Strategy Round 4: Trades

[lappinitup]

To be fair to Virtual Sports they have said they may grant additional trades during the season , depending on the fixture situation.

I hope this doesn't happen. I didn't use my full 5 trades on resumption, and may not use my two trades this week.

Want to have a full allotment of trades to combat different scenario's later in season.

Mind you, can imagine the whinging that will go on from all those who have used trades. So they may well just grant more extra trades to avoid that situation (we already have a significant amount of extra trades with 30 trades in a season that is 6 rounds shorter!)

Think I have just talked myself in to using the trades this week!

 

[Pieman17]

Gaah Dunkley .

Trades are changing every day at this point - Dunkley to Neale is a bit of a no-brainer right?

Personally not sure I want to spend 730k on Neale. I think Dunkley down to Bennell is what I’m looking at.

 

[AngryAnt]

Dunkley to Fyfe it is.

 

[Herbie66]

I hope this doesn't happen. I didn't use my full 5 trades on resumption, and may not use my two trades this week.

Want to have a full allotment of trades to combat different scenario's later in season.

Mind you, can imagine the whinging that will go on from all those who have used trades. So they may well just grant more extra trades to avoid that situation (we already have a significant amount of extra trades with 30 trades in a season that is 6 rounds shorter!)

Think I have just talked myself in to using the trades this week!

I might have confused myself ?

Rules still only say 30 trades for the season , yet RDT definitely added a clause in their info.

Maybe I dreamt that their was a email or post that said their could be additional trades given in case of possible bye rounds.

Their will be whinging going on no matter what happens ?

I think they should have given us unlimited trades every round hahaha

 

[Herbie66]

So what will happen if another Essendon player test result comes back positive on Saturday morning? Will that player be removed, or the whole match put on hold at the last minute again?

EDIT: It has me worried about going early on trades.

suspect they follow the processes and protocols they have in place should that arise.......oh wait

But I do wonder would it be different for players , coaches and support staff ?

ie how much contact do the water boys/girls have with the players during the week , analysis guys etc etc

some club doctors/physios only work game days

this is so confusing

 

[lappinitup]

I might have confused myself ?

Rules still only say 30 trades for the season , yet RDT definitely added a clause in their info.

Maybe I dreamt that their was a email or post that said their could be additional trades given in case of possible bye rounds.

Their will be whinging going on no matter what happens ?

I think they should have given us unlimited trades every round hahaha

Agreed. I just hate the theory they make is easier for people, who had options earlier in the year to plan.

The donut club is one club I always join earlier than intended, as I trade fairly aggressive. I feel everyone is doing that this season, so maybe keeping a few trades for later in the season could help make huge ground if we end up having double game weeks or mass injuries / quarantines.

However, can see a bunch of people saying we didn't expect cases of covid, we didn't expect double game weeks, etc and Virtual Sports having to bow to that pressure and give extra trades.

So conundrum faced now... do you hold trades back today, to have that advantage later if situation presents.

or find a trade to do now, even if minimal benefit as you are likely to get the trades back later in season if required anyway!

 

[Herbie66]

Agreed. I just hate the theory they make is easier for people, who had options earlier in the year to plan.

The donut club is one club I always join earlier than intended, as I trade fairly aggressive. I feel everyone is doing that this season, so maybe keeping a few trades for later in the season could help make huge ground if we end up having double game weeks or mass injuries / quarantines.

However, can see a bunch of people saying we didn't expect cases of covid, we didn't expect double game weeks, etc and Virtual Sports having to bow to that pressure and give extra trades.

So conundrum faced now... do you hold trades back today, to have that advantage later if situation presents.

or find a trade to do now, even if minimal benefit as you are likely to get the trades back later in season if required anyway!

All very good points.

So hard to plan for anything really with so much still unknown.

Sideways trading does seem very popular , playing rookies still have $$$ to make (fingers crossed)

Often read here that it is not your starting team , but the real game is about trading and how well you do that.

Good luck

 

[lappinitup]

All very good points.

So hard to plan for anything really with so much still unknown.

Sideways trading does seem very popular , playing rookies still have $$$ to make (fingers crossed)

Often read here that it is not your starting team , but the real game is about trading and how well you do that.

Good luck

Trading is crucial to success, and not trading for now, but planning your trades for the future.

However, it is hard to do that, not knowing if the current rules and restrictions on trades will hold firm.

