Strategy 2023: Round 6 Trades

[aj74]

Byes a looking pretty good for me this year. I suspect many are in a similar position but I'm pretty heavy in Rd.15 players and while that will move with trading between now and Rd.12, I'll likely have no trouble fielding 20+ for the first three. Splitting out GC and Geel to round 13 has certainly helped matters this year.

Only potential issue is I already have 5 "premo / keepers" with the Rd 15 bye (or 7 if you count Sheezel and Ziebell) so might need to avoid upgrading to any more - makes bringing in Cogs a little more of a question mark over the next two rounds.

I'm in a similar boat with rounds 14 and 15 once I apply my wishlist to my current squad. We're probably all going to have 'finished' teams by then so having the 5 missing premos means we're relying on just the 1 rookie score. With 3 or 4 playing rookies to loop maybe, we could still get quality scores.

Those that have slingshotted through the byes will have 18 premos or maybe 20 with a couple of loops and therefore higher scores for a couple of rounds. But they also might wind up suffering sub-optimal scores either side of round 14/15 to accommodate their strategy, let alone any extra trades performed sidewaysing premos for bye round points. Guess we'll start finding out around round 16 - the end

 

[Ginty22]

Someone in either this thread of the in game thread mentioned Caleb Serong. Only 576k and averaging 110 with a round 12 bye. Last 4 weeks have been 100, 146, 101, 146. Challenging draw in the next few weeks but some softer midfield assignments in there and as the apparent chief banana now for Freo should be ok for at least 100 in the tough games. For those playing leagues, his finals series games are Brisbane, Eagles and Port all in Perth, followed by Hawthorn on the G

He's projected to get around 113 this week against WBD in Perth, which will bump his price to 590k. What's the community's view on Caleb as an option?

Like him a lot, I'm bringing him in this week barring any selection shocks elsewhere that need addressing

 

[Peter56]

I have Ratugolea sitting on the ruck bench. Is it worth my while to bring in Moyle instead of Williams from Port?
This would let me use Ratugolea onfield in theory Moyle might score as much as Williams?
Thoughts?

 

[ScottishBomber]

No upgrade?
Ginbey sounds like he will play more defense this week, however I think his main scoring has been when in mids. High BE.

I like the Chandler run coming back and remain hopefully he can push his value higher. Brought him in at $200k, maybe I am prepared to give more flex

Funny because I’ve said I was going to be agrressive in trading but decided against using a boost to get one upgrade this week. I’ll have a think but seeing how Steele goes this week/Sicily further price drop gives me another week to have a look.

 

[spark]

Really depends on your team's current structure

OKay, in
def. Dawson, Daicos, Ridley, Ginbey , McKenna, Wilmot . Em Cowan, Chesser.
Mid. Clarry, Bont, Cogs, T.Green, Setterfield, Hopper, Ashcroft, Baker. Em MacKenzie, Davey, Constable. ( Trade in Robert

Move Sheezel to DEF, trade in D.Williams (FORW), Roberts (MID)

 

[gutsroy]

How did it work out best with boost deployment last year?
Could do a simple double downgrade, save the boost and use it next week for a double upgrade with a boost.
Could alternatively use a boost, but funds could only stretch to a Sinclair type this week (don't hate, starts the Marvel run, Steele back helps, big doesn't exactly scream value) and makes next week a bit tighter.

 

[donnybuang]

The Mckenna trade is not something I'm commited to. If he gets his projected score of 70 he'll add another $20k so I'd be quite happy to hold.

Only other rookie I'd consider is Ginbey, but I have faith he's got more money to make, even if he takes a small dip.

Like you, I've had Cowan types before. Do nothing until you trade them, then have their spike game.

