Discussion 2023 Round 2: Teams & In Game Discussion

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Have Xerri and Jones injury to think about this week, bank $48k. Current position 88k - would like to hear from other Coaches if these trades are too hasty or should I wait until after round 2 or maybe a mixture of do's and don'ts?
No 1 gets 2 keepers and No 2 gets more cash generation.
Thanks in advance.

1) Cunnington out - Chandler in
Xerri out - D Cameron in
Hopper out - LDU in
OR
2) Cunnington out - Sheezel in
Xerri out - Gawn in
Hopper out - Horne Francis in
Number 2 for me
 
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Thanks Dome, Socrates and Trigga for your replies. Just wondering if chasing cash generation would put me further behind and it's a slow process from there. Would what is being suggested here still be classified as being aggressive trading?
Shannon said he was going to be more aggressive with fixing problem areas early on.
I leaning toward this approach, it all depends I guess on how you feel about the trades after they have been made, how balanced your team is rather than go overboard one way or another. A few years ago I tried an experiment of just going for all the cash making Rookies after the initial team. I went right out to $150k before using the cash to bring in premium players, still finished around 30k position. The issue I found was the later Rookies we're not as good cash generating players so it used up many trades to improve your position. I had all this money in the bank waiting for a fallen premium and you had to be very patient however in the end it didn't make me enjoy playing the game which is what it's all about.
Thank you for your thought's everyone much appreciated.
The issue that I think most people have, even those willing to boost this week, is that we can't really be sure yet as to what's a problem. We don't actually know yet whether Hopper/Bruhn/Flanders are going to be busts. Even Fyfe is s chance of bouncing back, though it's a long way back for someone of his age to hitting the 100s you want at his price after the display he put in on the weekend. By playing small full forward.

Stewart's an obvious problem. 600k for 4 weeks needs to be put to use. I'd say that Liam Jones is a problem too. The rest? Yeah possibly. Maybe even probably.

Choosing not to trade relies on you getting 1 decision right. Trading or not. Choosing to trade requires you get 2 decisions right (who to sell and who to buy) and so is inherently twice as risky. Can you be certain enough after 1 round? I'm struggling with this myself. I have 3 trades that look quality and that leave me room to do rookie fixes next week. But it all involves Flanders > Chandler. I think the risk in both players evens out though the downside on Chandler is worse in that worst case, he isn't playing at all. Flanders might just hang around doing nothing.

So yeah. Perhaps, it's best to make as sure as you can that you are actually fixing a problem prior to going out and trying to do so.
 
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Interesting to see how Carlton play their cards tonight. Martin in some doubt with the calf he’s been having issues with during the preseason. I wouldn’t be surprised if we swing it and bring in Pit to try and stretch the cats. I think it’s probably inevitable that LOB will either play or be sub.

With Durdin coming in for Hewett, I expect Doc to see a lot more midfield time tonight. Fisher and Curnow should see more CBA this week as well. Doc moving into the middle more should be good news for Cowan to not be subbed, unless he cramps up again
 
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Stewart to JHF via Ginbey going back. Will wait on emergency scores from Cowan and Ratugolea before determining if Jones/Fyfe survive another week. Laird will also get another look. Will be wanting to trade in Callaghan but will likely take one more look at him first.
 
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Some late mail info from HS (post 1 of 2):

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A week can be an eternity in KFC SuperCoach.
If Jack Bowes had been named for his Geelong debut in round 1, he would have been a very popular pick as a last-minute replacement for injured Eagle Elliot Yeo.

But the former Sun was held back due to a minor calf issue and played in the VFL instead. After getting through that game without any problems, he will line up against the Blues on Thursday night.

Bowes has been named in the middle, with fellow recruit Tanner Bruhn on a wing. Bruhn attended 41 per cent of centre bounces in round 1, the sixth-most for the Cats behind Rhys Stanley, Cam Guthrie, Patrick Dangerfield, Mark Blicavs and Tom Atkins.

Where will Bowes fit?