Started today thinking plan based on current rules - max 30 trades for season, this won't increase only increase maybe allowance of 2 per week.

Now thinking, if carnage truly hits later in the season when majority have sideways traded away all their trades, to keep the masses interested they will grant more trades. Therefore, don't be too frugal now!

 

[Herbie66]

Trading is crucial to success, and not trading for now, but planning your trades for the future.

However, it is hard to do that, not knowing if the current rules and restrictions on trades will hold firm.

Started today thinking plan based on current rules - max 30 trades for season, this won't increase only increase maybe allowance of 2 per week.

Now thinking, if carnage truly hits later in the season when majority have sideways traded away all their trades, to keep the masses interested they will grant more trades. Therefore, don't be too frugal now!

Good advice.

I definitely will be using 1 on Sauce this round (I only traded him in so that was a dumb decision).

Unless their is a NT hub or they stop the comp for a few weeks , I can see a lot of bye rounds happening.

Wonder if Calliope is still available for the Victorian teams and base them all there.

Home games in Queensland (or NT) for Victorian teams for the next month.

Don't envy Auld at all trying to work all this out.

 

[TigerTime]

Ok so everyone is playing and now I am getting nervous as will I have the guts to go through with my plan of trading out one of the most potentially dangerous guns in the game? Grundy will almost certainly destroy big sauce on Friday night but i could be a net winner overall.

Planned trades pending teams are Grundy/Sturt to Pittonet/Petracca

I'm considering a similarly bold move. Last week I went safe and brought in Cameron and Sturt. Now there's every chance I'll be stuck with them on the bench making no money.
Ideally I would have grabbed Pit last week but he still has a good $120k + to make by the looks of it. I can't see any better cash cows around that I don't have.
Grundy to Pit allows me to up Long to Fyfe. Then if Naismith is back this week I should be able to trade he and Pit to Grundy and a rookie in a few weeks time.
Yes it looks like 4 trades to just bring in Fyfe, but it also should leave me with around $200k in the kitty for the next upgrade.
This looks the time to grab Fyfe with GC and Adelaide to come followed by several home games if the Perth hub goes forth.

I say go for it with your trades. Grundy hasn't looked right the last couple weeks, Pit has money to still make and Trac is an underpriced top 6 fwd with a DGW coming up.

 

[Blaze]

@Bomber18 and @lappinitup thanks for the advice re: Grundy i know it sounds crazy to do it and even more so with his next 2 weeks coming up!

My theory is I am really worried about where cash is coming from this year now with sturt/mcinerny going down, melb players a week behind in their cash gen, cameron/pickett looking dodgy with their JS. Pittonet now seems almost must have in the $$ he can quickly make and the main reason for my move is to just to ride some value and hope I don't lose out on points.

My thoughts are can Petracca/Pittonet scan core close to Grundy plus a King/Sturt type who comes off my field at F6. I have Gawn, Fyfe and Neale so i think my captain options are Ok without Grundy.

I still am not sure if I will do it though ....I can also get Simpkin/Petracca for Josh Kelly/Tom Doedee which is poor for cash generation but it would be great to have them both.

If this was an ordinary year I would 100% not be trading at all this week (pending teams) but I am just going for it now as the way things are going who knows if we even have games next week!

 

[Erek22]

Thinking Grundy to Pitt, Sturt to Simpkin

 

[Herbie66]

Trading is crucial to success, and not trading for now, but planning your trades for the future.

However, it is hard to do that, not knowing if the current rules and restrictions on trades will hold firm.

Started today thinking plan based on current rules - max 30 trades for season, this won't increase only increase maybe allowance of 2 per week.

Now thinking, if carnage truly hits later in the season when majority have sideways traded away all their trades, to keep the masses interested they will grant more trades. Therefore, don't be too frugal now!

I guess it is a case of plan for now or try and plan for what may or might not eventuate in the future.

At this stage I am hoping my rookies continue to play Rd 4-6 (minimum) and get close to $ 275-300k.

Then the question will be are their any viable downgrade targets available.

Fortunately for me I didn't start with Whitfield so I can now work out a plan to target him in Rd 6/7 ish.

Their could well be a number of fallen premiums in the next few weeks that are viable options.

Hard to plan to far in advance when we don't know what may or may not happen.

I can understand to a certain extent sideways trading premiums but would probably want to make $ 100k in the process.

