Strategy 2023: Round 2 Trades
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I'm so pissed off with myself!
Had LDU + JHF + McKenna as my POD's (maybe not McKenna) but for some reason (that I'm yet to fathom) went with Jones + Jelly + Flanders
I'm going to blame the group think here, I've taken too much notice of the thoughts (negative) about who I wanted to go with. Obviously that's my bad. Trouble is that I really respect the thoughts and opinions offered. The answer is that I should just trust my gut and go with who I wanted originally.
Gonna boost this week and try to get my team competitive again. This week for me is changing my structure and getting those players back that I wanted to start with. Next week will be all about rookies and BE's
Jelly is the 1st one for the chopping block, risk taken there and risk delivered, always said that he might be ok as a starting pick but as soon as there's a hint of durability then he's gone, pity it's round 1
Got sucked in by Jones (ruined my score along with others) but he gave a hint of what his scoring could be like if he played out a whole game, like it was non existent before he was subbed, so he's gone too.
Flanders was ok but I was hot on JHF all preseason and wasn't fazed when he scored low in the last preseason game because he had 5-6 FA
To try and get my team back on track and run with the guys that I want then I have no choice but to boost.
So...
Jelly > LDU
Jones > McKenna
Flanders > JHF
Oh, as an addenda, I was so close to taking my VC score over Laird it wasn't funny, reckon I did myself out of 350pts (compared to the guys I earmarked), haven't had the time to work it out exactly
Had LDU + JHF + McKenna as my POD's (maybe not McKenna) but for some reason (that I'm yet to fathom) went with Jones + Jelly + Flanders
I'm going to blame the group think here, I've taken too much notice of the thoughts (negative) about who I wanted to go with. Obviously that's my bad. Trouble is that I really respect the thoughts and opinions offered. The answer is that I should just trust my gut and go with who I wanted originally.
Gonna boost this week and try to get my team competitive again. This week for me is changing my structure and getting those players back that I wanted to start with. Next week will be all about rookies and BE's
Jelly is the 1st one for the chopping block, risk taken there and risk delivered, always said that he might be ok as a starting pick but as soon as there's a hint of durability then he's gone, pity it's round 1
Got sucked in by Jones (ruined my score along with others) but he gave a hint of what his scoring could be like if he played out a whole game, like it was non existent before he was subbed, so he's gone too.
Flanders was ok but I was hot on JHF all preseason and wasn't fazed when he scored low in the last preseason game because he had 5-6 FA
To try and get my team back on track and run with the guys that I want then I have no choice but to boost.
So...
Jelly > LDU
Jones > McKenna
Flanders > JHF
Oh, as an addenda, I was so close to taking my VC score over Laird it wasn't funny, reckon I did myself out of 350pts (compared to the guys I earmarked), haven't had the time to work it out exactly
Will wait on teams but chances are I’m giving all of Bruhn, Hopper and Cunnington another week.
Will go with these if Cowan doesn’t score 90+
1. Jones to Michalanney (wont go at 90% DE every week but think he has best JS. Might be a slow burn)
2. Chesser to Callaghan (but will be on bench with Ashcroft & Mackenzie at M7 M8
Looks like going two prem in the def was a bit of a mistake so can see myself using the boost to rectify next week.
Will go with these if Cowan doesn’t score 90+
1. Jones to Michalanney (wont go at 90% DE every week but think he has best JS. Might be a slow burn)
2. Chesser to Callaghan (but will be on bench with Ashcroft & Mackenzie at M7 M8
Looks like going two prem in the def was a bit of a mistake so can see myself using the boost to rectify next week.
