Strategy Round 2: Trades

If you are a Dangerfield owner, what are you doing with him this round?

  • Trade

    Votes: 101 77.1%
  • Hold

    Votes: 30 22.9%

  • Total voters
    131

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Grundy and Cripps on notice this week, and too a lesser extent Gawn. Jordon is the only Round 1 rookie that I have missed, and have sufficient funds to turn McNeil into Jordon either this week or next, depending on how the performances of Cripps and Grundy look early in the round.

If I was to trade Dangerfield this week, options include Walsh, Martin, Dunkley and Mitchell, with Ridley (already 4 Premium DEFs + Clark) and Taranto also options but maybe slightly less as enticing as the former three.

I'd love to go straight to Titch, but would want to get some clarity on how his ribs have pulled up after Saturday.
I notice everyone is referring to the old 3rd week price changes. I presume I just missed something where they said this was returning?
 
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Normally try to avoid Round 2 trades but might have to this year.

Danger > someone if 2+ weeks, Walsh my current feel

Don't think Jordon is a must yet, so won't go early on him.

Daniher my other "issue" but doubt he gets suspended so should hold for now. I hate key position players, at least was too expensive in DT/AF... which I care way less about than SC though! Haha
I’m leaning Danger > Bowes via JordAn Clark

I considered Bowes in the pre-season, with Luko seemingly moving out of defence. Has a monopoly on the kick-ins. Hopefully GC chip it around a lot like Round 1, but that could’ve been more of a WCE and/or weather influence.

It also gives me $$ for Round 3 trades, with a few mid-pricers I may need to decide on (Nank/Daniher/Atkins)

I have cold feet on Walsh since he got 7 clearances in Round 1 I believe, with Zac Williams incoming for Round 2

I am still wanting to avoid Dunkley/Macrae (don’t have enough cash for Macrae anyway) and Mitchell still has the issue of pre-season /being an inside mid.
 
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I’m leaning Danger > Bowes via JordAn Clark

I considered Bowes in the pre-season, with Luko seemingly moving out of defence. Has a monopoly on the kick-ins. Hopefully GC chip it around a lot like Round 1, but that could’ve been more of a WCE and/or weather influence.

It also gives me $$ for Round 3 trades, with a few mid-pricers I may need to decide on (Nank/Daniher/Atkins)

I have cold feet on Walsh since he got 7 clearances in Round 1 I believe, with Zac Williams incoming for Round 2

I am still wanting to avoid Dunkley/Macrae (don’t have enough cash for Macrae anyway) and Mitchell still has the issue of pre-season /being an inside mid.
Seems a bit speculative to me. You're sacrificing a 620k expected top scorer on his line for a player who'll need a very good season to finish to 10 on his line on the basis of one game in which both sides just chipped it around for the most part.
 
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Seems a bit speculative to me. You're sacrificing a 620k expected top scorer on his line for a player who'll need a very good season to finish to 10 on his line on the basis of one game in which both sides just chipped it around for the most part.
Dangerfield has to go, no doubt. Danger > Dusty would be the way to go for most, I already have Dusty though.

If I had confidence in Dunkley, I think that's pretty straight forward too, but I am still not convinced he will be a top 6 forward like most.

The midfield premiums all have unknowns, especially with less stoppages, so I am interested in a defender premium with the style of play in 2021 seemingly benefitting rebound players.

Mills/Laird - play midfield, Laird is definitely the safer play over Bowes, but I might as well pick an actual midfielder premium if I am going to pick a midfielder imo.

Bailey Williams - Another sneaky/speculative play, but he has Daniel to contend with.

Ridley/Stewart/Short/Daniel/Houston - Already have these 5. Houston may be one I can ditch later in the year (potentially to Lloyd) if he doesn't quite reach top 8 defenders.

Lloyd - Can't afford him anyway, but hopefully drops in price at some stage.


I honestly think Bowes can fit into the top 10 defenders (hopefully higher) with Ridley/Stewart/Short/Daniel/Lloyd/Laird the likely top 6, Mills/Bowes/Ryan/Hurn the others I could see pushing in.

