Strategy 2023: Round 2 Trades

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should Jones not turn up, Stocker?

Two good preseason matches in role. Views from the match appreciated :)
 
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Toying with a few different things, Jones D3 not looking as I was hoping

Hopper and Jones for Phillips/Pou and Daicos

Leaves 80k for corrections round 3
 
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Looking likely:

Cunnington, Bruhn & Cowan (Out)
Gulden, Sheezel & McKenna (In)

Next week:

Hopper & Chesser (Out)
JHF & Chandler (In)
TBH I think this is fairly rash.

You picked these players for a reason, 1 week is not much information to base trades on, unless have major queries about the players you picked in the first place.

I agree that Cunnington and Bruhn may not have lived up to expectations, but has much change from before this round until now?

IMO trades at this stage should really only be used on injured players or players that you have had a major change in thinking on, not chasing last weeks points.
 
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should Jones not turn up, Stocker?

Two good preseason matches in role. Views from the match appreciated :)
Seems in the best 22 (a win helps too!)
I'd prefer to get a second week of scoring, but might be forced if Jones misses / emergency doesn't score well. Dogs normally a good matchup for defenders (because Dogs mids dominate the clearances :LOL:)
 
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Whilst true, always worried about lingering effects - often players don't come back 100%. Need points on the field in the next few weeks after a poor start.
I've had some awful experiences holding players after concussion. Stef Martin, Ridley and English to name a few. I want healthy players and need some points on the board after Stewart and Jones tanked my round 1.
 
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Do we have an update on Stewart? I know we're all expecting a long break, but any chance it's just a couple of weeks?
 
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I always try and solve two birds in these situations

Jelly > Sheezel (Davey to mid, Mackenzie on field)
Liam Jones > anyone (premo defender)

Gets the defence to been 3/0/5 split.
Running Setterfield, Hopper, Callaghan, Mackenzie in the mods. What could go wrong.

Fyfe see what he does vs north at home
 
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Not sure what happened with Rampe's scoring last year (ave 60) but I wouldn't go there. You might be able to keep Jones for another week and give him a chance to redeem himself.
Its very early to tell, but it looks like Rampe has his old role back, or perhaps its an entirely new role i'm not sure.

If you look at last years heatmaps, he was purely controlling one side defensively, sometimes the left side, sometime the right but never both and always as a lock down defender.

Here is a typical one from round 23 last year. (round 22 was the same but on the left side of the defence)
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This is his heatmap from round 1. In short he is spending more time further up the ground and roaming the entire defensive area and being used as a target out of defence. If this role stays, then he looks great, if the old role comes back he's SC poison.
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TBH I think this is fairly rash.

You picked these players for a reason, 1 week is not much information to base trades on, unless have major queries about the players you picked in the first place.

I agree that Cunnington and Bruhn may not have lived up to expectations, but has much change from before this round until now?

IMO trades at this stage should really only be used on injured players or players that you have had a major change in thinking on, not chasing last weeks points.
I couldn't really care less about last week's points.

Cunnington's role was ordinary & he hardly got near the ball even when in the middle. Bruhn's TOG% is a concern as is Hopper's. Hopper looks like he has no tank.

The cost of 2x trades to bring in Gulden & JHF is worth it if they look like being forward keepers.
 
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JHF is one I'm certainly keeping an eye on as is Daicos, Worpel and Ziebell. Like @dlanod said in another post it does look to be chasing points but the role JHF had round 1 and in his last preseason game look really good.

My problems early look like being Fyfe and Jones as a priority with Flanders and Bazlenko a watch, maybe another week.

Fyfe looked terrible but not only that, if ever I feel there was a game that Fyfe would be thrown in the middle to be that 'impact' player, yesterday was it late in the third and last qtr, didn't happen. So I'm thinking JL is true to his word, Fyfe may not have the capacity to run through the middle now or JL feels he has a strong enough midfield that has surpassed Fyfe. Either way that game was a clear red flag for me.

Jones was a cover pick, probably FOMO more than anything, the silver bullet to run a light backline.

I was initially thinking a boost which feels a little rage trade being Fyfe, Bazlenko and Jones out with JHF, Daicos and Sheezel in.

Now I'm thinking maybe Fyfe & Jones to Cole & Ziebell - this lets me look at JHF, Bazlenko, Flanders and Daicos/Young another week along with Sheezel to take on the bubble if he gets through another week.
 
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TBH I think this is fairly rash.

You picked these players for a reason, 1 week is not much information to base trades on, unless have major queries about the players you picked in the first place.

I agree that Cunnington and Bruhn may not have lived up to expectations, but has much change from before this round until now?

IMO trades at this stage should really only be used on injured players or players that you have had a major change in thinking on, not chasing last weeks points.
Almost everyone selected their players off 1 week of practice matches though.

With 36 trades, why can't we make moves before price changes with 100% more data?
 
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Nothing wrong with your team mate, Dale will be ok, you have the same 3 problems I do, Stewart, Jones and Fyfe, get rid of those 3 and things'll start looking up.
IMO Stewart needs to go, but the other two don't hurt your bank until after another game and a second look is worth taking when it's free.
 
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Almost everyone selected their players off 1 week of practice matches though.

With 36 trades, why can't we make moves before price changes with 100% more data?
Prices don't change until after round 3, so you get at least one more look at them before price changes.

I did not say don't trade I was simply saying there is no harm waiting another week, for all we know Cunnington and Bruhn come good this week and JHF (or the like), get injured and need to be traded again.

I just think one more week of data is not going to hurt in the long-run.

Sheezel is probably a bit different, if you think you may need to fix two problems plus get Sheezel and say Chandler next week, you may have to bite the bullet this week on one.
 
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Just trade who you wanna trade in, and trade who you wanna trade out.
It's a game with 36 trades, have fun! (unless you desperately need the $50k).

For me, I seldom trade in rookies before their bubble so will wait till round 3 for any corrections.
Unless news comes out that something is srsly wrong with Laird, will probably hold too.

Jelly & Jones I might entertain trading out, just because I need points onfield badly after a poor week 1.
 
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