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Really struggling this week to determine who to trade, and how many. Trying to be conscious of not just jumping on bandwagons and trying to maintain a POD where I can. Possible players up for trade include
- Day (was a POD, but got 22 possessions with 8 CBA's and 73% DE, and still only managed 60) - so I think he just has to go
- Jones - As long as he is named, I think I will play him, with all jumping off him, and playing against the Saints
- Laird - Definitely no trade there
- Flanders - Up against the Bombers in Melbourne - just don't think he will get enough of the ball
- Fyfe - As pointed out on this thread, it would be silly to trade him out when I got him for his easy draw. Just have to hope that Fremantle change the way they play this week.
At this stage, I think Day and Flanders are the most likely candidates to go. I just don't want to go for Daicos, JHF, Ziebell, etc. Have Sheezel, Ginbey, Constable, Callaghan etc
Hoping someone can assist with what they think from the above is worth getting rid of. Cheers
- Day (was a POD, but got 22 possessions with 8 CBA's and 73% DE, and still only managed 60) - so I think he just has to go
- Jones - As long as he is named, I think I will play him, with all jumping off him, and playing against the Saints
- Laird - Definitely no trade there
- Flanders - Up against the Bombers in Melbourne - just don't think he will get enough of the ball
- Fyfe - As pointed out on this thread, it would be silly to trade him out when I got him for his easy draw. Just have to hope that Fremantle change the way they play this week.
At this stage, I think Day and Flanders are the most likely candidates to go. I just don't want to go for Daicos, JHF, Ziebell, etc. Have Sheezel, Ginbey, Constable, Callaghan etc
Hoping someone can assist with what they think from the above is worth getting rid of. Cheers
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Not sure why theres so much trade talk this round
We are clear of price changes and only have 1 game to go off
Only ones i agree with are the ones such as Jones and those that are injured.
I like many others have Laird but am leaving that until next week, hoping hes getting back up this week
Day/Chesser and all the "underperforming" rookies are the same
Although we have a bunch of trades it doesnt make sense to burn through them just because we have them
We are clear of price changes and only have 1 game to go off
Only ones i agree with are the ones such as Jones and those that are injured.
I like many others have Laird but am leaving that until next week, hoping hes getting back up this week
Day/Chesser and all the "underperforming" rookies are the same
Although we have a bunch of trades it doesnt make sense to burn through them just because we have them
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That might be the case re burning through trades, but it is essential this week to set your team up for the remainder of the season. Structure is important to those trades in Week's 6/7/8, so now is the time to set that up IMO.
However, completing sideway trades like Laird, or even Jelly if he is only going to be out for one week seems pointless.
However, completing sideway trades like Laird, or even Jelly if he is only going to be out for one week seems pointless.
You've got a pretty good squad that managed to pretty well all underperform at the same time. So I figure Marshall and everyone north of Dunkley remains. You generally want to give rookies more than a week to show their wares so they are probably off limits too. You've got the 'must haves' there at the moment anyway. Maybe you want to look at Hollands, Phillips and Chandler. Time will tell how many of and which ones you should take. I notice also that Alwyn Davey Jnr played out the match. We were concerned a bit by his tank pre season so him playing out the game has to place him on some radars
I mean really, your squad is ok on paper. I'll go through it like you need to trade something but really, you might be just as good leaving it as is. Well.. other than getting Callaghan in. I think you might really need him.
You got your mid-pricers a bit wrong perhaps but that's to be expected. Not all of them will work. I only saw the 2nd half of the Freo match but Fyfe looked cooked. Never write off a champion and all but either JL gets him more in the mids or he will have to drop him soon. He was a liability. 9 stats, 3 contested and 6 clangers including 3 FA. It's not every week that he'll play that bad, sure but he has that sort of performance in him now. I wouldn't risk it.