“We brought him in thinking his best position was probably going to be an inside midfielder but the flexibility to play in other spots, with our inside mids at the moment, it can be a hard place to break into,” Chris Scott said this week.

“I think he’ll be in there a little bit but he’ll be in other spots as well ... but his ball use is going to be a real asset for us as well and we’re likely to try and get him into spots where we can get the ball into his hands.”

The Cats’ extreme flexibility might work against Bowes and Bruhn, but he’s one to put on your watch list ahead of a price change one week behind most of the rest of our teams.


Campbell Chesser scored 20 KFC SuperCoach points in his AFL debut. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Jack Bowes comes into Geelong’s team this week. Picture: Brad Fleet


ROOKIE RED FLAG

Some cheapies like Harry Sheezel and Cam Mackenzie started the year with a bang, but some others could be in danger at selection this week.

Campbell Chesser managed just five disposals in 69 per cent of game time in the Eagles’ loss to North Melbourne, and more than 91,000 coaches will be sweating on his availability.

It was a great effort for Chesser to even be available for round 1 after missing 12 months with an ankle injury, but match committee now has to decide to back him in or give him a rest.

“We haven’t made any decisions about this week’s team, it’s going to be about what’s best for the team and then what’s best for Campbell,” West Coast footy manager Gavin Bell said on SEN WA this week.

“Sometimes on the wing you can run up and down and not get a lot of ball, but we acknowledge it was a tough game for him to start in that fashion. We have full confidence in all of our kids over the last couple of drafts and in particular Chess, but we do acknowledge that he hasn’t played a lot of footy lately and we’ll make that decision at the back end of the week.”

Brady Hough, Sam Petrevski-Seton and Jake Waterman were standouts in the WAFL and will be in the selection mix this week, and Bell said Elliot Yeo was a chance to play in West Coast’s first home game of the year against GWS on Sunday.

Another team to watch on the rookie selection front is Gold Coast, where Charlie Constable and Bodhi Uwland could come under pressure from returning defenders including Lachie Weller, who has been cleared to return this week after rupturing his ACL in June last year.

Wil Powell (hamstring) is listed as a test on the Suns’ website and Sean Lemmens (calf) could be back next week.


Jacob Hopper chats with Tigers coach Damien Hardwick. Picture: Michael Klein

LOOK OUT FOR HOPPER

Jacob Hopper was another player who was a bit quieter than expected in round 1, finishing with 67 points from 18 disposals against the Blues.

But that low count might not have all been Hopper’s fault.

Richmond coach Damien Hardwick and defender Nathan Broad have both noted this week that teammates ignoring Hopper was highlighted during the week.

“Hopps was a bit out of the limelight, but we showed the players vision where he was open a lot and we didn’t get the ball to him when he could’ve hit the scoreboard,” Hardwick said on Thursday.

“We’re looking forward to that progressing.”

Broad told the Footy Talk podcast: “Watching through the vision we absolutely burnt him on the weekend, so I think he’ll get a spike this week.”

WILL A GIANT LOSS EQUAL A WIN?

GWS coach Adam Kingsley expects Josh Kelly and Lachie Whitfield to be available for the club’s round 3 clash against the Blues after the pair pulled up well from concussion.

The star duo come out of the AFL’s 12-day concussion protocols next Friday, one day before the home game against Carlton, and, providing they pass all the required tests, will be available for selection.

With Kelly back playing as a pure midfielder, more than 13,000 KFC SuperCoaches started the smooth-moving left-footer, and he was surging home after a quiet start against the Crows.

So, is it best to hold?

The usual answer to a one-week layoff is yes, but with clubs now extra cautious with head injuries, a round 3 return isn’t guaranteed just yet.

Do you have bigger problems? How is your bench cover? Could you fall behind by holding a premium as other KFC SuperCoaches trade aggressively?

Ask yourself these questions, because in the new age of KFC SuperCoach, there’s no right or wrong answer to this trade dilemma – it all depends on your team.


Finn Callaghan could get a bigger role in the GWS midfield this week. Picture: Phil Hillyard
The spin-off question to the absence of Kelly and Whitfield, along with Harry Perryman who hurt his hamstring in the win over Adelaide, is what happens to Finn Callaghan’s role?