Bowes has increased his averages every year, 48 > 63 > 71 > 84 > ?
I really like his role in the team, his role in terms of the new rules, age, durability is ok (17/17 last year)
 
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I'm still confused by the medical sub, are they allowed to play the next week or do they get a 12 day break as well??
The medical sub should only be used if in the club doctor's assessment the injury will force the player to not play again in the following 12 days based on the clinical evidence available at the time. Any player replaced by the medical sub would effectively be expected to be out injured for their club's next match, unless the AFL grants an exemption on the grounds that the club doctor made a reasonable assessment on the day, but the player's injury was not as serious as first thought after follow-up examination (eg. scans, seeing a specialist, etc) and/or they have recovered more quickly than expected in the following days.

This will be an early litmus test to see if Geelong can get an exemption, but when I saw Menegola get hurt I thought he'd be out for a month as it didn't look good and he was in a lot of pain so I don't think there's anything suss there.
 
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Dangerfield has to go, no doubt. Danger > Dusty would be the way to go for most, I already have Dusty though.

If I had confidence in Dunkley, I think that's pretty straight forward too, but I am still not convinced he will be a top 6 forward like most.

The midfield premiums all have unknowns, especially with less stoppages, so I am interested in a defender premium with the style of play in 2021 seemingly benefitting rebound players.

Mills/Laird - play midfield, Laird is definitely the safer play over Bowes, but I might as well pick an actual midfielder premium if I am going to pick a midfielder imo.

Bailey Williams - Another sneaky/speculative play, but he has Daniel to contend with.

Ridley/Stewart/Short/Daniel/Houston - Already have these 5. Houston may be one I can ditch later in the year (potentially to Lloyd) if he doesn't quite reach top 8 defenders.

Lloyd - Can't afford him anyway, but hopefully drops in price at some stage.


I honestly think Bowes can fit into the top 10 defenders (hopefully higher) with Ridley/Stewart/Short/Daniel/Lloyd/Laird the likely top 6, Mills/Bowes/Ryan/Hurn the others I could see pushing in.

Bowes has increased his averages every year, 48 > 63 > 71 > 84 > ?
I really like his role in the team, his role in terms of the new rules, age, durability is ok (17/17 last year)
If you've already got 5 premium defenders, that's very early in the season to complete that line. I guess it depends whether you think it makes your team too unbalanced.
 
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Just went through my notes , started talking about Bowes in Round 12 last season 🤔

With all the possibilities up forward (McDonald/Warner , Rowe) + Dunkley , Dusty , Zorko + Ziebell a defender (for Danger via Sharp & Campbell) maybe a defender is actually a better balance than Heeney

decisions , decisions

then means I field 3 premiums + Ziebell with Campbell & Rowe

where does McDonald/Warner then fit ?
 
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I’m leaning Danger > Bowes via JordAn Clark

I considered Bowes in the pre-season, with Luko seemingly moving out of defence. Has a monopoly on the kick-ins. Hopefully GC chip it around a lot like Round 1, but that could’ve been more of a WCE and/or weather influence.

It also gives me $$ for Round 3 trades, with a few mid-pricers I may need to decide on (Nank/Daniher/Atkins)

I have cold feet on Walsh since he got 7 clearances in Round 1 I believe, with Zac Williams incoming for Round 2

I am still wanting to avoid Dunkley/Macrae (don’t have enough cash for Macrae anyway) and Mitchell still has the issue of pre-season /being an inside mid.
Just on this, it was 36 degrees here in Perth on Sunday - I have no doubt WCE were concerned about the speed of the suns (WCE have an older list also) so with the heat/ reduced interchanges they were quite happy to let the suns chip the ball around in the back half as they flooded back/ played a real zone defence from about the centreline onwards. Seemed like they were very wary of the suns breaking through the lines easily. Later in the game the suns visibly tired in the heat & thus allowed WCE a lot of easy sideway chips in the backline. It really was a game of keepings off so I think Bowes score is inflated/ not sold on him myself.
 
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If you've already got 5 premium defenders, that's very early in the season to complete that line. I guess it depends whether you think it makes your team too unbalanced.
Not too fussed, as mentioned I think defender premiums are the way to go.