Hopper was very underwhelming and Bruhn ran out of gas. I'm looking at moving them on myself so it's how I would advise you. On Hunter Clark, I'd have to ask a Sainters fan if he was playing a new role or something. His DE for the last few years was in the low 70s and he went at 33% on the weekend. Had as many disposals as usual. Maybe the one extra clanger. I do notice there were more tackles and clearances. Maybe he needs another look before giving the flick? If you have Kayo, check him out. It was a good game for watching
Flanders is also in the gun for me but only because I need his coin to do what I want with Hopper and Bruhn. He's a HFF playing on a humid night against a Sydney side with something to prove. Not ideal conditions for a forward. He scored you 64 which is unders for cash gen but perhaps worthy of another look. They have a middling draw to come with the likes of Essendon and North but also Geelong and Port. None of them are at night in Qld though. Your call. But I'm looking to move him on
Chesser: We knew he would take a while to work into it and that he could miss games. If you didn't, then ok you could look to trade him. Otherwise, you would have expected the result on the weekend to some degree. He is a useful DPP for your Ginbey/Constable types. And Greene: well we knew a Hawthorn tall would struggle this year and we are just hoping for spike games. I would only trade him if and when a better rookie demands a spot.
Wilmot almost did his job. I expect he'll improve. Cowan looked the goods prior to being subbed but will be a slow burn. His 2nd(?) quarter suggested that he has a big score in him somewhere so I'm holding and Baker is a mature aged mid that should return better scores for us over the next month. I hope.
You have injury worries with Kelly and Bytel. The latter looks capable at the level and there is no point flipping him if he is missing the week. Chances are you'll want to flip him straight back in again in a fortnight for no apparent gain. Kelly is a totally different beast though. I'd trade him out but only because I didn't pick him in the first place. He gets injured a lot, regardless of him getting his body right over the last 2 years, maybe even 3 years with him playing 14/17 in 2020. But even with him having his body right for those two or 3 years, his SC output has been in consistent decline from mid 110s to the 105 he hit last year. Now he's got the whole concussion thing going on. If it was my call, I'd bite the bullet on him. I understand that others see him in a different light.
So your uninjured premos are good and there aren't many rookies screaming to be picked. That could change next week though and I know I'm preparing for it. It might not happen but if it does, I'm going to want to trade those rookies. That philosophy, in your case, leaves you either tinkering with your MPs or moving on Kelly. As the only MPs you don't have calling out to be picked this week are pretty much what.... Ziebell and Callaghan...
Callaghann is one you'll probably want by next week. Probably. But all you have to cut from your mids is Kelly and Hopper and you don't have an MF swing to directly trade Fyfe or others to him. You don't have enough coin to upgrade those rookies, even if you want to.
If Hopper really is cooked, then you downgrade him to Callaghan and would then go either Fyfe or Bruhn to ZB. I'd choose Fyfe. ALways pick the up and comer over the 30+year old with injury history. Kelly you'd then have 20k to take Kelly to whoever's in range, though I'd suggest going down to an LDU at least. It's not too late to be looking for breakouts.
But my preferred move would be Kelly down to Callaghan. This gives you another look at Hopper and frees up 340k. Now you can afford Fyfe > ZB and Bruhn/Flanders to a 500k forward. Upgrading Bruhn could get you to Cogs who yeah... injuries maybe but he could also be on an early season tear. Upgrading Flanders might get you as far as Taranto - definitely Gulden. You could even keep Bruhn/Flanders and go Clark > 500k defender and change but I dunno. As mentioned above, I think he deserves another look. Next week is rookie time and you might be dumping Flanders and Hopper. Under those circumstances, Clark > Anyone is a possibility in round 2.
So yeah:
Out: Kelly, Fyfe, Bruhn/Flanders
In: Cogs/Taranto/Gulden, Ziebell, Callaghan
I mean really, your squad is ok on paper. I'll go through it like you need to trade something but really, you might be just as good leaving it as is. Well.. other than getting Callaghan in. I think you might really need him.
You got your mid-pricers a bit wrong perhaps but that's to be expected. Not all of them will work. I only saw the 2nd half of the Freo match but Fyfe looked cooked. Never write off a champion and all but either JL gets him more in the mids or he will have to drop him soon. He was a liability. 9 stats, 3 contested and 6 clangers including 3 FA. It's not every week that he'll play that bad, sure but he has that sort of performance in him now. I wouldn't risk it.