I'm not committed to trading anyone but Cowan at this stage. I need max cash from my rookies after replacing Docherty's lost $$$

 

[Shannon]

OKay, in
def. Dawson, Daicos, Ridley, Ginbey , McKenna, Wilmot . Em Cowan, Chesser.
Mid. Clarry, Bont, Cogs, T.Green, Setterfield, Hopper, Ashcroft, Baker. Em MacKenzie, Davey, Constable. ( Trade in Robert

Move Sheezel to DEF, trade in D.Williams (FORW), Roberts (MID)

So looking at that, with you moving Sheezel to DEF in gives you 4 keepers/premiums (assuming Sheezel keeps performing at his current rate)

I will assume Cogs goes FWD with Sheezel going to DEF which leaves you with just 3 Mid premiums with 1 suspended this week in Green - so I would be looking at a mid premium in either Miller or Neale. Miller has the better bye & draw but can see the appeal in Neale also.

 

[All is Wells]

Baker -> M.Johnson
Chandler -> Roberts
Mackenzie -> Oliver

Keeping it simple. Very suprised with some of the rookie trade in numbers this week namely Mitchell being 3 times more popular than Johnson so far. Oliver has a filthy draw coming up over the next month, not too fussed about the high breakeven.

 

[benderiffic]

I have Ratugolea sitting on the ruck bench. Is it worth my while to bring in Moyle instead of Williams from Port?
This would let me use Ratugolea onfield in theory Moyle might score as much as Williams?
Thoughts?

I clearly had the blinkers on here! I am in the same boat and this could work out being a much better scenario

 

[Manikato1]

Speaking of Rat interested about thoughts on what his future may be. I have him R3 currently. If he punches out a 70 then he will be up at 300k and even 50 puts him in the low 290k mark. I can switch him forward if required. Originally was looking for him to make some cash and provide emergency ruck coverage before trading him. Now however he is showing potential so I am thinking of keeping him for the Rd 13 bye before trading providing he can hold up his scoring. However is a long wait till his bye and to have that much cash on the pine with an itchy trading finger.

 

[baz_machine]

Speaking of Rat interested about thoughts on what his future may be. I have him R3 currently. If he punches out a 70 then he will be up at 300k and even 50 puts him in the low 290k mark. I can switch him forward if required. Originally was looking for him to make some cash and provide emergency ruck coverage before trading him. Now however he is showing potential so I am thinking of keeping him for the Rd 13 bye before trading providing he can hold up his scoring. However is a long wait till his bye and to have that much cash on the pine with an itchy trading finger.

Ive got him at R3 as well but once he gets > $300k he has done his job and is cut for probably Madden again and upgrade someone.
I'll probably play some DPP games to move him forward for a week or two but he was picked for cash generation and he has done that.
If any of the rucks go down, assess then. Hopefully no injuries for the next few weeks and Gawn becomes FWD eligible in R12

 

[Deeman1]

I agree with your concern in isolation, however, I see it as more of a spread or balance of your current Keepers which is the main issue.

Ridley currently occupy D2; Hopper at M5 plus SEVEN forwards (JZ & Sheezle counted for now). I suspect that you've been losing your H2H battle via your Def line as your Ridley has been up against a Dawson type and possibly your D3 (Michalanney) up against another Keeper.

First thing I would do is to use the recent DPP additions to rebalance your structure (by moving players around through their DPPs), then assess where you need to upgrade to best benefit your team. I'll get it to something like the below...

D: Daicos Ziebell* Sheezle* Ridley Michalanney McKenna | Cowan Constable*
M: Oliver Bont LDU Petracca Hopper Ashcroft Ginbey* Wilmot* | Baker Long* Chesser*
R: Darcy Marshall | Madden*
F: Dunkley* Taranto* Rozee* Gulden* JHF* Chandler | Ratugolea* JVR

It doesn't look too bad now with Ridley at D4, Hopper at M5 & JHF at F5.

Chandler, Baker & Long to Roberts & Williams leaves you with $534,500 (based off your proposed trade in post #234) for the upgrade. You can afford LLoyd but have to raise more $$$ (Ginbey over a Baker/Long) to get to Sinclair. As for a forward, you can afford anyone except for Cameron and Moore.

