Position Midfielder Discussion

Who are your likely 3 starters post Marsh 1...?

  • Macrae

    Votes: 74 69.2%
  • Neale

    Votes: 57 53.3%
  • Fyfe

    Votes: 21 19.6%
  • Kelly

    Votes: 26 24.3%
  • Cripps

    Votes: 58 54.2%
  • Dunkley

    Votes: 26 24.3%
  • Titch

    Votes: 20 18.7%
  • Danger

    Votes: 25 23.4%
  • Bont

    Votes: 25 23.4%
  • Oliver

    Votes: 35 32.7%

  • Total voters
    107

Darkie

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Sorry I should have been a bit clearer - I meant mid-pricers at all positions but you mentioned some of those in other positions anyway.

I've got 4 premo mids atm and not a lot of change left even without starting Grawndy.
Interesting - have you gone quite deep up forward/down back, or are you picking the top priced premos?
 

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Ok a bit of a left field pick but any interest in Angus Brayshaw? I know he burnt quite a few last year and is probably part of numerous never again lists but Melbourne recruited 2 wingman over the trade period so should slot back into the guts presumably? Interested to hear Melbourne supporters view on him
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I’m beginning to question whether I can actually start Oliver based on my bye structure and now have him out of my team. I had a 4 - 7 - 3 bye structure for rounds 12,13,14 so I’ve downgraded Doedee to Stephen Hill and turned Oliver into Macrae changing it to a 4- 6 - 4 structure.

Last year my starting structure was 3 - 6 - 5 structure and it played a huge part in allowing me to fly up the ranks during the byes.

The round 13 bye has 4 absolute locks in Docherty, Cripps, Gawn and Grundy and I don’t know how to get around this, having 7 players with that bye and only 3 with the last bye cant be good.

I do have Tom Lynch from Richmond at F3 and if Jack Steven turns out to be the better option I’ll be able to get Oliver as Steven has the R12 bye and Lynch the R13 bye.

Last year it was pretty easy to coordinate around the byes and to pick the team I really wanted to start but this year the round 13 bye has the Carlton boys, Grawndy and Dusty/Heeney.
 

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I’m beginning to question whether I can actually start Oliver based on my bye structure and now have him out of my team. I had a 4 - 7 - 3 bye structure for rounds 12,13,14 so I’ve downgraded Doedee to Stephen Hill and turned Oliver into Macrae changing it to a 4- 6 - 4 structure.

Last year my starting structure was 3 - 6 - 5 structure and it played a huge part in allowing me to fly up the ranks during the byes.

The round 13 bye has 4 absolute locks in Docherty, Cripps, Gawn and Grundy and I don’t know how to get around this, having 7 players with that bye and only 3 with the last bye cant be good.

I do have Tom Lynch from Richmond at F3 and if Jack Steven turns out to be the better option I’ll be able to get Oliver as Steven has the R12 bye and Lynch the R13 bye.

Last year it was pretty easy to coordinate around the byes and to pick the team I really wanted to start but this year the round 13 bye has the Carlton boys, Grawndy and Dusty/Heeney.
This is a good point, I haven’t looked at byes in detail yet.

Thinking aloud/devil’s advocate, is Cripps necessarily a lock over Oliver?

- Oliver plays more games. Would have actually beaten Cripps on total points 2 years out of the last 3 (albeit not necessarily on a PIT basis).
- I think it’s clear Oliver is discounted. Less clear cut to me that Cripps is.
- It looks like Teague took over in R12, and Cripps’ scoring became more volatile - not necessarily lower, but more volatile. He basically went big (115+) and then small (close to 80) in alternating fashion from the time Teague took over. I’ve noted previously that Cripps tends not to have two bad games in a row, which would be worse again for his price, but is it possible that Cripps could be a viable upgrade target if he scores less consistently? Oliver is super consistent which means he’s probably a safe starter, but also one that probably won’t really punish you (unless you think he’s really discounted).

Might depend on who your other VC/C options were, and whether the extra cash was helpful.
 
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This is a good point, I haven’t looked at byes in detail yet.

Thinking aloud/devil’s advocate, is Cripps necessarily a lock over Oliver?

- Oliver plays more games. Would have actually beaten Cripps on total points 2 years out of the last 3 (albeit not necessarily on a PIT basis).
- I think it’s clear Oliver is discounted. Less clear cut to me that Cripps is.
- It looks like Teague took over in R12, and Cripps’ scoring became more volatile - not necessarily lower, but more volatile. He basically went big (115+) and then small (close to 80) in alternating fashion from the time Teague took over. I’ve noted previously that Cripps tends not to have two bad games in a row, which would be worse again for his price, but is it possible that Cripps could be a viable upgrade target if he scores less consistently? Oliver is super consistent which means he’s probably a safe starter, but also one that probably won’t really punish you (unless you think he’s really discounted).

Might depend on who your other VC/C options were, and whether the extra cash was helpful.
Yeah it’s a decent point and Cripps is more injury prone. Cripps isn’t discounted but has a higher ceiling (you’d think a 125-130 avg is possible for him)

I think Cripps was playing injured late in the year which is why he was volatile.
I don’t want to not start and Cripps and be forced to get him before his bye, which might happen if he’s going crazy. With Oliver I don’t think I’ll be too hurt not having him so I can get him post bye. I think I’ll get Dusty in pretty early on and wouldn’t want 8 guys with the same bye which would occur if I felt like I needed Cripps. Lloyd also has that bye so hopefully he doesn’t hurt me too much either
 
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Yeah it’s a decent point and Cripps is more injury prone. Cripps isn’t discounted but has a higher ceiling (you’d think a 125-130 avg is possible for him)

I think Cripps was playing injured late in the year which is why he was volatile.
I don’t want to not start and Cripps and be forced to get him before his bye, which might happen if he’s going crazy. With Oliver I don’t think I’ll be too hurt not having him so I can get him post bye. I think I’ll get Dusty in pretty early on and wouldn’t want 8 guys with the same bye which would occur if I felt like I needed Cripps. Lloyd also has that bye so hopefully he doesn’t hurt me too much either
Add that Fyfe also has that bye! What a bye! & Walters if options are especially sparse up forward ! Boy oh boy woweee
 
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I agree out of these two. I think Fyfe is pretty much priced at his maximum, I'd prefer him as an upgrade.
I might not be taking either, but if I do, it’s more likely to be Fyfe because I think he is a better vc/c option ie I think he has the potential to go bigger most weeks.
 
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Jarryd Lyons @ 530k?

Back end of the year was very good when Brisbane ran with he and Neale for basically 2/3 CBAs

It looks like he established himself pretty well in the inside bulldog role to protect the younger mids in McCluggage and Berry etc & if Brisbane look like continuing this then may be worth a look.
 
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Jarryd Lyons @ 530k?

Back end of the year was very good when Brisbane ran with he and Neale for basically 2/3 CBAs

It looks like he established himself pretty well in the inside bulldog role to protect the younger mids in McCluggage and Berry etc & if Brisbane look like continuing this then may be worth a look.

Geez didn't realise he averaged 116.5 post his bye!
I honestly couldn't see him in my side but that is still pretty impressive.
 
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Shouldn't pick Lyons for the same reason that I have my doubts about Neale going huuuge again. Reason: CEY. Contested ball winning beast.
 
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