Strategy Round 2: Trades

[quite ironic]

I think Balta just has to go this week. You don't want to wait to get rid of him. Never know when you'll need to use those 2 weekly trades. I doubt Balta will be a good enough scorer to justify keeping him. He duped us all in the pre-season.

The only issue is that there aren't really any options. Burgess is a shocking scorer but has good JS. Petruccelle looks a decent scorer but I doubt he'll last much longer in the WCE team - they have a few to come back. Schultz got on the end of a few in R1 but I doubt his JS is good and his scoring output doesn't seem great either... but you can make a quick 6k off him at least.

Think I might just go Burgess. Even if he's only going to score 40-50 each week at least he'll be playing, and he provides a DPP link with Moore which might come in handy. Who knows, maybe he'll produce a 4 goal, 80 point game somewhere along the way.

I am thinking the same although I reckon I might hold the trade.

Even if Balta doesn’t play, he’s still going to be a loophole option for a few weeks and if you are like me and have Setterfield F5, Drew F6 and Parker F7 it doesn’t even really matter as he’ll just be sitting there on the bench.

There should be a week where you don’t NEED to trade and another forward rookie with 1 or 2 games who’s much better than the awful options available now (Burgess, Petro, Schultz) comes up and even if it takes 4-5 weeks, Balta may come back in or even if he doesn’t provides a loophole option from rounds 3 onwards.

 

[Juzzo]

I think Balta just has to go this week. You don't want to wait to get rid of him. Never know when you'll need to use those 2 weekly trades. I doubt Balta will be a good enough scorer to justify keeping him. He duped us all in the pre-season.

The only issue is that there aren't really any options. Burgess is a shocking scorer but has good JS. Petruccelle looks a decent scorer but I doubt he'll last much longer in the WCE team - they have a few to come back. Schultz got on the end of a few in R1 but I doubt his JS is good and his scoring output doesn't seem great either... but you can make a quick 6k off him at least.

Think I might just go Burgess. Even if he's only going to score 40-50 each week at least he'll be playing, and he provides a DPP link with Moore which might come in handy. Who knows, maybe he'll produce a 4 goal, 80 point game somewhere along the way.

Balta no good for loop this week either.
At least Shultz has some upside with only 58DE, and Ballantyne out for 3.

 

[EyeloveRichmond]

I think Balta just has to go this week. You don't want to wait to get rid of him. Never know when you'll need to use those 2 weekly trades. I doubt Balta will be a good enough scorer to justify keeping him. He duped us all in the pre-season.

The only issue is that there aren't really any options. Burgess is a shocking scorer but has good JS. Petruccelle looks a decent scorer but I doubt he'll last much longer in the WCE team - they have a few to come back. Schultz got on the end of a few in R1 but I doubt his JS is good and his scoring output doesn't seem great either... but you can make a quick 6k off him at least.

Think I might just go Burgess. Even if he's only going to score 40-50 each week at least he'll be playing, and he provides a DPP link with Moore which might come in handy. Who knows, maybe he'll produce a 4 goal, 80 point game somewhere along the way.

Burgess is a slug

 

[bomberboy]

Burgess is a slug

Source?

 

[EyeloveRichmond]

Source?

Google, my own eyes & a few other sources i have to keep close to my chest

 

[Bomber18]

@Bomber18 - are you not concerned something else will pop up next week and mean you cant make the structural change at all? Trading this week carries risk no doubt, but so does waiting (probably slightly less risk) - buuuut a correct trade this week offers way more upside.

Ive got Libba and Ridley.

A trade this week to Duursma (hats off port rookies who on one week data - yes yes 1 week - are likely to outperform what i was thinking) and Rocky, makes plenty of sense in my view. Gives me the option next week to then completely pick off rookies I want/need.

Alternatively, I wait and in all likelihood get to choose between rookies or Rocky. Imagine Schultz hits a ton v GCS and Joyce gets a 90. Im gonna need both of them.

In regards to why Rocky? I get the qn in the sense "is he top 8 mid" (you'd think not) but there are about 6 players in the whole comp (and none under 550k) who can conceivably av 130 for 5 weeks. That first week says he is fit (8 tackles) and the port game plan (yep no wines) can accommodate his style. You would think Ken aint gonna change much this next week or two....plus he has history v the blues.