Let's say you use Ginbey in lieu of Long in the above, this will increase your bank to $588,000 for that upgrade which opens up some MID options for you (not the Neale/Laird which you desire): Serong, Cripps, Parish, JKelly, Macrae

Anyways, I feel that your team is not as dire as first thought. Yes, you're missing a couple of blue chip premiums right now, however, the overall balance (after restructuring) is okay PLUS you have a good core group of cash cows to allow you to gradually chip away at improving your team and overall scoring potential.

@THCLT you really are a gem, I'll shout you a couple at the next get together. which I'm guessing will be soon hopefully

When you paint it like that and all players are in the positions as per above, I agree maybe it does not sound as bad, but my current ranking and being 0-4 in the SCS Premier League says other

Looking at that I think the best move even though I can't get to a Laird/Neale/Miller will be to do a MID u-grade probably using Gibney to a Parish/Serong/Jelly type, might be the best I can get

Cheers mate, come see me at the next get together for your drink/drinks

 

[Socrates2]

I don't think Tom Green is a keeper so I'm upgrading him.

 

[THCLT]

@THCLT you really are a gem, I'll shout you a couple at the next get together. which I'm guessing will be soon hopefully

When you paint it like that and all players are in the positions as per above, I agree maybe it does not sound as bad, but my current ranking and being 0-4 in the SCS Premier League says other

Looking at that I think the best move even though I can't get to a Laird/Neale/Miller will be to do a MID u-grade probably using Gibney to a Parish/Serong/Jelly type, might be the best I can get

Cheers mate, come see me at the next get together for your drink/drinks

Let's assume your trades are going to be Ginbey, Chandler & Long to MID, Roberts & Williams then maybe set up your Rookies as follows:

D: McKenna Constable | Michalanney* Cowan
M: Ashcroft Chesser | Baker* Roberts Wilmot
R: | Ratugolea*
F: Madden | Williams* JVR

D: Loop your POD Rookie (or the more popular McKenna - your choice) in the off chance that they go bad; Constable as loop opens up your VC/C deeper into the round compared to WCE/GWS
M: Keep Baker (over Long) to loop with Roberts/Wilmot
F: Loop Williams with either JVR or Ratugolea (via Madden to RUC)

 

[XabiFernando]

Ginbey sounds like he will play more defense this week, however I think his main scoring has been when in mids. High BE.

Any source for this? Tried having a look through search but didn't see anything.

 

[Manikato1]

Ive got him at R3 as well but once he gets > $300k he has done his job and is cut for probably Madden again and upgrade someone.
I'll probably play some DPP games to move him forward for a week or two but he was picked for cash generation and he has done that.
If any of the rucks go down, assess then. Hopefully no injuries for the next few weeks and Gawn becomes FWD eligible in R12

Thanks for your thoughts. Hoping he can get another spike score to maximise cash gen. If he goes back to 50's it might be trade time.

 

[GrainFedBeef]

Any source for this? Tried having a look through search but didn't see anything.

Adam Simpson made reference earlier in the week that Ginbey could go back to earlier rounds of where he rotated (with another player mentioned, cannot remember who). It didnt say defensively overtly, however, thats where he did rotate. He did make a comment of not needing to be mids.

However, his cba’s have not changed a lot and his heatmap doesnt show a lot of defensive possessions in those rounds. Had hope he may have a sheezel look to him. Tried to find the comment however all I can see is him being managed.

Recheck honeyball and aflayer ratings. Former has a paywall on some of the Ginbey comments.

 

[GrainFedBeef]

Funny because I’ve said I was going to be agrressive in trading but decided against using a boost to get one upgrade this week. I’ll have a think but seeing how Steele goes this week/Sicily further price drop gives me another week to have a look.

One of the podcast was commenting how it is unbelievable steele is coming back from that injury so soon. I would be wsnting to 2-3 weeks of data.

 

[Borris]

Isn't Coniglio the trade in option this week? Probably won't get any cheaper this season and looks a steal at ~$480k

This is where I'm looking too.

Has a great role, should be ~100 averaging forward and is under $500k