Discussion 2025: AFL SuperCoach Discussion

[wogitalia]

Day is under strong consideration for me despite the double bye.

His first bye is in round 4 & he is playing opening round so would of had his first price change by then - at 491K he is hard to resist when you look at this block of scores before injury derailed his season last year :-

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Was subbed off on 53 the following week, injured very early in the game in round 23 when on just 10

Hawks share the round 4 bye with just 1 other team - Essendon. I am unlikely to start any Essendon premium & Day is the only hawk I am very keen on so that actually works well with my structure.

Freo & Saints having the best bye in round 13 makes Sinclair/Clark/NWM/ Macrae/Phillipou appealing.

He's value but there very, very obvious negative on him is durability. Not sure he has a body part he hasn't missed games with at this point.

Has missed 11, 17, 5, 2 and 7 in each season so far, the only positive is that's in chronological order, so it's been "better" the last 3 years.

I really rate him as a player.

Feel like the defenders is going to be very samesy this year at the start. With the awful byes it's basically pick 3 of the 6 options, Mills seems popular (not at all convinced yet) and then rookies.

Rucks are always interesting.

Forwards have so many value options, it really screams as the spot to value hunt to me. Even rarer in that only really Smith is cheap because of injury (in the midprice group at least) so you're not even having that concern with the majority of them. Will definitely be a huge strategic decision on the forwards.

Mids also looking pretty similar so far across the board. Which always makes uniques much bigger risk/reward.

Personally it's going to take a weird preseason for me to not be chasing the majority of my value through the forwards.

 

[Vicwood]

Another year only a few more sleeps.

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First take pre Xmas

 

[Eagling]

Training reports suggest that Ryan Maric ($223,800 M/F) is training as a distributor out of defence.

 

[Santoz]

I really like how balanced this team is. If I'm missing another gun rookie midfielder I'll go down from Flynn in the Flex spot.

 

[Vicwood]

Training reports suggest that Ryan Maric ($223,800 M/F) is training as a distributor out of defence.

Wat about the RK department, will Flynn move in front of Williams.?

And then their is Baker, is he with the mids.?

 

[Eagling]

Wat about the RK department, will Flynn move in front of Williams.?

And then their is Baker, is he with the mids.?

From reading the reports, the ruck situation is still up in the air; Flynn is a better pure ruck but BJW is more serviceable around the ground. Jack Williams is a decent chop-out but he wouldn't be able to handle the main duties. Harry Barnett might be getting a CHB/ruck role, and Archer Reid is still developing. I think it's a wait and see; maybe it'll even be a setup similar to Geelong where BJW and Flynn go in and out of the side.

From what I've heard on Baker, he seems to be mainly training in defence, and acting as the link between defence and midfield. I reckon he'll also get some midfield time too. There's definitely points on offer if he avoids being a Mr Fix-it.

 

[Jim Irwin's Heart]

I believe this will remain my team until the end of opening round, barring unforeseen injuries.

 

[sethlad]

I really like how balanced this team is. If I'm missing another gun rookie midfielder I'll go down from Flynn in the Flex spot.

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Just fyi,Gibcus & Hotton are mid year at very earliest.
Be surprised if Hotton debuts this year

 

[Eagling]

Just a few random musings on Rucks and how the line is doing my head in:

Gawn: Surely at his age he can't keep this form up. Supercoach royalty in anyone's book but if he goes 110-115 this year I don't think anyone could hold it against him.

Xerri: Broke out in spectacular fashion last season but I don't think he quite sustains it. I do think he's got a good chance of being the #1 ruck but tackle count was way above average. I also think the gameplan will be tweak so Xerri doesn't take as much 1st possession out of the ruck. Still, absolutely no competition so his floor should be extremely high. 115-120 is my guess for his average.

Marshall: He's going to play full forward this year behind Harry Boyd. R/F Marshall DPP in round 6.

Nankervis: Career best season last year, barely a midfield to service. Just no.

English: Down year from his mammoth peak but is he underpriced or is he a 105-110 guy? He gets knocked around a lot and maybe he pushes 115. I think 128 will be considered a flash in the pan season after a few years.

Witts, Grundy, Cameron, Meek: All with the early bye. Maybe a case can be made for Meek to break out.

TDK: Been a mainstay in my side. Still, injury concerns and ruck share a major issue. At least Carlton were far more successful with TDK as the main ruck, so all going well he could be a 115-120 player.