To me the trade looks like a near no-brainer.

That said I have what I think is an easy out (libba in SC). In RDT (arguably his better format) my mids are Macrae, Cogs, Brayshaw, Treloar, BCrouch and Tarranto. Getting him there is a whole different story...and arguably far less of a 'good idea'. Im sure others have this issue in SC and that aint no easy fix.

If I was hoping Libba was a stepping stone, then I see Rocky as a launching pad. There isn't another player anywhere near his price who might get me to Nathan "No JLT" Fyfe quicker in the comp...

You make a strong case for trading Rocky in this week which I can’t disagree with (given that I own him and picked him solely for his games against the Blues and Lions).

My main point was that there were reasons for not picking him despite the 170 in JLT2 and the fact that he would be playing the Blues and Lions in R2 and R3 is not new information. You would really need to question what has changed for you with the 140 in R1.

More confidence that he is fully fit? Possibly.

I still think he’s stiil a bit of a start or forget pick.

So I think if people want to bring him in at all, this week makes more sense than next, but you should also be fully prepared to trade him out if the time comes, at first trouble.

People may also need to consider their overall risk profile in their side with keepers / midpricers. Rocky should have a trade reserved against him.

Also need to question if he’s worth two trades possibly (getting him in and out) as he would really need to spike to 550k to be worthwhile as a trade in. Not the end of the world if u start him and he stagnates at high 400ks as a starting pick (or gets injured before spiking).

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For myself, I definitely need one more week of data before I can commit to my targets (or even trade out Brouch). I also can’t bring Scott in without trading out Brouch so although it would be good preparation for next week to trade Collins, just can’t do it unfortunately.

I’ll have to miss out on Joyce/Schultz/Wilkie types if they turn out to be good rookies. Have Balta too but I’m happy enough to hold for now.

 

[WindyHillWizard]

Really thinking hard about trading Brayshaw to Rocky this week to pocket $120K plus achieve higher output.

Question I keep coming back to however is can I see Rocky in my final team? I think there is probably less than a 50% chance of that happening due to potential injuries and reduced scoring as the season progresses.

FOMO however is a powerful force that can override logic.

 

[stephen]

Do not understand the logic of trading Balta out to a rookie you have no particular interest in (Burgess).

He was picked for RD1, has been discussed as a Rance replacement and is an emergency this week. Who knows what will happen but he's near the front of the queue.

If he doesn't come back then you trade him when there's someone good to trade him to, or when you need to avoid a donut.

 

[Crabby Skills]

Wanted to go Heeney -> Worpel & Hanley -> Newman since Sunday night... and I'm going to do it boys and girls.

All my good angels are telling me there isn't a more amateur move I could make!

But I'm in the deep end now, and it's going to happen.

 

[jarveg]

Really thinking hard about trading Brayshaw to Rocky this week to pocket $120K plus achieve higher output.

Question I keep coming back to however is can I see Rocky in my final team? I think there is probably less than a 50% chance of that happening due to potential injuries and reduced scoring as the season progresses.

FOMO however is a powerful force that can override logic.

100 % agree with this. I am thinking B Crouch to Rocky. I wrote off his JLT2 score as pigging out on a glorified training drill, but the 8 tackles and big score against Oliver, Brayshaw, Jones, Viney, et al has really got me thinking I might need to switch mid price horses.......

 

[Bomber18]

Do not understand the logic of trading Balta out to a rookie you have no particular interest in (Burgess).

He was picked for RD1, has been discussed as a Rance replacement and is an emergency this week. Who knows what will happen but he's near the front of the queue.

If he doesn't come back then you trade him when there's someone good to trade him to, or when you need to avoid a donut.

I’d rather Balta as a loophole for a random Parker 80+ rather than spend a trade for Burgess who might only make $60k

 

[Ricky Bobby]

I’d rather Balta as a loophole for a random Parker 80+ rather than spend a trade for Burgess who might only make $60k

I agree with this. Won’t work for loophole this week, but I like the idea. Also, I have Burgess for his DPP with Moore but his score on the weekend was rubbish and I have no confidence in him. I certainly wouldn’t be wasting a trade to bring him in.

 

[Tails]

Do not understand the logic of trading Balta out to a rookie you have no particular interest in (Burgess).