Hopper was very underwhelming and Bruhn ran out of gas. I'm looking at moving them on myself so it's how I would advise you. On Hunter Clark, I'd have to ask a Sainters fan if he was playing a new role or something. His DE for the last few years was in the low 70s and he went at 33% on the weekend. Had as many disposals as usual. Maybe the one extra clanger. I do notice there were more tackles and clearances. Maybe he needs another look before giving the flick? If you have Kayo, check him out. It was a good game for watching
Flanders is also in the gun for me but only because I need his coin to do what I want with Hopper and Bruhn. He's a HFF playing on a humid night against a Sydney side with something to prove. Not ideal conditions for a forward. He scored you 64 which is unders for cash gen but perhaps worthy of another look. They have a middling draw to come with the likes of Essendon and North but also Geelong and Port. None of them are at night in Qld though. Your call. But I'm looking to move him on
Chesser: We knew he would take a while to work into it and that he could miss games. If you didn't, then ok you could look to trade him. Otherwise, you would have expected the result on the weekend to some degree. He is a useful DPP for your Ginbey/Constable types. And Greene: well we knew a Hawthorn tall would struggle this year and we are just hoping for spike games. I would only trade him if and when a better rookie demands a spot.
Wilmot almost did his job. I expect he'll improve. Cowan looked the goods prior to being subbed but will be a slow burn. His 2nd(?) quarter suggested that he has a big score in him somewhere so I'm holding and Baker is a mature aged mid that should return better scores for us over the next month. I hope.
You have injury worries with Kelly and Bytel. The latter looks capable at the level and there is no point flipping him if he is missing the week. Chances are you'll want to flip him straight back in again in a fortnight for no apparent gain. Kelly is a totally different beast though. I'd trade him out but only because I didn't pick him in the first place. He gets injured a lot, regardless of him getting his body right over the last 2 years, maybe even 3 years with him playing 14/17 in 2020. But even with him having his body right for those two or 3 years, his SC output has been in consistent decline from mid 110s to the 105 he hit last year. Now he's got the whole concussion thing going on. If it was my call, I'd bite the bullet on him. I understand that others see him in a different light.
So your uninjured premos are good and there aren't many rookies screaming to be picked. That could change next week though and I know I'm preparing for it. It might not happen but if it does, I'm going to want to trade those rookies. That philosophy, in your case, leaves you either tinkering with your MPs or moving on Kelly. As the only MPs you don't have calling out to be picked this week are pretty much what.... Ziebell and Callaghan...
Callaghann is one you'll probably want by next week. Probably. But all you have to cut from your mids is Kelly and Hopper and you don't have an MF swing to directly trade Fyfe or others to him. You don't have enough coin to upgrade those rookies, even if you want to.
If Hopper really is cooked, then you downgrade him to Callaghan and would then go either Fyfe or Bruhn to ZB. I'd choose Fyfe. ALways pick the up and comer over the 30+year old with injury history. Kelly you'd then have 20k to take Kelly to whoever's in range, though I'd suggest going down to an LDU at least. It's not too late to be looking for breakouts.
But my preferred move would be Kelly down to Callaghan. This gives you another look at Hopper and frees up 340k. Now you can afford Fyfe > ZB and Bruhn/Flanders to a 500k forward. Upgrading Bruhn could get you to Cogs who yeah... injuries maybe but he could also be on an early season tear. Upgrading Flanders might get you as far as Taranto - definitely Gulden. You could even keep Bruhn/Flanders and go Clark > 500k defender and change but I dunno. As mentioned above, I think he deserves another look. Next week is rookie time and you might be dumping Flanders and Hopper. Under those circumstances, Clark > Anyone is a possibility in round 2.
So yeah:
Out: Kelly, Fyfe, Bruhn/Flanders
In: Cogs/Taranto/Gulden, Ziebell, Callaghan