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"Gold Coast coach Stuart Dew offered an upbeat assessment on Touk Miller who is out with a long-term knee injury. Dew said: “He’s very close. He’ll train today, and we anticipate within the next couple of weeks that he’ll put his hand up to play. He looks really strong. If you watch him train today, he looked like he can play. It’s getting to the pointy end of his rehab and we’re making sure he’s ready to go and we’re not rushing him.”
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"Gold Coast coach Stuart Dew offered an upbeat assessment on Touk Miller who is out with a long-term knee injury. Dew said: “He’s very close. He’ll train today, and we anticipate within the next couple of weeks that he’ll put his hand up to play. He looks really strong. If you watch him train today, he looked like he can play. It’s getting to the pointy end of his rehab and we’re making sure he’s ready to go and we’re not rushing him.”
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Yep, that's how I read it as well.
With they way the AFL describes conduct as 'careless' and then proceeds to list some Reportable Offences as specifically being against an opponent, while some are just against 'another person', it definitely looks like if he was to be cited, then he would get weeks off.
I'm sure the MRO will 'miss' it though when reviewing the match. The offence may be reportable, but that doesn't force them to actually make a report does it?
With they way the AFL describes conduct as 'careless' and then proceeds to list some Reportable Offences as specifically being against an opponent, while some are just against 'another person', it definitely looks like if he was to be cited, then he would get weeks off.
I'm sure the MRO will 'miss' it though when reviewing the match. The offence may be reportable, but that doesn't force them to actually make a report does it?
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Even media stating Rohan gets off.
Teammates reveal how Gary Rohan shrugged off Jeremy Cameron hit to become a matchwinner
Cats players reveal how Gary Rohan stood tall after an accidental hit knocked out teammate Jeremy Cameron. Plus, why he shouldn’t cop match review scrutiny.
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June 23, 2023 - 11:10AM
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GRAPHIC: Jeremy Cameron collides with Rohan
AFL: Geelong Cats star forward, Jeremy Cameron has collided with teammate Gary Rohan, resulting in the 30-year-old being stretchered off the field.
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Electric Geelong forward Gary Rohan should not face any match review scrutiny for his friendly fire collision with Jeremy Cameron as teammate Brad Close reveals how the Cats kept Rohan’s head in the game on Thursday night.
Gary Rohan shares care for injury teammate Jeremy Cameron. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Rohan accidentally knocked Cameron out with his shoulder in a marking contest in the first quarter of a win over Melbourne and could have come under the microscope if the incident had involved an opponent.
AFL laws state that a rough conduct charge is only “against an opponent”, not a teammate.
Rohan shrugged off the hit to boot three goals in a matchwinning effort, with coach Chris Scott describing him as the “most dangerous player on the ground”.
Gary Rohan chats with Brad Close. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
On a wet night Rohan’s contribution, which included a final-term goal in which he burnt off Melbourne star Steven May to help the Cats kick clear and set up the 15-point win, proved critical to the victory.
Forwardline teammate Brad Close said the Cats were keen to support Rohan as Cameron was stretchered from the field.
“He felt bad at the time and I don’t blame him, I reckon anyone would feel like that,” Close said.
“It’s not hard to be distracted by that and have a bad game and not stay focused.
“We kept saying to him, ‘you are a key player for us’ and I thought he was one of the best players on the ground.
“Some of his efforts in chasing and those three goals, I thought he was unbelievable.”
Gary Rohan celebrates his last quarter goal. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Defender Sam De Koning described Rohan as a “really sensitive bloke” who would have realised his importance to the team once Cameron was ruled out of the contest.
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“He is a really sensitive bloke and he really cares about his teammates so it would have affected him but footy is just footy and Gary attacks it 100 per cent of the time,” De Koning said.
“There is no way he wouldn’t do that for the rest of the game because he would know his importance to the forward line after ‘Jez’ was gone and it was really good to see his huge impact in winning us the game in the end.”
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Teammates reveal how Gary Rohan shrugged off Jeremy Cameron hit to become a matchwinner
Cats players reveal how Gary Rohan stood tall after an accidental hit knocked out teammate Jeremy Cameron. Plus, why he shouldn’t cop match review scrutiny.