He was picked for RD1, has been discussed as a Rance replacement and is an emergency this week. Who knows what will happen but he's near the front of the queue.

If he doesn't come back then you trade him when there's someone good to trade him to, or when you need to avoid a donut.

Agree with this ... RIC is a tough team to break into at the best of times but I think people forget that Higgo only played 5 of the first 9 games or (3 of the first 6) last year before getting his run.

Might purely come down to match ups this week .. who knows, but FWD line rookie priced players are thin enough as it is ...

 

[Bomber18]

I agree with this. Won’t work for loophole this week, but I like the idea. Also, I have Burgess for his DPP with Moore but his score on the weekend was rubbish and I have no confidence in him. I certainly wouldn’t be wasting a trade to bring him in.

I think if you had Balta but no Parker, trading him this week makes sense. But if you have Balta, Parker (I’m sure many do), I’m not convinced a trade to Burgess/Petruccelle/Schultz is worth it. All scored average.

 

[Yasi]

100 % agree with this. I am thinking B Crouch to Rocky. I wrote off his JLT2 score as pigging out on a glorified training drill, but the 8 tackles and big score against Oliver, Brayshaw, Jones, Viney, et al has really got me thinking I might need to switch mid price horses.......

I have B Crouch and am interested in what it was about his game last week that would make you want to jump ship? His role seems exactly what we had expected and I think most would’ve had Adelaide winning more games than Port this year prior to the weekends games. Not sure i’d move that mountain to grab Rocky yet.

 

[Bomber18]

I have B Crouch and am interested in what it was about his game last week that would make you want to jump ship? His role seems exactly what we had expected and I think most would’ve had Adelaide winning more games than Port this year prior to the weekends games. Not sure i’d move that mountain to grab Rocky yet.

Yeah Brouch wasn’t too bad at all. Poor DE robbed him from a good score but probably expected in a loss. Crows still have easy games to come. I’m hoping he can give me good reason to force me to hold him next round. I can see myself really regretting trading him out from R5 onwards when the draw opens up.

 

[doc ron]

Really thinking hard about trading Brayshaw to Rocky this week to pocket $120K plus achieve higher output.

Question I keep coming back to however is can I see Rocky in my final team? I think there is probably less than a 50% chance of that happening due to potential injuries and reduced scoring as the season progresses.

FOMO however is a powerful force that can override logic.

FOMO is without a doubt the strongest force in supercoach, with about 90% overiding logical decisions. The 10% who don't let it influence them will usually end up at the pointy end. Unfortunately I'm not one of those, so welcome to the Badboys (again) Rocky. Please don't burn me again.

 

[Ben's Beasts]

On Balta, for those who have him and wish to keep him and also have the three other most popular fwd rookies in Drew, Setterfield and Parker, you will be able to use him for looping purposes in rounds 3, 5, 7, 8, 9 and 10. Unless of course you have traded any of those players mentioned before any of those rounds or if Balta comes back into the Richmond side.

Not bad at all.

 

[McLovin]

Only other things I’m considering are Collins to Wilkie/Joyce

Feel like I’ll do one of the above this week and then 2 next week (one of these and possibly Darling or B.Crouch out).

Are you really considering getting rid of Darling on the back of one game they lost quite badly and in which he had Andrews land on his knee? A 75 isn't unexpected from a key forward, you're picking him because he could double that next week.

 

[jobeywatto]

I think if you had Balta but no Parker, trading him this week makes sense. But if you have Balta, Parker (I’m sure many do), I’m not convinced a trade to Burgess/Petruccelle/Schultz is worth it. All scored average.

Balta barely played 50% gametime and still looked cooked in the 4th quarter. I don't think he has the conditioning to play AFL just yet. Once Grigg comes back that's their 2nd ruck option sorted, and they hardly need another tall forward. Very likely we don't see him again this year.

Like, who is this superstar forward rookie that everyone is waiting for? One might appear down the line, but by then you've had a bloke rot on your bench not making money for the last 3-4 weeks. His only use is as a loophole but that's a pretty flimsy reason to keep a non-playing rookie IMO.

Burgess, Pet and Schultz may not be great options but at least they're playing. Even if Burgess only goes up 80k, that's 80k more than you'd have if you stick with Balta.