Discussion 2022: Rate My Team

[lavenderbandit]

Beautiful work there. To not Neale. I think this could be season defining. His ownership, assuming a good pre-season, will be sky high. Let's not wish this upon him, but a calf in round 7 when everyone is trying to upgrade... and if you can slot those funds into a premium defender or forward who goes on a tear in the early part of the season, then that will really set you up. What it really needs is that to combine with a run of injuries to other popular players to really cause havoc.

Merrett is interesting. I've owned him a number of times. Not likely to start for for me. I don't know who out of him or Parish will be top dog.

FWIW I don't get the Tim E selection. His 101 year was pre Steph Martin. If Steph goes down, and they actually put him in the ruck, which they only did kicking and screaming (because the ruck work was so dysfunctional) at the end of last season...but they also had Aaron Naughton holding FF in the absence of Josh Bruce...so they might make a different decision with a fully fit forward line...TLDR; only if Martin is unfit, injured in the pre-season then its a strong consideration, otherwise won't make required $$$.

As for sneaking in not one but two $102k players...not prudent. I didn't start a FD last season, I probably won't this year either.

As for the cash upgrade I also subscribe that you can afford to target ultra premo. It's just that sometimes there isn't a UP D5,6/F5,6 to buy and your choosing from a bunch of largely similar scoring players. Like you identify with Dunks he could well be in his own bracket. I suspect Duncan might join him with daylight to D3-6.

Neale - yeah really torn here. i think the risk of leaving him out is big as you say he will likely be in 50%++ of teams so if you are betting against this so to speak, you really have to make that other 120k or so count and not sure i have yet. For my side it really boiled it down to an XvY of Oliver/English vs Neale/Darcy (or grundy/gawn depending on how side is structured). On face value that is a no brainer, Neale/Darcy all day. but it means picking the top 2 rucks straight up whilst with the English selection it offers the option to look at the rucks before locking in your 2nd premo. Will continue to ponder this one until round 1, as Im not sold either way yet!

Merrett - like you has always been in my side. rarely misses, so for me he fits the bill as fair value and unlikely to miss games. not 100% locked in solid for mine, but having said that most likely he's there round 1.

also great pick up on the 2 x 102k rookies, didnt actually notice i had done that! Will have 1 FD max come round 1, so will use any excess cash to change one of those to a playing rookie as the first round unfolds.

 

[Woodsey]

I never create teams this early but have to do something when stuck at home quarantining!
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Obviously nothing at this point is set in stone as rookies will ultimately determine our structures but following the trend of Def rookies being hard to come by, Ive beefed up my Def (Three really consistent premos) relative to Fwds.

I feel like this team also gives me flexibility going forward as I can go down from the quartet of Horne-Francis/Constable/Daicos/Pruess to rookies that present themselves rather than having to go up and find cash. I believe that this year we will have a lot more rookies present themselves during the year with all of the quarantining that is bound to happen. You only need to look at the NBA/Big Bash to look at the amount of players that are being plucked from thin air. However as a North fan no way Im getting rid of Horne-Francis after watching his highlights!

A lot has been said about Cogs on the thread but at 260k, a midfield role and also a chip on the shoulder I think he is too good to pass up!

Keen for any feedback and as always happy supercoaching! Theres no rest for the wicked... even in January!

 

[lavenderbandit]

I never create teams this early but have to do something when stuck at home quarantining!
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Obviously nothing at this point is set in stone as rookies will ultimately determine our structures but following the trend of Def rookies being hard to come by, Ive beefed up my Def (Three really consistent premos) relative to Fwds.

I feel like this team also gives me flexibility going forward as I can go down from the quartet of Horne-Francis/Constable/Daicos/Pruess to rookies that present themselves rather than having to go up and find cash. I believe that this year we will have a lot more rookies present themselves during the year with all of the quarantining that is bound to happen. You only need to look at the NBA/Big Bash to look at the amount of players that are being plucked from thin air. However as a North fan no way Im getting rid of Horne-Francis after watching his highlights!

A lot has been said about Cogs on the thread but at 260k, a midfield role and also a chip on the shoulder I think he is too good to pass up!