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June 23, 2023 - 11:10AM
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GRAPHIC: Jeremy Cameron collides with Rohan
AFL: Geelong Cats star forward, Jeremy Cameron has collided with teammate Gary Rohan, resulting in the 30-year-old being stretchered off the field.
View more related videos
Electric Geelong forward Gary Rohan should not face any match review scrutiny for his friendly fire collision with Jeremy Cameron as teammate Brad Close reveals how the Cats kept Rohan’s head in the game on Thursday night.
Gary Rohan shares care for injury teammate Jeremy Cameron. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Rohan accidentally knocked Cameron out with his shoulder in a marking contest in the first quarter of a win over Melbourne and could have come under the microscope if the incident had involved an opponent.
AFL laws state that a rough conduct charge is only “against an opponent”, not a teammate.
Rohan shrugged off the hit to boot three goals in a matchwinning effort, with coach Chris Scott describing him as the “most dangerous player on the ground”.
Gary Rohan chats with Brad Close. Picture: Dylan Burns/AFL Photos via Getty Images
On a wet night Rohan’s contribution, which included a final-term goal in which he burnt off Melbourne star Steven May to help the Cats kick clear and set up the 15-point win, proved critical to the victory.
Forwardline teammate Brad Close said the Cats were keen to support Rohan as Cameron was stretchered from the field.
“He felt bad at the time and I don’t blame him, I reckon anyone would feel like that,” Close said.
“It’s not hard to be distracted by that and have a bad game and not stay focused.
“We kept saying to him, ‘you are a key player for us’ and I thought he was one of the best players on the ground.
“Some of his efforts in chasing and those three goals, I thought he was unbelievable.”
Gary Rohan celebrates his last quarter goal. Picture: Michael Willson/AFL Photos via Getty Images
Defender Sam De Koning described Rohan as a “really sensitive bloke” who would have realised his importance to the team once Cameron was ruled out of the contest.
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“He is a really sensitive bloke and he really cares about his teammates so it would have affected him but footy is just footy and Gary attacks it 100 per cent of the time,” De Koning said.
“There is no way he wouldn’t do that for the rest of the game because he would know his importance to the forward line after ‘Jez’ was gone and it was really good to see his huge impact in winning us the game in the end.”
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March 14, 2023 - NEWS.com.au
"..........The AFL has been hit by an unprecedented class action lawsuit with 60 players coming forward with suggestions of a $120 million legal scrap........."
Will Cameron make it 61?
Now that ex-players are suing, and body protection won't stop concussions, then I can't see any other way the AFL can go but keep changing the rules, to remove heavy contact to a player's head, teammate or opponent.
"The Times They Are a-Changin'" and there is little we can do to stop it.
"..........The AFL has been hit by an unprecedented class action lawsuit with 60 players coming forward with suggestions of a $120 million legal scrap........."
Will Cameron make it 61?
Now that ex-players are suing, and body protection won't stop concussions, then I can't see any other way the AFL can go but keep changing the rules, to remove heavy contact to a player's head, teammate or opponent.
"The Times They Are a-Changin'" and there is little we can do to stop it.
Love this discussion. I don't think Rohan should be cited, although the above analysis is excellent.
What I really hope is this incident is used over and over again to demonstrate the absurdity of the AFL's recent approach on accidental / incident contact between opponents.
As usual, the AFL will get themselves tangled up in knots leading to even more absurd rules and outcomes....
Sigh
What I really hope is this incident is used over and over again to demonstrate the absurdity of the AFL's recent approach on accidental / incident contact between opponents.
As usual, the AFL will get themselves tangled up in knots leading to even more absurd rules and outcomes....
Sigh
I'd be pretty sure the AFL won't charge Rohan, as rule A says they can, but rule B says they can't. If they charged him, it would get thrown out if it went to court.
In the off season they will reword (again!) the wording of that section of their rules. It will remove the contradictory wording, and it will allow them to charge an incident like Rohan's. When asked by the media, if this rewording was to open that door, they will give a very non-committal "We just needed to remove some anomalies" type answer.