You are right though extra trades down the track to appease the masses disadvantages those who do have a trading strategy in place.

 

[couchPOTATO]

Trading is crucial to success, and not trading for now, but planning your trades for the future.

However, it is hard to do that, not knowing if the current rules and restrictions on trades will hold firm.

Started today thinking plan based on current rules - max 30 trades for season, this won't increase only increase maybe allowance of 2 per week.

Now thinking, if carnage truly hits later in the season when majority have sideways traded away all their trades, to keep the masses interested they will grant more trades. Therefore, don't be too frugal now!

When the season was shortened I would have increased 2 trades per week to 3 to provide options in a shorter season.

Weekly trades were increased from 2-5 for Round 2 and this could easily happen again (in non finals rounds) as you suggest.

There would be a massive uproar if extra trades are granted after the season has commenced, or weekly trades are increased during finals so perhaps it would only be a last resort if for example most teams are down to 10-12 players.

 

[Ricky Bobby]

@Bomber18 and @lappinitup thanks for the advice re: Grundy i know it sounds crazy to do it and even more so with his next 2 weeks coming up!

My theory is I am really worried about where cash is coming from this year now with sturt/mcinerny going down, melb players a week behind in their cash gen, cameron/pickett looking dodgy with their JS. Pittonet now seems almost must have in the $$ he can quickly make and the main reason for my move is to just to ride some value and hope I don't lose out on points.

My thoughts are can Petracca/Pittonet scan core close to Grundy plus a King/Sturt type who comes off my field at F6. I have Gawn, Fyfe and Neale so i think my captain options are Ok without Grundy.

I still am not sure if I will do it though ....I can also get Simpkin/Petracca for Josh Kelly/Tom Doedee which is poor for cash generation but it would be great to have them both.

If this was an ordinary year I would 100% not be trading at all this week (pending teams) but I am just going for it now as the way things are going who knows if we even have games next week!

Interesting to see that you are considering trading Doedee out this week (and I can see why based on the "ins" you are targeting). I'm actually looking to upgrade a rookie to Doedee this week as part of a mini upgrade (D6). What are you thoughts on Doedee now having seen him play last week?

 

[lappinitup]

@Bomber18 and @lappinitup thanks for the advice re: Grundy i know it sounds crazy to do it and even more so with his next 2 weeks coming up!

My theory is I am really worried about where cash is coming from this year now with sturt/mcinerny going down, melb players a week behind in their cash gen, cameron/pickett looking dodgy with their JS. Pittonet now seems almost must have in the $$ he can quickly make and the main reason for my move is to just to ride some value and hope I don't lose out on points.

My thoughts are can Petracca/Pittonet scan core close to Grundy plus a King/Sturt type who comes off my field at F6. I have Gawn, Fyfe and Neale so i think my captain options are Ok without Grundy.

I still am not sure if I will do it though ....I can also get Simpkin/Petracca for Josh Kelly/Tom Doedee which is poor for cash generation but it would be great to have them both.

If this was an ordinary year I would 100% not be trading at all this week (pending teams) but I am just going for it now as the way things are going who knows if we even have games next week!

There is method to the madness - I say go for it.

It is far better to back yourself in and if it fails, sit back and go oh well.. I knew it was a risk, but a risk worth taking.. didn't come off.

Nothing worse than looking back and having what ifs that went against your intuition!

Just be prepared for a nervous two weeks! Mind you, even if Grundy scores 150.. nothing to say Pittonet can't do the same against TBC!

 

[BomberSam]

Thoughts on a Nic Nat to Pitto move? Tossed and turned over trading Grundy but now I am having a good look at Nic Nat.

 

[Lgndhen23]

thought on

noble and T.green -> doedee and bennel

noble cash gen screwed if bad game this week, but if he scores will i will miss out on a bit, however doedee also about to make some bank

 

[Ricky Bobby]

thought on

noble and T.green -> doedee and bennel

noble cash gen screwed if bad game this week, but if he scores will i will miss out on a bit, however doedee also about to make some bank

I don't mind it - I'm considering Doedee myself

 

[Bomber18]

I can’t SC without Fyfe so with Sturt now out, thinking of just doing Sturt/Jelly to Fyfe/Rivers.

Means I keep Danger but at least he is in the CBAs from what I’ve seen. Jelly missing again would make the decision easy.

Cavarra is a real survivor, think I may just hold him now haha