Analysis Chad Wingard

Will Chad Wingard be in your Initial SuperCoach Team in 2013?

  • 1. Locked

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 2. Likely

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • 3. Watch

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • 4. Unlikely

    Votes: 18 39.1%
  • 5. No

    Votes: 20 43.5%

  • Total voters
    46
  • Poll closed .

Impromptu

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Chad Wingard of Port Adelaide is my 2013 SuperCoach smokie. 6th in the 2011 draft with a solid 2012, Wingard could be a SuperCoach gem?

Name - Chad Wingard (PTA)
Position - MID
Price - $276,500
Draft - 6th overall (2011)
2012 Average - 51.7 (19)
2012 Average (non-sub) - 61.7 (13)
2012 Scores - 71, 41*, 42, 17*, 44, 46, 65, 73, 56, 21*, 55, 32*, 18*, 72, 62, 54, 51*, 87, 75
2013 Draw - MEL, GWS, ADE, GCS, WCE, NTH, RIC, CAR, GEE, WBD, BYE, GWS SYD ...

I am seriously considering Chad Wingard and for me it's a bit in left field. I don't normally pick mid-priced player who are positioned in the midfield. Furthermore, Wingard's 2012's statistics are not amazing. Even excluding the sub-effected games, Wingard average only jumps from 51.7 to 61.7. Then the question is why am I even writing an article about Wingard, let alone seriously considering picking Wingard in my initial team?

REASONS FOR

Potential is my main reasoning for considering Chad Wingard.

Wingard was the 6th overall draft pick and Port Adelaide's number 1 draft pick in 2011. Wingard played 19 of 22 games (noting the Bye), which is pretty impressive for a first year player. Wingard's workload appears to have been managed with 6 sub-effected games. While Wingard's average in the non-subbed effected games is only 10 points more than the sub-effected games, it's still a 10 points discount in terms of value.

In Wingard's last 5 non-sub effected games, he scored 72, 62, 54, 87 75, which is an average of 70. Generally, if you pay for a player at a price of 51.7 and get a return of 70, you probably wouldn't be complaining on a 'points per dollar' basis. The problem with this is Wingard would be taking a midfield spot from another player.

On the Port Adelaide Team Board on BigFooty a number of supporters have Wingard in their best 22 and some have Wingard playing in the Centre! The other benefit (and sorry Port Adelaide supporters) is that Wingard doesn't play for a strong club and thus has a decent chance of getting games and hopefully lots of game time.

Port Adelaide's draw also appears decent, namely they have MEL, GWS, GCS, NTH and RIC in their first 7 games, which may help Wingard's scoring.

While, I understand it is a bit of a risk picking Chad Wingard, I'll be watching him very carefully in the pre-season.

REASONS AGAINST

Wingard's price is a bit awkward when we don't know his ceiling.

The fact that Wingard has been subbed 6 of 19 games is a bit concerning, but I'm hoping it's because Port Adelaide were managing Wingard's workload in 2011.

Wingard is very 'left field' for me and probably on my Watch list, but I'm learning towards 'Likely' right now.

Verdict: LIKELY(2)
 

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I think his price is low enough, that the downside is all you lose is a little time, and a (this year) not so precious trade. His upside is he might average in the 80's, and fill M8 until the byes are done, and you can upgrade him. Gotta love a player whose upside heavily outweighs his downside. Having said that, he won't be in my team, but I will be looking for 1 or 2 similar types to round out my team. :)
 
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You've drank too much Chrissy drinks today....lol.. (the only explanation my sobering mind can come up for reading this tonight) I eased off way over 5 hours ago.... I won't be picking him...good luck with that one Jay.. out on a Wing and a prayer... He'd have to do something really special in pre-season glorified practice games for me to have a complete change of mind
 

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You've drank too much Chrissy drinks today....lol.. (the only explanation my sobering mind can come up for reading this tonight) I eased off way over 5 hours ago.... I won't be picking him...good luck with that one Jay.. out on a Wing and a prayer... He'd have to do something really special in pre-season glorified practice games for me to have a complete change of mind
LOL completely out in left field for me, but I'll be monitoring Port Adelaide's team board and Wingard's pre-season. For me, the supporters know a fair bit.
 

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The chadmeister has been in my side for a couple of weeks now which means it is fairly likely he will start there. I feel the risk of picking him is o***et by the 10 points his last years average was sub affected. The kid can play. The pre draft talk was that he could be anything. I didn't pick him last year mainly as I didn't have him in ports best 22 but I was wrong and he played 19 games. It doesn't hurt sometimes and go back to look at other players first year returns. Take any of jobe Watson, Gary ablett, Dane swan or alike and compare their first year numbers to chads. With there being no new team this year the number of midfield rookies playing a lot of games will be greatly reduced. Combine that with the fact we have eight spots to fill surely you can find one for this bloke.
 

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Would rather go for dom tyson at 299k. Priced at an average of 55.8, but averaged 73.3 when you take out his sub affected games.
 

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Yeah not bad. However how many games do you think Dom is in line for this year. Is he in line for a regular game?
 

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Yeah not bad. However how many games do you think Dom is in line for this year. Is he in line for a regular game?
I would imagine he would play all games. Think they just managed his workload in his first year to prime him for another preseason to prepare him for next year.
 

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I would imagine he would play all games. Think they just managed his workload in his first year to prime him for another preseason to prepare him for next year.
I think Sheedy will still be using his "lazy-susan" approach in 2013. It means players being dropped, just to rotate other players in, players being subbed, just to allow others more experience. Players playing out of position, to allow others more Midfield time. Phil Davis was the only player to play 22 games last season at GWS, then they had 4 players play 20 (Smith, Ward, Giles, Power). Expecting 22 games from any player is risky, expecting 22 from a GWS young player is pure folly!
 

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I think Sheedy will still be using his "lazy-susan" approach in 2013. It means players being dropped, just to rotate other players in, players being subbed, just to allow others more experience. Players playing out of position, to allow others more Midfield time. Phil Davis was the only player to play 22 games last season at GWS, then they had 4 players play 20 (Smith, Ward, Giles, Power). Expecting 22 games from any player is risky, expecting 22 from a GWS young player is pure folly!
22 games was probably a bit excessive but I reckon 18-20 could be on the cards. Might be rested towards the end of the season though
 

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Also add Danyle Pearce now out of the picture, Gray injured, Kornes ageing and Hartlett playing a slightly different role, he's going to play a major part in their midfield rotations. You could say with a fair bit of certainty, even if he didn't have the sub effected scores, he was going to increase in all numbers but with the discounted price, he'd be right up there as a second mid price mid behind Ball..and possibly ahead with his draw and lack of competition.
 

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He has only once scored over 80. Unless he absolutely tears it up in the nab cup its a no for me.
 
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i'll be interested if wingard is still on your radar considering you dont usually pick mpp's in the midfield. same dilemna i have with Embley. i want him but a rookie cash cow could be of more value? either way they'll both be upgraded...who makes the more money, embley or rookie?
 

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Well well well...this thread becomes more and more relevant.
 
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