While I don't want to see players charged for incidents like this, it just gets up my nose, that if Rohan was wearing a Melbourne jumper, the only discussion would be does he get 3 weeks or 4. The attitude of this is not acceptable, under any circumstances, accidental or not, ........ oh wait, unless he's wearing the same jumper, has given the AFL no wiggle room. No, this was unfortunate, but it was in play and totally accidental. Now, there are no accidents, if you wear a different jumper. No unfortunate events.
The AFL have once again painted themselves into a sticky corner! They actually need to make some sort of statement on this, otherwise when a similar incident occurs, but involving an opposition player, they can mount a "but Rohan had no case to answer" defense.
The other thing that gets up my nose, is that their hard line on incidents involving the head is not, and will not, result in that many fewer concussions. Therefore, it is not protecting them from future litigation, so why ruin the game???!!!
Did you know, if you go to a golf tournament, and get hit by a ball, you cannot sue? It is seen as an implied risk that you have willingly undertaken. I'm sure that will be a part of the AFL's defense in the class action suit. I mentioned this over a year ago now, but it will probably soon happen, that each and every game, all players will need to sign a waiver, saying they accept the implied risk. This will clear the AFL from most cases where they might be sued, and only leave the player to sue the perpetrator, if the action is seen as reckless or intentional. If Cameron suffers long term affects from this incidence, he could sue Rohan, and Rohan would need to hope the Clubs insurance somehow covers it.
"It's political correctness gone mad". Unfortunately, society has gone too far towards the option, that others need to be responsible for the risks I take, and the actions I do. The reason why they have warnings on packets of peanuts on planes, "open first, then eat". We are legislating for idiots, where we should just be hoping Darwin's Rule will thin the idiots out!!!!
In the off season they will reword (again!) the wording of that section of their rules. It will remove the contradictory wording, and it will allow them to charge an incident like Rohan's. When asked by the media, if this rewording was to open that door, they will give a very non-committal "We just needed to remove some anomalies" type answer.
While I don't want to see players charged for incidents like this, it just gets up my nose, that if Rohan was wearing a Melbourne jumper, the only discussion would be does he get 3 weeks or 4. The attitude of this is not acceptable, under any circumstances, accidental or not, ........ oh wait, unless he's wearing the same jumper, has given the AFL no wiggle room. No, this was unfortunate, but it was in play and totally accidental. Now, there are no accidents, if you wear a different jumper. No unfortunate events.
The AFL have once again painted themselves into a sticky corner! They actually need to make some sort of statement on this, otherwise when a similar incident occurs, but involving an opposition player, they can mount a "but Rohan had no case to answer" defense.
The other thing that gets up my nose, is that their hard line on incidents involving the head is not, and will not, result in that many fewer concussions. Therefore, it is not protecting them from future litigation, so why ruin the game???!!!
Did you know, if you go to a golf tournament, and get hit by a ball, you cannot sue? It is seen as an implied risk that you have willingly undertaken. I'm sure that will be a part of the AFL's defense in the class action suit. I mentioned this over a year ago now, but it will probably soon happen, that each and every game, all players will need to sign a waiver, saying they accept the implied risk. This will clear the AFL from most cases where they might be sued, and only leave the player to sue the perpetrator, if the action is seen as reckless or intentional. If Cameron suffers long term affects from this incidence, he could sue Rohan, and Rohan would need to hope the Clubs insurance somehow covers it.
"It's political correctness gone mad". Unfortunately, society has gone too far towards the option, that others need to be responsible for the risks I take, and the actions I do. The reason why they have warnings on packets of peanuts on planes, "open first, then eat". We are legislating for idiots, where we should just be hoping Darwin's Rule will thin the idiots out!!!!
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Whilst I don’t think it will even get looked at ( due to it being his teammate) …..I think it’s the action that warrants a review….give it 10 seconds later and Rohan could have cleaned up the Melbourne defender …then we would look at four weeks….
Its still a poor action from Rohan that needs to be pulled up….but it won’t be….all we will get is silence from the AFL
Its still a poor action from Rohan that needs to be pulled up….but it won’t be….all we will get is silence from the AFL
