory. I think it's a bit too far of a risk to start with him based on only a couple of quarters against Hawthorn. Geelong people might have a better perspective though.
Yes, that high half forward role doesn't sound too good, even if he did well against Hawthorn. He was a premium scorer for GC playing as the main distributor out of the back half but I don't think the Cats need him in that role, and his midfield minutes may be limited in the real season given the Cats depth.

If only going with 1 premium defender, you probably need a pick in that $200k-$300k range. Jones doesn't inspire much confidence scoring-wise, Crozier has injury/JS issues. Bowes seems like the best option but hard to pick him given his uncertainties heading into the season.
 
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Yes, that high half forward role doesn't sound too good, even if he did well against Hawthorn. He did well for GC playing as the main distributor out of the back half but I don't think the Cats need him in that role, and his midfield minutes may be limited in the real season given the Cats depth.

If only going with 1 premium defender, you probably need a pick in that $200k-$300k range. Jones doesn't inspire much confidence scoring-wise, Crozier has injury/JS issues. Bowes seems like the best option but hard to pick him given his uncertainties.
Easy bail out of Bowes to Goater or Crozier ( if you don't have them ) harder to get Bowes in if he indeed does get the mid minutes.
 
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I wonder if Bowes and Bruhn both impact each other's mid time and SC scoring. Would've been good to see them both in the same team.
Agree, that’s what is making it so hard to pick them as we don’t really know the cats preferred line up/ positions. Scott loves his players being versatile so can see positional changes constantly & then what happens when Duncan is fit? Looks like he misses round 1 but should be back shortly after that. If picking a mid pricer you want to have a bit more certainty about their JS & exact role.
 
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Yes, that high half forward role doesn't sound too good, even if he did well against Hawthorn. He was a premium scorer for GC playing as the main distributor out of the back half but I don't think the Cats need him in that role, and his midfield minutes may be limited in the real season given the Cats depth.

If only going with 1 premium defender, you probably need a pick in that $200k-$300k range. Jones doesn't inspire much confidence scoring-wise, Crozier has injury/JS issues. Bowes seems like the best option but hard to pick him given his uncertainties heading into the season.
That range is a real barren wasteland though. Bowes, Clark, L. Jones, Stocker, Coffield and Crozier is pretty much it.

Looking at them, Stocker and Crozier has serious JS questions. Coffield and Bowes might not even be fit for round one, Jones is already in most sides and Clark is a lot more expensive with no scoring history at the level that he needs to hit (I'd still say he's the 2nd best after Jones...)

I think a huge reason that so many are looking at the Ridley range or taking multiple full priced premiums is because of how bad that zone is. The rookie zone looks a lot stronger though but also riskier.
 
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That range is a real barren wasteland though. Bowes, Clark, L. Jones, Stocker, Coffield and Crozier is pretty much it.

Looking at them, Stocker and Crozier has serious JS questions. Coffield and Bowes might not even be fit for round one, Jones is already in most sides and Clark is a lot more expensive with no scoring history at the level that he needs to hit (I'd still say he's the 2nd best after Jones...)

I think a huge reason that so many are looking at the Ridley range or taking multiple full priced premiums is because of how bad that zone is. The rookie zone looks a lot stronger though but also riskier.
Yeah it's not too good. I don't see what the fuss is with Jones. Yeah his JS is good but only 1 season scoring above 70 and that was some years ago. He's the type to produce some sub-30 stinkers which halt price progression too. Not sure he's worth the premium over other rookies.

Ridley, concerned how Scott will use him. Our backline is pretty much the same as last year and Ridley wasn't really too involved in our offensive play, Could be a bargain if he gets back to 100 avg though.

Been trying to find a way to not have to start McLean but the options around his price point on other lines aren't too great either.
 
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I have got to the point now where I am likely to fade Oliver. Been in my team since the start. Not because he won’t still be a top 8 mid but it is unclear how this possible mid rotation will impact his SC scoring. At his price you want certainty. Just an 8% impact on his scoring places him well below a 120 ave and around a 90k drop after 8 rds. Maths not my forte but that is my rough calc. If this idea was just something floated by a jouro as a possibility then it would be easier to dismiss but the Demons midfield coach is something else. And it makes sense in pure football terms if they can still keep winning and it can be managed successfully.

How it impacts his scoring I don’t know. It could be just overall less attendances. It could be business as usual in the first 3 quarters until the game is safe then he is held back. Or full games when the opposition is serious eg Geelong but much less time against weaker opponents eg Hawthorn, North or Eagles. Creates inconsistency in scoring and potentially impacts on his selection as a C as well.

Does provide a little cash boost for early corrections as well. At least that is the silver lining I am try to find.
 
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I have got to the point now where I am likely to fade Oliver. Been in my team since the start. Not because he won’t still be a top 8 mid but it is unclear how this possible mid rotation will impact his SC scoring. At his price you want certainty. Just an 8% impact on his scoring places him well below a 120 ave and around a 90k drop after 8 rds. Maths not my forte but that is my rough calc. If this idea was just something floated by a jouro as a possibility then it would be easier to dismiss but the Demons midfield coach is something else. And it makes sense in pure football terms if they can still keep winning and it can be managed successfully.

How it impacts his scoring I don’t know. It could be just overall less attendances. It could be business as usual in the first 3 quarters until the game is safe then he is held back. Or full games when the opposition is serious eg Geelong but much less time against weaker opponents eg Hawthorn, North or Eagles. Creates inconsistency in scoring and potentially impacts on his selection as a C as well.

Does provide a little cash boost for early corrections as well. At least that is the silver lining I am try to find.
you will find more noses at the mid trough this year like the premiers geelong .Also Kickett and Harmes will have increased minutes Clarry will be like Libba starting Def side Hopefully this will extend his longevity
 
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you will find more noses at the mid trough this year like the premiers geelong .Also Kickett and Harmes will have increased minutes Clarry will be like Libba starting Def side Hopefully this will extend his longevity

And Geelong and Richmond, teams that rotate through the mids, have not had a mid over 120 since 2018 when Danger did it.
 
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