And the answer might be a good one for KFC SuperCoaches, with Kingsley hinting the second-year Giant could be used in an inside midfield role against the Eagles on Sunday.

“There’s a chance, certainly really happy with his role in the wing, I thought he played extremely well,” Kingsley said on Wednesday.

“But we are now down Perryman and Kelly from that midfield and we need to fill the void in there and certainly Finn has that potential.”

Callaghan, who had two last-quarter clearances against the Crows as GWS shuffled in-game to fill the void, averaged 26 disposals, eight contested possessions, five clearances and five tackles in three VFL games playing onball last year.

It followed a standout draft year, where his ball-winning on the inside developed rapidly, with Callaghan winning 10 contested possessions in each of his final three NAB League matches, and winning a combined nine centre clearances to finish the season.

The 19-year-old had the highest kicking efficiency (86.7 per cent) of the top-50 midfield ball-winners in round 1, on his way to 101 KFC SuperCoach points.

Callaghan’s ownership spiked past 40,000 as a result.


Liam Jones is recovering from a neck injury. Picture: Michael Klein

DOG WATCH

It’s fair to say Liam Jones didn’t have the ideal start to his second stint at the Bulldogs, and in more than 73,000 KFC SuperCoach teams.

The intercepting defender had managed one kick, one mark, one tackle and one free kick against Melbourne before copping a neck injury and being subbed off just before halftime.

But he hasn’t been ruled out of the Dogs’ round 2 clash against St Kilda.

“Jones suffered a heavy impact to his head that caused his neck to overstretch,” the Dogs’ head of sports medicine Chris Bell said.

“Immediately following, he had some referred pain and spasm into his shoulder. With any injury of this nature, we need to make sure that we clear any serious structural damage, so Liam was sent to hospital for scans. Those scans came back with positive results.

“As expected Liam still has some pain and muscle spasm associated with the injury, so we are working overtime to get him back on track and will determine his availability as the week progresses.”

If Jones plays this week he could have an easier time down back against the Saints; three Fremantle defenders – Brennan Cox, Luke Ryan and Hayden Young – combined for 46 marks against the St Kilda forward line last week.

Any score about 78 will have Jones on track for a price jump after round 3, and that round 1 score will drop out of his price cycle the following week.
 
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Some late mail/DPP info from HS (post 2 of 2):



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Stats guru’s ultimate KFC SuperCoach DPP watchlist
– Fantasy Freako

Round 1 will go down as one of most brutal season openers in SuperCoach for some time – with a combination of injuries and underperformance from premiums making headlines.

Tom Stewart’s injury after just 16 minutes was the biggest blow of all considering his premium status –— with close to 55,000 SuperCoaches starting the star Cat.

He ended the match with just 18 points and will now be sidelined for up to one month.

Over 73,000 SuperCoaches jumped on Liam Jones after his dominant pre-season display, but like Stewart, he succumbed to injury and finished with just five points to his name.

Josh Kelly’s afternoon ended early after a concussion, but at least he had 80 points on the board.

His prognosis isn’t great, and he has already been ruled out for round 2.

Likewise, teammate Lachie Whitfield will be sidelined for this week’s clash with West Coast.

For the few that jumped on Tristan Xerri after Todd Goldstein was left out, their joy was short-lived after the former lasted just 19 minutes before going down with a knee injury.

He is also set for a stint on the sidelines.


Tom Stewart to Jordan Ridley anyone?

Luke Davies-Uniacke had a huge start to the year against West Coast.
YOUR SAY: BEST TOM STEWART REPLACEMENT
Sam Docherty
James Sicily
Jordan Dawson
Hayden Young
Nick Daicos
Jordan Ridley
Jack Sinclair
OTHER

Injuries aside, Rory Laird’s stinker was the major talking point as he posted his lowest SuperCoach score since Round 19, 2014.

What made his game even worse was the fact that he wasn’t even tagged — managing just 18 disposals and two tackles. As captain – it was even worse.