Darcy: I romanticise him a lot, but the cold hard truth is that he's probably a 100-105 ruck when you take into consideration all the factors stacked against him. Great bye but priced at 98 the upside isn't there unless something happens to Jackson.

The rest:

Conway: If you can trust Chris Scott to give him the solo ruck role then I'd consider him.
Bryan might get the #1 ruck role at Essendon with Draper as a FWD/RUC but does he have the scoring capacity to play on-field?
Flynn is extremely popular but I don't actually think his spot is in any way secure.

The big issue is that the Blues, Roos and Dogs all share the same bye so any pairing of TDK/Xerri/English have both rucks missing during the same week. Maybe you just take two and hope that Boyd/Marshall have R/F DPP to link to cover them.

 

[Singapore Flyers]

Just a few random musings on Rucks and how the line is doing my head in:

Gawn: Surely at his age he can't keep this form up. Supercoach royalty in anyone's book but if he goes 110-115 this year I don't think anyone could hold it against him.

Xerri: Broke out in spectacular fashion last season but I don't think he quite sustains it. I do think he's got a good chance of being the #1 ruck but tackle count was way above average. I also think the gameplan will be tweak so Xerri doesn't take as much 1st possession out of the ruck. Still, absolutely no competition so his floor should be extremely high. 115-120 is my guess for his average.

Marshall: He's going to play full forward this year behind Harry Boyd. R/F Marshall DPP in round 6.

Nankervis: Career best season last year, barely a midfield to service. Just no.

English: Down year from his mammoth peak but is he underpriced or is he a 105-110 guy? He gets knocked around a lot and maybe he pushes 115. I think 128 will be considered a flash in the pan season after a few years.

Witts, Grundy, Cameron, Meek: All with the early bye. Maybe a case can be made for Meek to break out.

TDK: Been a mainstay in my side. Still, injury concerns and ruck share a major issue. At least Carlton were far more successful with TDK as the main ruck, so all going well he could be a 115-120 player.

Darcy: I romanticise him a lot, but the cold hard truth is that he's probably a 100-105 ruck when you take into consideration all the factors stacked against him. Great bye but priced at 98 the upside isn't there unless something happens to Jackson.

The rest:

Conway: If you can trust Chris Scott to give him the solo ruck role then I'd consider him.
Bryan might get the #1 ruck role at Essendon with Draper as a FWD/RUC but does he have the scoring capacity to play on-field?
Flynn is extremely popular but I don't actually think his spot is in any way secure.

The big issue is that the Blues, Roos and Dogs all share the same bye so any pairing of TDK/Xerri/English have both rucks missing during the same week. Maybe you just take two and hope that Boyd/Marshall have R/F DPP to link to cover them.

I have an eye on Briggs. Went 109 in 2023. Dropped back last year to a mid 90 odd. He had a run between first and second byes where he just toiled around 70-90 mark. His run home was reasonable. He did look like he was carrying an injury through a lot of the season. If he can get that injury fixed (although it was a shoulder, which is not the sort of injury that you want your ruck carrying), as a 50 game player, I can see him getting back over 105 and pushing 110. Early bye counts against him.
If we do get to start a cheap R2, I wouldn’t be surprised if Briggs was one we traded into.

 

[warewolves]

Just a few random musings on Rucks and how the line is doing my head in:

Gawn: Surely at his age he can't keep this form up. Supercoach royalty in anyone's book but if he goes 110-115 this year I don't think anyone could hold it against him.

Xerri: Broke out in spectacular fashion last season but I don't think he quite sustains it. I do think he's got a good chance of being the #1 ruck but tackle count was way above average. I also think the gameplan will be tweak so Xerri doesn't take as much 1st possession out of the ruck. Still, absolutely no competition so his floor should be extremely high. 115-120 is my guess for his average.

Marshall: He's going to play full forward this year behind Harry Boyd. R/F Marshall DPP in round 6.

Nankervis: Career best season last year, barely a midfield to service. Just no.

English: Down year from his mammoth peak but is he underpriced or is he a 105-110 guy? He gets knocked around a lot and maybe he pushes 115. I think 128 will be considered a flash in the pan season after a few years.

Witts, Grundy, Cameron, Meek: All with the early bye. Maybe a case can be made for Meek to break out.

TDK: Been a mainstay in my side. Still, injury concerns and ruck share a major issue. At least Carlton were far more successful with TDK as the main ruck, so all going well he could be a 115-120 player.

Darcy: I romanticise him a lot, but the cold hard truth is that he's probably a 100-105 ruck when you take into consideration all the factors stacked against him. Great bye but priced at 98 the upside isn't there unless something happens to Jackson.