Keen for any feedback and as always happy supercoaching! Theres no rest for the wicked... even in January!

great looking side mate, could debate one or two individual premium selections with you just for the sake of it but all of those are very solid picks!

Perhaps looking at milera/cogs/curnow/constable and Pruess - maybe 1 or 2 mid price/spec picks too many? but can understand the reason you have included them all with what you have said about importance of playing picks with the likelyhood of covid impacts. good luck.

 

[Woodsey]

great looking side mate, could debate one or two individual premium selections with you just for the sake of it but all of those are very solid picks!

Perhaps looking at milera/cogs/curnow/constable and Pruess - maybe 1 or 2 mid price/spec picks too many? but can understand the reason you have included them all. good luck.

Thanks mate and agree that there are a few speculative ones. I do think that Comben is absolutely in our best 22 when fit so Pruess is probably the one I’m most likely to drop abs move Comben into the ruck.
Curnow also the one I’m worried with but everyone knows his potential. I didn’t start Daniher last year due to injury history and it did impact my cash gen come upgrade time.
Like you said all of them have a case/rationale behind their selections at the moment so will wait and see what transpires pre-season and adjust accordingly.

 

[pizza safety]

Prefer Duncan as a much safer selection as it is very hard to envisage Taranto getting close to 105 as he will likely top out around 100-102.5 due to his poor disposal efficiency and you will be heavily reliant on him averaging 28+ disposals and 6 tackles across the season to reach around that 105 range. Duncan has far greater upside, more proven scoring history, dual position status, greater consistency, a far more friendly SuperCoach game style and less likely to disappoint as a starting selection or require a trade.

I prefer Duncan based on past form and who he has been up until now but next year he is turning 31 and he is becoming fairly injury prone. The fact he played more time forward last year is not a great sign for me and I could see a Sidebottom like decline happening next season. If we get the Duncan of the previous 5 seasons he is clearly the better pick but I am cautious of starting players at his age, it can go wrong.

I think Taranto’s ceiling is 105-110, he’s already averaged 102 and in that season he was averaging 105 or 106 up to the midway point. If you look at last season he averaged 97 whilst playing over 35% of time forward, if he gets another 10-15% of mid time that another 5 points he gets back straight away. I can’t see his kicking improving but I can see his contested work ticking up a bit as well as his overall disposals. I don’t love him as a pick but for now I prefer him over Duncan because of age. There’s a good chance I don’t start either.

I think Taranto is safe with a touch of upside, Duncan has been the better SC player up until now but I fear a decline

 

[pizza safety]

Prefer Duncan as a much safer selection as it is very hard to envisage Taranto getting close to 105 as he will likely top out around 100-102.5 due to his poor disposal efficiency and you will be heavily reliant on him averaging 28+ disposals and 6 tackles across the season to reach around that 105 range. Duncan has far greater upside, more proven scoring history, dual position status, greater consistency, a far more friendly SuperCoach game style and less likely to disappoint as a starting selection or require a trade.

I will also just add I don’t see Taranto requiring a trade, he should very likely be top 6 as a forward, Duncan was out injured 3 different times last season

 

[pizza safety]

Very tempted to go preuss as well, if it fails though due to form or another injury it could go bad. Do you think Hobbs will get a go in round 1?

He could get a go, especially if we have anyone injured in the middle. But I’m not sure he gets the role he needs to score well or would stay in the side, we now have a decent amount of midfield depth. An injury to one of Zerrett, Parish, Stringer, McGrath, Langford or Caldwell would probably give him a run in the side and through the middle given he already seems pretty AFL ready. Otherwise he comes into the side as the 7th midfielder and won’t score that well

 

[lipsunited]

Thanks mate and agree that there are a few speculative ones. I do think that Comben is absolutely in our best 22 when fit so Pruess is probably the one I’m most likely to drop abs move Comben into the ruck.
Curnow also the one I’m worried with but everyone knows his potential. I didn’t start Daniher last year due to injury history and it did impact my cash gen come upgrade time.
Like you said all of them have a case/rationale behind their selections at the moment so will wait and see what transpires pre-season and adjust accordingly.