Andrew Brayshaw managed just 70 points despite winning 26 disposals, while Bailey Dale was practically unsighted after 56 points.

It was a tough round across the board for most.


Fantasy Freako’s top round 2 captaincy choices.
Crisis creates opportunity though, and with Stewart and Kelly both out it gives KFC SuperCoaches the chance to restructure and fix gaping holes in their team.

So, who do you target?

In defence, you have the option of a sideways move to Sam Docherty or Jordan Dawson, or you could trade down to someone cheaper and bank the cash.

Hayden Young, Jordan Ridley and Nick Daicos fit that criteria at around the $500k mark — with the trio each topping 100 points in Round 1.

Young collected 30 disposals, 13 marks, 11 intercept possessions and 511 metres gained against the Saints, with his kicking a highlight – posting a kicking efficiency of 94 per cent.

Ridley on the other hand hit the target with all 16 kicks and played on from all five kick-ins – taking eight marks in the process. The Bombers flicked it around took 120 uncontested marks which was only surpassed by Fremantle’s 122.

YOUR SAY: BEST JOSH KELLY REPLACEMENTS
Luke Davies-Uniacke
Tom Green
Stephen Coniglio
Chad Warner
OTHER


Fantasy Freako’s top round 2 trade targets.
Daicos had a free reign against the Cats, and he hit the target with 20 of 21 kicks — finishing with 35 disposals and 21 uncontested possessions. He was given far too much leeway, which is something he may not get in coming weeks should the opposition decide to tag him.

In terms of replacements for Kelly in the midfield, Luke Davies-Uniacke stands out like a beacon — while you could also opt for Stephen Coniglio. But the popular move looks to be moving down to Jason Horne-Francis and pocketing the cash.

As we look ahead to the coming weeks, identifying positional changes early in the season can help with future planning. There were quite a few shifts in Round 1 and below is a group to keep an eye on ahead of the first positional changes in Round 6. Take note, a player must play at least four of the first five games to be eligible for DPP status.

ROUND 1 KFC SUPERCOACH DPP WATCHLIST

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ROOKIE WATCH
It was a boom week for those with Harry Sheezel in the starting line-up as the AFL Rising Star nominee racked up 34 disposals on debut – the third-most of any player on record.

After playing the final term in defence in the Kangaroos’ final pre-season game, he continued in that role in Round 1 which was a surprise to say the least. Sheezel dominated and had a team-high 21 uncontested possessions and 12 handball-receives — also grabbing an equal team-high nine uncontested marks. That role is gold for SuperCoach and if he isn’t in your team — make him a priority!

Elsewhere, Reuben Ginbey was overshadowed by Sheezel, but he too had a game to remember – applying 12 tackles on his way to a solid 85 points. He also had 15 disposals and won 47 per cent of his possessions in a contested manner.

Cam Mackenzie had just one turnover from 18 disposals and tallied 93 points in his first match, while Mattaes Phillipou was workmanlike with 16 disposals, one goal, one score assist and 76 points.


Fantasy Freako’s round 2 rookie breakdown.
The above quartet are must-haves and need to be prioritised.

If we look at the mature rookies, Conor McKenna was one of few winners for the Lions as they were comprehensively humbled by Port Adelaide – finishing with 20 disposals (92 per cent kicking efficiency), five intercept possessions and 93 points.

After averaging 107 points in the VFL last year, Kade Chandler was handed an opportunity and he didn’t miss a beat — scoring 93 points from 16 disposals, seven tackles, one goal and two score assists. Even with Bayley Fritsch returning this week, Chandler should keep his place in the team after Kysaiah Pickett’s two-game ban.

More Coverage
Rage trade or hold? SuperCoach champ’s advice on big namesKFC SuperCoach: The Phantom’s top trade prioritiesSuperCoach Plus: 11 secret stats to kick-start your season
If you have missed one or even more of the boom rookies, then you could easily make a move for any of them this week, but take note, prices don’t change until after their third match.

Best of luck for Round 2!
 
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