Discussion BBL|14: Preseason Discussion | OPEN!

[The Myth]

Sutherland, Neser, Buckingham, Maxi, Allen, Agar, Inglis and now Webster.

Just a few relevant players with big question marks just 2 weeks out.

 

[mike89]

Sutherland, Neser, Buckingham, Maxi, Allen, Agar, Inglis and now Webster.

Just a few relevant players with big question marks just 2 weeks out.

And this is why the day 1 team is a fool's errand.

(Unless you get one with $0 remaining of course...)

 

[The Myth]

And this is why the day 1 team is a fool's errand.

(Unless you get one with $0 remaining of course...)

I’ve found in the past, moreso with nrl, that pre-season iterations and different teams in context of current news ends up helping me make decisions through the season, particularly on rounds where I have less time dedicated to supercoach.

 

[Darkie]

“Plans are useless, but planning is indispensable!”

Dwight Eisenhower

 

[Diabolical]

Sutherland, Neser, Buckingham, Maxi, Allen, Agar, Inglis and now Webster.

Just a few relevant players with big question marks just 2 weeks out.

The more the watch list grows, the more Short looks like starting in my team. Though I think I would still prefer a double player and cash in the bank to get him R2 if needed.

 

[Shaunpro1]

The more the watch list grows, the more Short looks like starting in my team. Though I think I would still prefer a double player and cash in the bank to get him R2 if needed.

How much you can bank without sacrificing points in Round 1 is probably the question for me, dont think you could go without Short without something carried over though.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1862278287151833133

View: https://twitter.com/codecricketau/status/1862278287151833133

 

[Shaunpro1]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1862278287151833133

View: https://twitter.com/codecricketau/status/1862278287151833133

Management at his age concerns me but hes a better bowler still than any of their other quicks behind Curran.

 

[Tails]

Management at his age concerns me but hes a better bowler still than any of their other quicks behind Curran.

What do we think he will be priced at ??

- a great addition to their side IMO ...

 

[Diabolical]

What do we think he will be priced at ??

- a great addition to their side IMO ...

I will take a punt at guessing.

4 games last year and didn't bat in any.
Took 3 wickets (60 points)
Had two games where he would have got economy bonus, but over 7 rpo (10 points)
He bowled 12.4 overs for a 104 runs, so lets give him 10 dot balls (guessing)
So that is an average around 80/4 = 20 points per game
So I will guess somewhere around $60k

I think the bigger risk is what he means for rotations for Steketee or Paris types.

 

[Tails]

I will take a punt at guessing.

4 games last year and didn't bat in any.
Took 3 wickets (60 points)
Had two games where he would have got economy bonus, but over 7 rpo (10 points)
He bowled 12.4 overs for a 104 runs, so lets give him 10 dot balls (guessing)
So that is an average around 80/4 = 20 points per game
So I will guess somewhere around $60k

I think the bigger risk is what he means for rotations for Steketee or Paris types.

So you got me digging out some of my recorded stats ....

- last season:

- previous season:


So I guess it is wickets or not much ...

 

[Ben's Beasts]

Feel like it’s near impossible trying to put together a side right now with so many question marks over relevant players.

 

[Diabolical]

So you got me digging out some of my recorded stats ....

- last season:
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- previous season:
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So I guess it is wickets or not much ...

whoops ... 24.5 average, so maybe 70-75K?

Looks like the season before is a similar average.

Realistically, he is just a backup, so it is not about what he averages, but how he affects rotations.

 

[Shaunpro1]

I will take a punt at guessing.

4 games last year and didn't bat in any.
Took 3 wickets (60 points)
Had two games where he would have got economy bonus, but over 7 rpo (10 points)
He bowled 12.4 overs for a 104 runs, so lets give him 10 dot balls (guessing)
So that is an average around 80/4 = 20 points per game
So I will guess somewhere around $60k

I think the bigger risk is what he means for rotations for Steketee or Paris types.

I dont think any of them are going to be great picks to be honest, but I'll probably roll the dice on Sidds, should be cheap enough to spend most of the season on our benches

 

[Darkie]

I will take a punt at guessing.

4 games last year and didn't bat in any.
Took 3 wickets (60 points)
Had two games where he would have got economy bonus, but over 7 rpo (10 points)
He bowled 12.4 overs for a 104 runs, so lets give him 10 dot balls (guessing)
So that is an average around 80/4 = 20 points per game
So I will guess somewhere around $60k

I think the bigger risk is what he means for rotations for Steketee or Paris types.

It has been a little while, but from memory the dot ball percentage for a lot of premium bowlers is up towards/around 40%, especially for the quicks. [I think spinners are more likely to concede multiple singles in an over, but perhaps fewer boundaries.]

If I adjust your calcs to get up to Siddle’s last SC average, I think it implies c. 38% dot balls, which seems consistent.

At times I’ve struggled to reconcile how bowlers score as much as they do - most only generate c. 20-25 points from wickets each game, and don’t bat or necessarily take a lot of catches.

40% dot balls adds close to 10 ppg for those who bowl their full complement, and explains a lot of the apparent gap that I was struggling to understand.

 

[WoodyTea]

It has been a little while, but from memory the dot ball percentage for a lot of premium bowlers is up towards/around 40%, especially for the quicks. [I think spinners are more likely to concede multiple singles in an over, but perhaps fewer boundaries.]

If I adjust your calcs to get up to Siddle’s last SC average, I think it implies c. 38% dot balls, which seems consistent.

At times I’ve struggled to reconcile how bowlers score as much as they do - most only generate c. 20-25 points from wickets each game, and don’t bat or necessarily take a lot of catches.

40% dot balls adds close to 10 ppg for those who bowl their full complement, and explains a lot of the apparent gap that I was struggling to understand.

For the exact numbers of dot balls bowled I would recommend using BigBashBoard as its pretty reliable with the data being sourced from ESPNCricinfo. The main non SC suitability is that runouts are credited to both the fielder and player removing bails.

For Siddle he had a total of 32 dot balls across 76 deliveries in BBL13, approx. 42%.

 

[Diabolical]

Has anyone heard why Ashton Turner retired (assume hurt) in Perth grade cricket today?

From playHQ commentary …

 

[Darkie]

For the exact numbers of dot balls bowled I would recommend using BigBashBoard as its pretty reliable with the data being sourced from ESPNCricinfo. The main non SC suitability is that runouts are credited to both the fielder and player removing bails.

For Siddle he had a total of 32 dot balls across 76 deliveries in BBL13, approx. 42%.

Great pickup, thank you!

I usually use the match log and splits view (which are both super helpful) - meaning that I often skip the individual match pages … which I can now see include this info!

 

[FlatTrackBully]

Has anyone heard why Ashton Turner retired (assume hurt) in Perth grade cricket today?

From playHQ commentary …

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I had a look at the livestream and he went off grabbing at his side/lower back, don’t know much else other than that.

 

[Gumwah]

Joe Clarke playing for Cricket Victoria!

https://www.news.com.au/sport/crick...t/news-story/32fc2a9782f7286ef9252b5d3efcc24a