Hey mate, do you mind giving your thoughts on Comben as a player and where he fits in? Only the one game last year. Any north fans willing to chip in?

 

[Santoz]

I will also just add I don’t see Taranto requiring a trade, he should very likely be top 6 as a forward, Duncan was out injured 3 different times last season

It's this that has me leaning toward Taranto as I'm gambling on Coniglio & Sicily. Need to save those trades.

 

[Woodsey]

Hey mate, do you mind giving your thoughts on Comben as a player and where he fits in? Only the one game last year. Any north fans willing to chip in?

Not a problem mate! There have been massive wraps on Comben internally but as with a lot of young key position players he has taken a bit of time.

I might be a bit more bullish on him than others but I think that he and Larkey are our two key forwards of the future. 200cm, great overhead and athletic for his size.

Will actually be interesting how we line up if all of Goldy/Larkey/Comben/CCJ/Xerri/Edwards are fit.

Goldy/Larkey are locks. My guess is Edwards and Xerri will ply their craft in the VFL so there’s one spot for CCJ/Comben.

Also worth noting Comben has played 6 games in 2 years so maybe he does start in VFL if they take the safe approach.

He might not start the year but barring injury is one I’d back to get a few games in this year, especially considering our need to play youth.

 

[Toothless Tigers]

Goldy/Larkey are locks. My guess is Edwards and Xerri will ply their craft in the VFL so there’s one spot for CCJ/Comben.

Considering the effort North Melbourne went to recruit CCJ, I would be very surprised if he did not start.

 

[BIGB0Y]

He could get a go, especially if we have anyone injured in the middle. But I’m not sure he gets the role he needs to score well or would stay in the side, we now have a decent amount of midfield depth. An injury to one of Zerrett, Parish, Stringer, McGrath, Langford or Caldwell would probably give him a run in the side and through the middle given he already seems pretty AFL ready. Otherwise he comes into the side as the 7th midfielder and won’t score that well

Thanks mate one more thoughts on Reid? Do you play him? High draft pick.

 

[pizza safety]

Thanks mate one more thoughts on Reid? Do you play him? High draft pick.

With Kelly coming in it's a little bit more difficult, but I can see him replacing Francis in the side if he looks good in preseason, a bit less sure about him.

 

[BIGB0Y]

With Kelly coming in it's a little bit more difficult, but I can see him replacing Francis in the side if he looks good in preseason, a bit less sure about him.

Top 10 pick surely he starts getting games in his 2nd season.

 

[pizza safety]

Top 10 pick surely he starts getting games in his 2nd season.

Yeah in all likelihood he would start over Francis, but key position players can be a little bit slower to get games and there's other guys who are probably ahead of him, he hasn't played much VFL yet either. I'm sure he will be in the side during the season but not necessarily by round one. There's Laverde, Hurley, Kelly, Ridley (sometimes) and Stewart who all play tall to contend with. They're not all fantastic players but he's coming from a while back. Hurley might not be back to 100% so he could start ahead of him and he may get a go ahead of Stewart (I don't think Stewart is that good). Hurley may not be the same player this season after what happened with his hip.

He missed most of last year first through glandular and then through a stress fracture so could be a bit further back in his development than he should be.

 

[Merv Neagle]

Yeah in all likelihood he would start over Francis, but key position players can be a little bit slower to get games and there's other guys who are probably ahead of him, he hasn't played much VFL yet either. I'm sure he will be in the side during the season but not necessarily by round one. There's Laverde, Hurley, Kelly, Ridley (sometimes) and Stewart who all play tall to contend with. They're not all fantastic players but he's coming from a while back. Hurley might not be back to 100% so he could start ahead of him and he may get a go ahead of Stewart (I don't think Stewart is that good). Hurley may not be the same player this season after what happened with his hip.

He missed most of last year first through glandular and then through a stress fracture so could be a bit further back in his development than he should be.

Recent history says clubs play top 10 draft picks early. Reid is as athletic as Cox wont surprise he lines up on a wing.