Just on this, it was 36 degrees here in Perth on Sunday - I have no doubt WCE were concerned about the speed of the suns (WCE have an older list also) so with the heat/ reduced interchanges they were quite happy to let the suns chip the ball around in the back half as they flooded back/ played a real zone defence from about the centreline onwards. Seemed like they were very wary of the suns breaking through the lines easily. Later in the game the suns visibly tired in the heat & thus allowed WCE a lot of easy sideway chips in the backline. It really was a game of keepings off so I think Bowes score is inflated/ not sold on him myself.
Yeah the weekend score is definitely an anomaly.

But he plays high TOG and only had 2CP etc. All the other factors I think are still really good signs (role, kick-ins, rule changes, age, durability)
 
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Dangerfield has to go, no doubt. Danger > Dusty would be the way to go for most, I already have Dusty though.

If I had confidence in Dunkley, I think that's pretty straight forward too, but I am still not convinced he will be a top 6 forward like most.

The midfield premiums all have unknowns, especially with less stoppages, so I am interested in a defender premium with the style of play in 2021 seemingly benefitting rebound players.

Mills/Laird - play midfield, Laird is definitely the safer play over Bowes, but I might as well pick an actual midfielder premium if I am going to pick a midfielder imo.

Bailey Williams - Another sneaky/speculative play, but he has Daniel to contend with.

Ridley/Stewart/Short/Daniel/Houston - Already have these 5. Houston may be one I can ditch later in the year (potentially to Lloyd) if he doesn't quite reach top 8 defenders.

Lloyd - Can't afford him anyway, but hopefully drops in price at some stage.


I honestly think Bowes can fit into the top 10 defenders (hopefully higher) with Ridley/Stewart/Short/Daniel/Lloyd/Laird the likely top 6, Mills/Bowes/Ryan/Hurn the others I could see pushing in.

Bowes has increased his averages every year, 48 > 63 > 71 > 84 > ?
I really like his role in the team, his role in terms of the new rules, age, durability is ok (17/17 last year)
Do not understand the decision you have made here.
Dunkley - yes his role is uncertain though he has proven he is capable of scoring 95+ regardless of where played and this year or most years that would get me a Fwd Prem position. So guaranteed top scorer in line.

Bowes - your arguments for him are valid and I agree he is a potential breakout. However it is a breakout, at the same time you close out all flexibility in team and structure by finalising your Back 6 so early. As someone else who has 5 keepers in Def with Doc at D5 I am very conscious that my next decision is my last unless I want to burn trades.

Choices for my final def spot are Lloyd, Ryan, Maynard, Mills, May, Hunter Clark, Short - an absolute stack for me to choose from based on best value at upgrade/bye time.

Look at your forward options - not many to choose from, Dunkley, Dusty, Danger, then Heeney, Phillips?, Sidebottom, Marshall, Zorko, Gray, Butters etc - certainly does not fill me confidence I can make a good choice. of the above I would probably go in order, Sidebottom, Marshall, Heeny, Zorko, Butters, Phillips, Gray -

Speculative is Stephenson - I still think he is just as likely to stuff up off field and lose games regardless of his form. Want to see him show some maturity before he steps on my field.

Why not hold Danger and play a rookie. Assume 50 point loss for 3 games equals 1 trade. You have a prem fwd still and not spent a trade. Still have upside potential rookie replacement can score above 60 each week especially as you can loophole some weeks.

Each to his own and best of luck with your team
 
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Just say Dangerfield gets 3 weeks. I'd just about trade him on that (wouldn't do it for two) but then he would be coming back in R5 after three weeks rest to play North. At home.

If he gets "stuck" forward he could kick 6 goals and score 180 - could just about make up half the points you lost in one week alone.
 
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Very interesting trades on both sides already, actually not really. Just edited the post with the correct info.

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I found these very funny, especially the Most Traded Out, Love how no one is giving Grundy, Neale and Daniher a second chance. Love a good POD :LOL:

correct me if im wrong but The Most Traded In people must be like how i was last year?
 
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