The rest:

Conway: If you can trust Chris Scott to give him the solo ruck role then I'd consider him.
Bryan might get the #1 ruck role at Essendon with Draper as a FWD/RUC but does he have the scoring capacity to play on-field?
Flynn is extremely popular but I don't actually think his spot is in any way secure.

The big issue is that the Blues, Roos and Dogs all share the same bye so any pairing of TDK/Xerri/English have both rucks missing during the same week. Maybe you just take two and hope that Boyd/Marshall have R/F DPP to link to cover them.

I’m not a Saints expert by any means, but they have recently signed Max King to an 8 year contract. Surely he is their first pick at FF.. Also Marshall is a better round the ground footballer than most rucks.. I can’t see him spending much less time in the middle.

 

[Vicwood]

I’m not a Saints expert by any means, but they have recently signed Max King to an 8 year contract. Surely he is their first pick at FF.. Also Marshall is a better round the ground footballer than most rucks.. I can’t see him spending much less time in the middle.

Me Either, but from the outside looking in some observations.....

The Max King 8 year contract is a absolute shocker by the club but that's what desperation forces you to do. Make bad decisions. A bloke that has missed half the games the past 2 seasons and returned 28 -19 goals and a average of 1.92 goals a game. . A bloke who is injured every second week, a bad set shot a ordinary lead and overhead mark. This is who the club has pinned their hopes on. Media Hype doesn't get you goals.

Max King will be paid a reported a million a year, for 8 years, for 2 goals a game, absolute madness. Right up their with the stupidity of the Darcy long term contract.

And then the club release Membrey who kick 30 goals last year, thank you St Kilda list management very welcome at Collingwood.

That leaves WHO at the saints too fill the Key FWD roles....... Caminti and Sharman

Defensively the Saints have a top 8 team , offensively a different story they will need to find a extra 4 goals a game from some where with (1) ordinary key forward, to scrap into the finals series.

To me it looks as if "ross the boss" while be forced to play Marshall forward this season. Will be a juicy DPP come round 6.

 

[BIGB0Y]

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I’m not a Saints expert by any means, but they have recently signed Max King to an 8 year contract. Surely he is their first pick at FF.. Also Marshall is a better round the ground footballer than most rucks.. I can’t see him spending much less time in the middle.

100% agree, why would they put an untried ruckman in the AFL completely different ball game to SANFL as there main man in the middle, when you have in my opinion 2/3 best ruckman in the comp and leave him FF.

 

[Toothless Tigers]

I hope everyone has a wonderful festive season.

I am very bullish on Trezise, definitely a player to watch:



James Trezise of the Richmond Tigers AFL Games Played Stats

 

[Singapore Flyers]

I hope everyone has a wonderful festive season.

I am very bullish on Trezise, definitely a player to watch:
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James Trezise of the Richmond Tigers AFL Games Played Stats

What role do you see him playing? And do you know anything about K Smith? Early rumour was he was being tried into Dan Rioli’s role - which would be juicy for SC. But I am sure he would be one of a few options they would be trialing

 

[OnTopBar]

What role do you see him playing? And do you know anything about K Smith? Early rumour was he was being tried into Dan Rioli’s role - which would be juicy for SC. But I am sure he would be one of a few options they would be trialing

Smith, Trezise and Ralphsmith are all training with the backs so far

 

[Toothless Tigers]

Smith, Trezise and Ralphsmith are all training with the backs so far

He has a better disposal efficiency than Kaleb Smith or Hugo Ralphsmith.

Hugo Ralphsmith of the Richmond Tigers Career AFL Stats​

Kaleb Smith of the Richmond Tigers Career AFL Stats​

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[Toothless Tigers]

What are people's thoughts on:


Excerpt from AFL pre-season training notes 2024, SuperCoach AFL track watch | Herald Sun

 

[Singapore Flyers]

What are people's thoughts on:
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Excerpt from AFL pre-season training notes 2024, SuperCoach AFL track watch | Herald Sun
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He looked good when he debuted last year, but then was surprisingly dropped. With Battle and Bonner gone, there’s at least one spot. Travaglia might be his competition. Maybe Ross will want to have a look at both of them during the season - but that’s just a December guess from an outside observer. So it’s hard to know if they are locked in best 22. I feel that once you get into the mid 200 and higher price range you would want to be sure they are best 22, and that they would outscore a rookie who was 100k cheaper with similar job security