 

[randomcliche]

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Nice pick in Marchbank,
(clearly I’ve butchered that comment)

I never create teams this early but have to do something when stuck at home quarantining!
V1.JPG

Obviously nothing at this point is set in stone as rookies will ultimately determine our structures but following the trend of Def rookies being hard to come by, Ive beefed up my Def (Three really consistent premos) relative to Fwds.

I feel like this team also gives me flexibility going forward as I can go down from the quartet of Horne-Francis/Constable/Daicos/Pruess to rookies that present themselves rather than having to go up and find cash. I believe that this year we will have a lot more rookies present themselves during the year with all of the quarantining that is bound to happen. You only need to look at the NBA/Big Bash to look at the amount of players that are being plucked from thin air. However as a North fan no way Im getting rid of Horne-Francis after watching his highlights!

A lot has been said about Cogs on the thread but at 260k, a midfield role and also a chip on the shoulder I think he is too good to pass up!

Keen for any feedback and as always happy supercoaching! Theres no rest for the wicked... even in January!

Riddle me a story in Dyson… I’m intrigued.

 

[Torress]

definitely don't consider anything "stolen" haha, mate the awesome thing about this site is the free sharing of ideas! The things i like about the English selection is i) he doesn't need a huge improvement to be top 10 FWD ii) the flexibility it provides both to get a look at the best rucks for the year rather than selecting both straight up, as for the first time in a while the top 2 are not clear cut with Grawdy, Darcy, NN and even OMac in the mix plus and you can move him forward once you are ready to upgrade to your 2nd ruck and iii) the potential ruck DPP cover through the year in what will almost certainly be a covid disrupted year like what's happening in the BBL.

as you say dont think you could actaully roll with that sie probably 2-3 too many spec picks, but Luke Jackson an interesting one who you have there. Wouldn't select him myself as he will always sit behind Gawn but dont see how the Dees cant have him as best 22 every week now after his performance in the back end of the year and esp in the finals. might look in to him a bit more.

probably not the right thread but anyone else thinking we might end up with more trades overall and each week from the start to allow for covid issues? i have zero insider knowledge on this, just pure speculation on my behalf.

He could get a go, especially if we have anyone injured in the middle. But I’m not sure he gets the role he needs to score well or would stay in the side, we now have a decent amount of midfield depth. An injury to one of Zerrett, Parish, Stringer, McGrath, Langford or Caldwell would probably give him a run in the side and through the middle given he already seems pretty AFL ready. Otherwise he comes into the side as the 7th midfielder and won’t score that well

As a fellow bomber i got to add Shiel to this list of midfielders you have mentioned too. It isn't the type of pick i would normally go for, but Shiel would be a safe value stepping stone. Priced at an average of 73, goes 95ish almost every year - seemed to be off a HFF/wing in 2021 but if he has a solid pre season i could understand the pick. I do hope Hobbs gets his chance, however it more than likely won't be round 1.

 

[pizza safety]

As a fellow bomber i got to add Shiel to this list of midfielders you have mentioned too. It isn't the type of pick i would normally go for, but Shiel would be a safe value stepping stone. Priced at an average of 73, goes 95ish almost every year - seemed to be off a HFF/wing in 2021 but if he has a solid pre season i could understand the pick. I do hope Hobbs gets his chance, however it more than likely won't be round 1.

Just completely forgot to include him in our midfield, he’s definitely going to get decent time in there . He could be a good stepping stone but is probably a little bit too expensive for me, I prefer Berry from the lions atm

 

[Bomber18]

Thoughts welcome. The Marshall pick is one that's not set in stone, I think Preuss will be my R2 if he looks good and set play round 1 and Darcy will reluctantly be my pick if Marshall's body isn't 100%

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Nice looking side. Marshall a nice POD potentially, got him in my keeper league so wouldn't mind him taking the next step!

TT as a starter would be my main bone I think for reasons already discussed above haha. Would prefer Duncan as a starter and TT as an upgrade target.

Are you particularly bullish on Gresham or have you just slotted him in because you have the cash? I think I had CCurnow in my current draft for that cash cow / stepping stone option (alongside Cogs) but I think I could consider Gresham there too.